1)

TOSFOS DH Ta Shma Musfei Shabbos Kodemin v'Chulei

úåñôåú ã"ä úà ùîò îåñôé ùáú ÷åãîéï ëå'

(SUMMARY: Tosfos questions the attempted proofs here and in Menachos.)

áëì äðé úà ùîò öøéê èòí îàé ÷ñ''ã îàçø ãëáø ùðé àèå ùáú ìîåñôéï àäðé ìúîéãéï ìà àäðàé

(a)

Question #1: In all of these attempted proofs, we need a reason what was the Havah Amina, after we already answered "does Shabbos help for Musafim (to be Mekadesh them), b not for Temidim?!" (Surely it helps also for Temidim!)

åöøéê ìã÷ã÷ áôø÷ äúëìú (îðçåú ãó îè.) âáé äúîéãéï àéï îòëáéï àú äîåñôéï ãàéëà ëé äê áòéà ãúãéø åî÷åãù åìà ôùéè îéðéä îéãé

(b)

Question #1: And we must explain in Menachos (49a) regarding "Temidim are not Me'akev Musafim", there is a question like here of Tadir and Mekudash, and it is not resolved at all;

ãìà îééúé äëà øàéåú ãäúí åäðäå ãäëà ìà îééúé äúí:

1.

Here we do not bring the [attempted] proofs there, and those here it does not bring there!

2)

TOSFOS DH d'Shachtinan l'Travaihu

úåñôåú ã"ä ãùçèéðï ìúøåééäå

(SUMMARY: Tosfos concludes that it was slaughtered today.)

úéîä àí ëï ìéúðé ùìîéí åùçè ÷åãí ìçèàú åàùí åäëì áéåí àçã ùìîéí ÷ãéîé ìæøå÷ åàîàé ð÷è ùì àîù

(a)

Question: If so, it should teach Shelamim, and he slaughtered it before Chatas and Asham, and everything is on one day. Shelamim has precedence for Zerikah. Why does it discuss of yesterday?

åé''ì ãùì àîù ðîé ùîà äåé ëòéï ùì àîù åäëì áéåí àçã ëãàîø áô' äúòøåáåú (ìòéì òä.) îàé çééï ëòéï çééï. áøå''ê:

(b)

Answer: Also of yesterday, perhaps it is like of yesterday (i.e. Shelamim was already slaughtered today, but Chatas was not), and everything is on one day, like it says above (75a) "what does it mean [they became mixed] while alive? [They became mixed after Shechitah in a way similar to becoming mixed while alive, i.e. the buckets of blood became mixed.] This is from R. Baruch.

91b----------------------------------------91b

3)

TOSFOS DH Amar Lei Iy Tanya Tanya

úåñôåú ã"ä àîø ìéä àé úðéà úðéà

(SUMMARY: Tosfos resolves this with Rav Papa's teaching in Menachos.)

äà ãôìéâé øáé åøáðï áñåó ëì äîðçåú áàåú îöä (îðçåú ñá.) âáé úðåôú æáçé ùìîé öáåø ãéìôéðï îæáçé ùìîé éçéã å÷àîø øá ôôà ãëåìé òìîà ãåï îéðä åîéðä

(a)

Implied question: Rebbi and Rabanan argue in Menachos (62a) about Tenufah of Zivchei Shalmei Tzibur. They learn from Zivchei Shalmei Yachid, and Rav Papa said that all agree that Dun Minah u'Minah (all laws are learned from the source)!

ääéà î÷îé ãùîòä ìáøééúà ãäëà ãîô÷éðï (äâää áâìéåï, åùéèä î÷åáöúÏ - ãîñ÷éðï) âáé îúðãá ùîï ãôìéâé áãåï îéðä åîéðä

(b)

Answer: That was before he heard the Beraisa here, that we conclude about one who brings a Nedavah of oil, that they argue about Dun Minah u'Minah.

åéù ìúîåä ãáôø÷ äîðçåú åäðñëéí (ùí ÷ã:) úðï àîø øáé èøôåï îä îöéðå áééï ùäåà áà çåáä áà áðãáä àó ùîï ùäåà áà çåáä áà ðãáä

(c)

Question: In a Mishnah in Menachos (104b), R. Tarfon says that just like we find that wine comes for Chovah and Nedavah, also oil, which comes for Chovah, comes for Nedavah;

ìîä ìé îä îöéðå ëéåï ãéìéó äëà î÷øà îãëúéá ÷øáï

1.

Why does he need a Mah Matzinu, since we learn here from a verse [that one may bring a Nedavah of oil], since it says "Korban"?

4)

TOSFOS DH ha'Morid Gacheles me'Al ha'Mizbe'ach v'Chivah Chayav

úåñôåú ã"ä äîåøéã âçìú îòì äîæáç åëéáä çééá

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why he is liable.)

åà''ú àîàé çééá äà àéúòáéãà ìä îöååúä

(a)

Question: Why is he liable? Its Mitzvah was done!

ãäà úðï ìä áôø÷ äîæáç î÷ãù (ìòéì ôå.) åëï âçìú ùô÷òä îòì âáé äîæáç ìà éçæéø

1.

Citation (above, 86a - Mishnah): Similarly, if a coal flew off the Mizbe'ach he does not return it!

åùîà éù çéìå÷ áéï äåøéãä ìô÷òä

(b)

Answer: Perhaps there is a difference between taking it down and when it flew off.

åääéà ãúðï áîñëú úîéã (ãó ìâ.) ðúôæø îîðä ë÷á âçìéí îëáãï ìàîä

(c)

Implied question: The Mishnah in Tamid (33a) teaches "about a Kav of coals scattered from [the silver Machtah when he poured it into the gold pan. He sweeps them to the Amah."

ðéçà áìàå äëé îùåí ãàéðúé÷ ìîöååúä ëãàîø áùìäé èøó á÷ìôé (éåîà îå:)

(d)

Answer: This is fine even without this (saying that he is liable only when he overtly removed it from its Mitzvah), because it was uprooted [from the Mizbe'ach] for its Mitzvah, like it says in Yoma (46b).

5)

TOSFOS DH Ha R. Yehudah Ha R. Shimon

úåñôåú ã"ä äà øáé éäåãä äà øáé ùîòåï

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that Tana'im argue about R. Akiva's opinion.)

åà''ú äà ùîòéðï ìéä ìø''ò ãñáø ìéä ëø' ùîòåï áäâåæì áúøà (á''÷ ÷éâ.) ã÷àîø øáé ùîòåï îùåí ø' ò÷éáà ìåáù àãí é' ëìàéí æä òì âá æä ëãé ìäòáéø ëå'

(a)

Question: We know that R. Akiva holds like R. Shimon in Bava Kama (113a)! R. Shimon said in the name of R. Akiva that one may wear 10 garments of Sha'atnez, one on top of another, to evade [the tax]!

åéù ìåîø ãúøé úðàé åàìéáà ãø''ò:

(b)

Answer: Two Tana'im argue about R. Akiva's opinion.

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