1)
(a)The Beraisa restricts the Din of one Matanah being Mefagel, to the Matanos on the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon, but that will not be the case with regard to the Matanos of the Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi. How many such cases are there?
(b)How does the Tana arrive at ...
1. ... forty-three Matanos of Yom ha'Kipurim (given the eight in the Kodesh Kodashim [towards the lid of the Aron] and the eight in the Heichal [towards the Paroches] of both the Par and the Sa'ir)?
2. ... eleven Matanos of the Par Kohen Mashi'ach and the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur?
(c)When Rebbi Meir says 'Pigeil bein ba'Rishonah, bein bi'Sheniyah, bein bi'Shelishis, Pigul ve'Chayavin alav Kareis', what does he mean by bein ba'Rishonah, bein bi'Sheniyah, bein bi'Shelishis'?
(d)What do the Chachamim say?
1)
(a)The Beraisa restricts the Din of one Matanah being Mefagel, to the Matanos on the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon, but that will not be the case with regard to the Matanos of the Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi. There are three such cases - the Par ve'Sa'ir shel Yom ha'Kipurim, the Par shel Kohen Mashi'ach and the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur.
(b)The Tana arrives at ...
1. ... forty-three Matanos of Yom ha'Kipurim (given the eight in the Kodesh Kodashim [towards the lid of the Aron] and the eight in the Heichal [towards the Paroches] of both the Par and the Sa'ir [totaling thirty-two) - by adding the four Matanos of the combined bloods that he placed on the four K'ranos of the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav, and the seven that he sprinkled on top of it.
2. ... eleven Matanos of the Par Kohen Mashi'ach and the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur - by adding the seven that he sprinkled towards the Paroches and the four that he placed on the four corners of the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav.
(c)When Rebbi Meir says 'Pigeil bein ba'Rishonah, bein bi'Sheniyah, bein bi'Shelishis, Pigul ve'Chayavin alav Kareis', he means that - at whichever stage the Kohen is Mefagel (the Matanos in the Kodesh Kodashim, in the Heichal towards the Paroches, or on the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav), it is considered Pigul, and subject to Kareis.
(d)The Chachamim hold that - there is no Kareis unless he is Mefagel at every stage of the Matir.
2)
(a)What problem does this Beraisa create with Resh Lakish on the previous Amud?
(b)Rav Yitzchak bar Avin establishes that the Kohen was Mefagel by the Shechitah. What does that mean? What is the case?
(c)How does this answer the Kashya on Resh Lakish?
(d)What problem does this now create with the Rabbanan?
2)
(a)The problem this Beraisa creates with Resh Lakish on the previous Amud (who holds Ein Mefalin be'Chatzi Matir) - stems from the statement bein bi'Sheniyah ... , implying that it is Pigul even though the Kohen was not Mefagel by the first set of Matanos (in which case the Tana holds Mefaglin be'Chatzi Matir).
(b)Rav Yitzchak bar Avin establishes that the Kohen was Mefagel by the Shechitah - where the blood spilled after the termination of the Matanos in the Kodesh Kodashim and where Rebbi Elazar holds that they bring another Par, to continue with the Avodah from the point where they left off. And it was during the Shechitah of the second animal that the Kohen was Mefagel.
(c)In such a case - even Resh Lakish will agree that it is Pigul because, the Avodah of that animal is independent of that off the previous one.
(d)The problem now is - on what grounds the Rabbanan then argue with Rebbi Meir. What reason is there for it not to be Pigul?
3)
(a)Rava establishes the author of the Beraisa as Rebbi Elazar. According to the Rabbanan in a Mishnah in the last Perek, one is Chayav for bringing a k'Zayis ba'Chutz of the Kometz, Levonah, Ketores, Minchas Kohanim, Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach or Minchas Nesachim. What does Rebbi Elazar say? Why is that?
(b)What will Rebbi Elazar hold in a case where he brought the bulk of the Korban bi'Fenim, and the last k'Zayis ba'Chutz?
(c)How does that explain the Chachamim of Rebbi Meir?
(d)We query this from Rava however, who maintains that even Rebbi Elazar will agree that if the Kohen sprinkles one of the above three bloods ba'Chutz, he will be Chayav. Why is that?
3)
(a)Rava establishes the author of the Beraisa as Rebbi Elazar. According to the Rabbanan in a Mishnah in the last Perek, one is Chayav for bringing a k'Zayis ba'Chutz of the Kometz, Levonah, Ketores, Minchas Kohanim, Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach or Minchas Nesachim. Rebbi Elazar rules that - he is Patur unless he brings whatever there is (and not just a k'Zayis).
