More Discussions for this daf
1. Keri'as Shema - biblical or rabbinic? 2. Day and then night 3. Eating in the dark
4. Temimus 5. The posuk beshochbicha uvikumecha 6. Zman Krias Shma
7. earliest time to say Shema in the evening 8. Uva Hashemesh Vetaher 9. When does a poor man eat?
10. Be'arvin 11. What to read 12. The poor man's meal
13. Being Motzi another person with Shema 14. Eating korbanot until chatzot 15. The opposite of Tahor....
16. Sitting during Shema 17. Charts 18. When does Day Begin?
19. Does the Ri agree with the Yerushalmi 20. va'Yehi Erev va'Yehi Voker Yom Echad 21. Berachos 002: Shema
22. Kri'as Shema 23. To keep a person from Aveirah 24. Night or Day?
25. mi'Sha'ah sheha'Kohanim 26. Where do the Kohanim eat Terumah? 27. "reading" ; what about Kohanim?
28. Sof Zeman Shema 29. Second Answer of the Gemara 30. Zemanim
31. Rashi's Shitah for early Ma'ariv 32. Different Shitos in Shema 33. k'Sus ha'Zeh she'Eino Nirdam
34. Sunrise and Sunset 35. Translation of the Word "mi'Chi" 36. Tzeis or Bein ha'Shemashos
37. When do the Poor Eat? 38. The Gemara's Second Answer 39. Ashkenazi Keri'as Shema at Bedtime
40. Sunrise / Sunset 41. Iy Ba'is Eima 42. Which Shi'ur is earlier?
43. Zman Shema 44. When An Ani Eats His Bread 45. Rabeinu Tam in Tosfos
46. Is there a typo in the first Tosfos? 47. Times for Keri'as Shema 48. Tosfos and Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi
49. Codewords for Time of Earliest Kerias Shema 50. Me'eimasai 51. Korei vs Kor'in
52. Tzeis ha'Kochavim 53. Latest time 54. Time for saying Shema
55. בערבין 56. מתי אוכלים העניים 57. משעה שהעני אוכל פתו
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 2

Ben Shaw asks:

Hi,

I am trying to calculate the last time for morning Shema in Manchester UK. As a guide I used the web page

http://www.myzmanim.com/day.aspx?askdefault=1&vars=39090887&q=manchester

I can calculate the Gra's time. But I get a difference when I try and calculate the Mogen Avraham's time.

Bellow are my figures. Where do you think I have gone wrong? (My times are based on 02 Feb)

Gra

Naitz: 07:53:24 - Shki'ya : 16:52:18

Sha'ot Zamani'ot: 44 mins 54 sec

Sof Zaman Shema: 10:08

Mogen Avraham

Alos: 06:05:16- Zais: 17:48:13

Sha'ot Zamani'ot: 58 mins 35 sec

My calculation Sof Zaman Shema is 09:01. The web site shows 09:14

Many thanks,

Ben Shaw, Manchester (UK)

The Kollel replies:

It seems that "MyZmanim" is using the later time for Alos ha'Shachar -- 72 minutes before the Shekiyah -- instead of the earlier one -- 90 minutes before. If you work through the calculations, you get their time of 09:14.

b'Hatzlachah,

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