MORE LAWS OF A BORDER (Yerushalmi Kilayim Perek 3 Halachah 1 Daf 14b)
øáé ðñà ùàì òùä ôéàä áàîöò æøò áâåîñéï îùëå áëîä
Question #2 (R. Nasa): If he made a Pe'ah (by inserting four canes into the four corners of a 6 by 6 Tefach area in the middle of a field and tying reeds between them on the top thereby sectioning off the area - see later Menachos 58), if he then planted a different species in that section, how long must that species extend?
îï îä ãàîø øáé éöç÷ åøáé àéîé úéôúø ùäâåáìéï îîòèéï ùùä.
Answer: From that which R. Yitzchak and R. Imi explained (the opinion of the first Tana in our Mishnah (Menachos 45) who permitted one species to be planted in the middle (of the 6 by 6 bordered patch) - the species planted on the border reduce the area (that may be planted and thereby allow only one species to be planted)...
äãà àîøä àôéìå (ôøç)[ôøà] îëàï.
This shows that even less than the 6 by 6 area may be planted.
òã äéëï.
Question: How much may one reduce the 6 by 6 area?
ðéùîòéðä îï äãà âåîîéåú ùäï òîå÷åú èôç æåøòéï ìúåëä ùìùä æéøòåðéï àçã îéëï åàçã îéëï åàçã áàîöò. äãà àîøä òã èôç.
Answer (Tosefta): Pits that are a Tefach deep may have three types of seeds planted there - one on either edge of the pit and one in the middle. This shows that the minimum size of the planting area is a Tefach.
øáé áà áø ëäðà ùîòåï áø ðøùéä áùí øáé ùîòåï áï ì÷éù áðåèòéí ìçåøáä ùðå.
(R. Ba bar Kahana/ Shimon bar Narshayah citing R. Shimon ben Lakish): (Disagreeing with R. Tanchum of Butzra, who said earlier (Menachos 46(g)) that the Mishnah permitted planting on the border even when the bed is planted adjacent to other beds.) It is permitted only if the area around it is empty.
[ãó ëæ òîåã á (òåæ åäãø)] àîø øáé æòéøà ëì èôç åèôç ùì âåáì òùå àåúå î÷åí áôðé òöîå.
(R. Zeira): Each Tefach of a border (that is a Tefach high) is considered like a separate place.
åéäéå òùøéí åçîùä ùùä òì ëì âåáì åâåáì åàçã áàîöò. åëï äåà
Question #1: Why did the Mishnah allow 13 species when there's a border - it should be 25 - since there can be 6 on each border and one in the middle?
äúéá øáé áåï áø çééà áùí øáé ùîåàì áø øá éöç÷ åäúðéðï úìí åàîú äîéí ùäï [ãó èå òîåã à] òîå÷éï èôç æåøòéï ìúåëï ùìùä æéøòåðéï àçã îéëï åàçã îéëï åàçã áàîö'. åðúðé çîùä ùðéí îéëï åùðéí îéëï åàçã áàîöò
Question #2 (R. Bun bar Chiya citing R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): (The next Mishnah teaches) 'If a furrow or a stream were a Tefach deep, one may plant three types of seeds in them - one on each side and one in the middle.' Why didn't the Mishnah allow five - two on each side and one in the middle?
ìéú éëéì öã ùëàï åöã ùëàï çåáù àú äàîöòé.
Answer: That may not be done, since the two on each side would surround the middle species.
øáé áåï áø çééà áùí øáé ùîåàì áø øá éöç÷ áòé âåáì îäå ùéöéì àú äéø÷ îéã îå÷ùä.
Question (R. Bun bar Chiya citing R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): Could a border save a vegetable from (being Kilayim with) a Muksha plant (large-leaved melon-type plants such as gourds and pumkpins)?
îä àí æøòéí áæøòéí ùäï ðéöåìéï áòùø àîåú åîçöä àéï äâåáì îöéì îéãí. [ãó ëç òîåã à (òåæ åäãø)] îå÷ùä ùäåà ðéöåì áùúéí òùøä ìà ëì ùëï.
Answer: If concerning seeds with seeds, which are saved if they are separated by 10 1/2 Amos, but still a border doesn't save them; concerning Muksha plants which are only saved with a separation of 12 Amos, certainly a border will not save them.
îå÷ùä òöîå îäå ùéöéì áøàù äâåáì.
Question: Can a Muksha plant save itself from a prohibition if it's planted on top of a border?
îä àí æøòéí áæøòéí ùäï ðéöåìéï áòùø àîåú åîçöä àéðï ðéöåìéï áøàù äâåáì. îå÷ùä ùäåà ðéöåì áùîåðä àîåú ìà ëì ùëï.
Answer: If concerning seeds with seeds, which are saved if separated by 10 1/2 Amos, but planting on top of a border still doesn't save them; then concerning a Muksha plant, which is only saved with 8 Amos, certainly a border will not save them.
à"ø éåãï àáåé ãø' îúìéà åäï äå' ëì ùëï.
Rebuttal (R. Yudan, father of R. Matalya): Is this a good Kal Vechomer? (8 Amos is less than 10 1/2 Amos, so Muksha is actually more lenient in that way.)
àìà äëï äåà îä àí æøòéí áæøòéí ùðéöåìéï á(ùðéí )òùø àîä åîçöä àéðï ðéöåìéï áøàù äâåáì. îå÷ùä ùäåà ðéöåì áùúéí òùøä ìà ëì ùëï:
Rather, it should be worded like this - if concerning seeds with seeds, which are saved if separated by 10 1/2 Amos, but planting on top of a border still doesn't save them; then concerning a Muksha plant, that is saved if separated by 12 Amos, certainly a border will not save them.