(b)In a case where he brought the bulk of the Korban bi'Fenim, and the last k'Zayis ba'Chutz - Rebbi Elazar will concede that he is Chayav (because he also holds Haktaras k'Zayis havi Haktarah, and he only holds Patur in the Mishnah, because he did not burn all that there was to be burned.
(c)Similarly, the Chachamim of Rebbi Meir (alias Rebbi Elazar) hold Ein bo Kareis ad she'Yefagel be'Chol ha'Matir, because if burning half the Matir ba'Chutz is not considered Avodas Chutz, how much more so will it not be considered an Avodah concerning Pigul bi'Fenim.
(d)We query this from Rava however, who maintains that even Rebbi Elazar will agree that if the Kohen sprinkles one of the above three bloods ba'Chutz he will be Chayav - because it is effective bi'Fenim (even if the blood spilt in the middle of one of the sets of Matanos, since Rebbi Elazar holds that he Shechts a second Par and carries on from where he left off, even if it spilt in the middle of one of the Matanos [though it is not why clear why we need to mention this here]).
4)
(a)Rava therefore (retracts from Rav Yitzchak's answer [Kgon she'Pigeil bi'Shechitah] and) tries to establish Rebbi Meir (in the Beraisa currently under discussion) where the Kohen had a Machsheves Pigul by the first and third sets of Damim, but not by the second. What is then the Chidush? Why might we have otherwise thought?
(b)In which point do the Chachamim then argue with Rebbi Meir?
(c)Rav Ashi refutes Rava's explanation however, on the grounds that Midi Shasak Katani? What does he mean by that?
4)
(a)Rava therefore (retracts from Rav Yitzchak's answer [Kgon she'Pigeil bi'Shechitah] and) tries to establish Rebbi Meir (in the Beraisa currently under discussion) where the Kohen had a Machsheves Pigul by the first and third sets of Damim, but not by the second, in which case we might have thought that - the fact that the Kohen had a Machsheves Pigul by the third set is proof that he did not follow his first Machshavah (when performing the second set of Damim).
(b)And the Chachamim argue with Rebbi Meir in that - they disagree with the S'vara of Kol ha'Oseh, al Da'as Rishonah hu Oseh.
(c)Rav Ashi refutes Rava's explanation however, on the grounds that Midi Shasak Katani - the Tana did not say that he performed the second set Stam.
5)
(a)Rav Ashi therefore tries to establish Rebbi Meir where he was Mefagel by the first three sets of Matnos Damim, but not by the fourth (see Tosfos DH 'K'gon'). What is the fourth set of Damim?
(b)What is then the Chidush?
(c)How do we refute Rav Ashi's explanation?
(d)What do we answer?
5)
(a)Rav Ashi therefore tries to establish Rebbi Meir where he was Mefagel by all three sets of Matnos Damim, but not by the fourth (see Tosfos DH 'K'gon') - the sprinkling on top of the Mizbe'ach ha'Ketores).
(b)And the Chidush is that - Rebbi Meir holds al Da'as Rishonah hu Oseh (by the fourth Matanah), in spite of the fact that he did have a Machsheves Pigul by the second and third set of Matanos.
(c)We refute Rav Ashi's explanation however, on the grounds that - in that case, the Tana ought to have said u'vi'Sheniyah u'vi'Shelishis; bein bi'Sheniyah, bein bi'Shelishis implies either by one or by the other.
(d)And we remain with a Kashya on Resh Lakish.
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6)
(a)What is the S'vara behind the ruling that Pigul cannot take effect ad she'Yikarvu Kol Matirav?
(b)Based on this principle, what is the problem now that we ascribe Rebbi Meir's ruling to Mefaglin be'Chatzi Matir?
(c)Why is this not a problem according to ...
1. ... those who establish the Beraisa by Pigeil bi'Shechitah?
2. ... the Rabbanan who require a Machsheves Pigul by all the parts of the Zerikah?
6)
(a)The reason that Pigul cannot take effect ad she'Yikarvu Kol Matirav is - because just as the Korban does not atone until its final Avodah has been completed, so too, does its P'sul not take effect until its final Avodah has been completed.
(b)Based on this principle, the problem is now that we ascribe Rebbi Meir's ruling to Mefaglin be'Chatzi Matir, - seeing as the Kohen Gadol sprinkled in the Kodesh Kodshim with a Machsheves Pigul, when he then sprinkled in the Heichal it was as if he sprinkled water and it is not considered Zerikah, so why did Rebbi Meir say that it is fixed for Pigul?
(c)This is not a problem according to ...
1. ... those who establish the Beraisa by Pigeil bi'Shechitah (or according to the Rabbanan who require a Machsheves Pigul by all parts of the Zerikah) - because in those cases, there is no other way of becoming Pigul (and that is the way the Torah renders the Mefagel Chayav, and the same applies to ...
2. ... the Rabbanan who require a Machsheves Pigul by all the parts of the Zerikah.
7)
(a)To answer the Kashya, Rabah establishes the case by four Parim or four Se'irim. What does he mean by that?
(b)How do we now explain Rebbi Meir Pigeil bein ba'Rishonah, bein bi'Sheniyah ... Pigul ve'Chayavin alav Kareis?
(c)But is this not the opinion of Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon, who hold that if the blood spills, the Kohen brings another Par (or Sa'ir) and continues where he left off?
7)
(a)To answer the Kashya, Rabah establishes the case by four Parim or four Se'irim, by which he means that - each time after he concluded the Matanos, the blood spilt, first in the Kodesh Kodashim, then in the Heichal, then on the K'ranos, and then on the roof of the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav, and each time, he Shechted another bull (or goat), and continued with the next set of Matanos.
(b)And when Rebbi Meir now says Pigeil bein ba'Rishonah, bein bi'Sheniyah ... Pigul ve'Chayavin alav Kareis, he means that - if he was Mefagel by all the Matanos in any one of the locations, the Korban is Pigul, even if he performed all the others be'Kashrus.
(c)In fact - even the Rabbanan of Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon agree that the Kohen continues the new Matanos from where he left off. They argue with Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon only in a case where the blood spilt in the middle of a set of Matanos.
8)
(a)Rava (or Abaye) establishes the Beraisa even by one Par and one Sa'ir, because le'Pigulo Meratzeh. What does he mean?
(b)The current Beraisa refers to forty-three Matanos. How do we reconcile this with the Beraisa which refers to ...
1. ... forty-seven Matanos?
2. ... forty-eight Matanos?
8)
(a)Rava (or Abaye) establishes the Beraisa even by one Par and one Sa'ir, because le'Pigulo Meratzeh - the second half of the Zerikah that is performed be'Kashrus concludes the Pigul just like the Zerikah be'Kashrus does if the Shochet is Mefagel the Korban by the Shechitah.
(b)The current Beraisa refers to forty-three Matanos. The Beraisa which refers to ...
1. ... forty-seven - holds that the Kohen Gadol sprinkles the blood of the Par and the Sa'ir on the roof of the Mizbe'ach ha'Zahav separately, whereas our Beraisa maintains that they mixed the two bloods before sprinkling it.
2. ... forty-eight - counts the pouring of the Shirayim of the blood on to the Y'sod of the Mizbe'ach ha'Olah (which he considers crucial) as a Matanah. The other two Tana'im do not consider it crucial to the Avodah.
9)
(a)What does the Tana of another Beraisa mean when he says 'ba'Meh Devarim Amurim, bi'Kemitzah, be'Matan K'li u've'Hiluch'?
(b)Which Avodah is the Levonah subject to?
(c)The Chachamim go on to say Nasan es ha'Kometz be'Machshavah ve'es ha'Levonah bi'Shesikah, O es ha'Kometz bi'Shesikah ve'es ha'Levonah be Machshavah, Ein Chayavin alav Kareis'. Why is that?
(d)What does Rebbi Meir say? Why is this a Kashya on Resh Lakish?
9)
(a)When the Tana of another Beraisa states 'ba'Meh Devarim Amurim, bi'Kemitzah, be'Matan K'li u've'Hiluch', he means that - it is specifically by these three Avodos that Pigul applies to the Kometz only and not to the Levonah ...
(b)... though it is subject to - Haktarah.
(c)The Chachamim go on to say Nasan es ha'Kometz be'Machshavah ve'es ha'Levonah bi'Shesikah, O es ha'Kometz bi'Shesikah ve'es ha'Levonah be'Machshavah, Ein Chayavin alav Kareis - because they hold Ein Mefaglin be'Chatzi Matir.
(d)Rebbi Meir holds Pigul ve'Chayavin alav Kareis, in spite of the fact that in the latter case, the Shesikah preceded the Machsheves Pigul, a Kashya on Resh Lakish (since Rebbi Meir's clearly holds Mefaglin be'Chatzi Matir).
10)
(a)How do we try to amend the Lashon ... ve'es ha'Levonah be'Machshavah, to reconcile the Beraisa with Resh Lakish?
(b)What objection do we raise to this suggestion?
(c)How does another Beraisa word the same ruling which renders our amendment unacceptable?
10)
(a)To reconcile the Beraisa with Resh Lakish, we try to amend the Lashon ... ve'es ha'Levonah be'Machshavah - to ... u'Kevar Nasan es ha'Levonah be'Machshavah.
(b)We object to this suggestion however - because it would merely be a repetition of the first case (since, if it is a matter of following the first Lashon, what difference will it make which of the two he did first?).
(c)In any case, another Beraisa words the same ruling ... ve'Achar-Kach Levonah be'Machshavah, rendering our amendment unacceptable.