1)

(a)If two lambs were Shechted on four loaves, the Beraisa rules that one takes two of the loaves and waves them together with the lambs. What happens to the remaining two loaves?

(b)What prompted Rav Chisda to comment on this that the author cannot be Rebbi? What problem would there be, according to Rebbi, in redeeming the loaves ...

1. ... outside the Azarah?

2. ... inside the Azarah?

(c)Why does this problem not exist, according to Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon?

1)

(a)If two lambs were Shechted on four loaves, the Beraisa rules that one takes two of the loaves and waves them together with the lambs. The remaining two loaves - can be eaten as Chulin, once they have been redeemed.

(b)Rav Chisda commented on this that the author cannot be Rebbi, because according to Rebbi, since two of the loaves become Kadosh Kedushas ha'Guf, there is a problem where to redeem them, because, if one redeems them ...

1. ... outside the Azarah - the two un-redeemed loaves will be Pasul be'Yotzei (due to the Pasuk in Emor "Lifnei Hash-m"). Consequently, seeing as we do not know which loaves are which, none of them may be taken out of the Azarah.

2. ... inside the Azarah - the two redeemed loaves may not be taken inside the Azarah, since this constitutes Chulin la'Azarah.

(c)This problem does not exist according to Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon who holds that - until the Kohen performs the Zerikah, the loaves are only Kedushas Damim, and can therefore be taken outside the Azarah.

2)

(a)Rav Chisda solves the problem. In his opinion, the author can be Rebbi, and the two loaves must be redeemed in the Azarah. How does he answer the Kashya of Chulin ba'Azarah?

(b)What did Rav Ashi answer, when Ravina queried this from the Beraisa Ein Podin Ela ba'Chutz?

(c)If one Shechts a Todah on eighty loaves (instead of forty) Chizkiyah rules that forty of them are Kadosh. What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(d)What is now the problem from the current Beraisa on Rebbi Yochanan?

2)

(a)Rav Chisda solves the problem. In his opinion, the author can be Rebbi, and the two loaves must be redeemed in the Azarah. And he answers the Kashya of Chulin ba'Azarah' by pointing out that - from the time that they were redeemed and became Chulin, no-one actually brought them into the Azarah (since they were there already).

(b)When Ravina queried this from the Beraisa Ein Podin Ela ba'Chutz, Rav Ashi answered that - that Beraisa for sure, goes according to Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon.

(c)If one Shechted a Todah on eighty loaves (instead of forty) Chizkiyah rules that forty of them are Kadosh. Rebbi Yochanan holds that - they all eighty remain Chulin.

(d)The problem from the current Beraisa on Rebbi Yochanan is that - the Tana clearly holds that is such a case, the number of loaves that is fit to become Kadosh become Kadosh.

3)

(a)To answer the Kashya, we cite Rebbi Zeira, who qualifies the Machlokes between Chizkiyah and Rebbi Yochanan. What does Rebbi Zeira say? In which case will even Rebbi Yochanan concede that the forty loaves are Kadosh?

(b)How will we then establish the case of Sh'nei Kevasim al Arba Chalos in order to accommodate Rebbi Yochanan?

3)

(a)To answer the Kashya, we cite Rebbi Zeira, who qualifies the Machlokes between Chizkiyah and Rebbi Yochanan. In his opinion, Rebbi Yochanan will concede that the forty loaves are Kadosh - if the owner declares that forty out of the eighty are Kadosh.

(b)Similarly, in order to accommodate Rebbi Yochanan, we will establish the case of Sh'nei Kevasim al Arba Chalos - where the owner specifically declares that two out of the four loaves should be Kadosh.

4)

(a)Rebbi Chanina Tirsa cited a Beraisa which rules that if four lambs were Shechted on two loaves, the Kohanim first take two of the lambs and sprinkle their blood she'Lo li'Sheman. What do they do next?

(b)Why do they do that? Why can they not first Shecht two lambs li'Sheman (or all four lambs li'Sheman)?

(c)What objection did Rebbi Yochanan raise to that?

(d)This objection is based on a Mishnah in Zevachim. What do the Chachamim say there, in a case where the limbs of a Chatas which became mixed up with limbs of an Olah?

4)

(a)Rebbi Chanina Tirsa cited a Beraisa which rules that if four lambs were Shechted on two loaves, the Kohanim first take two of the lambs and sprinkle their blood she'Lo li'Sheman - then they take the two remaining lambs and sprinkle their blood li'Sheman.

(b)They cannot first Shecht the two lambs li'Sheman (or all four lambs li'Sheman) - because then they will lose the last two lambs completely (which are rejected after the Shechitah, as we explained earlier).

(c)Rebbi Yochanan objected to that however - since we cannot permit someone to sin (by performing an Avodah sh'Lo li'Shemah) in order to gain.

(d)This objection is based on a Mishnah in Zevachim. The Chachamim rule there, in a case where the limbs of a Chatas which became mixed up with limbs of an Olah that - all the limbs must be taken to the Beis ha'Sereifah and burned.

5)

(a)What does Rebbi Yochanan try to prove from the Mishnah in Zevachim? What might we otherwise have said?

(b)How do we refute Rebbi Yochanan's proof? What distinction can we make between the Mishnah in Zevachim and the case of the Beraisa (which we refer to as Chatas)?

5)

(a)Rebbi Yochanan tries to prove from the Mishnah in Zevachim - from the fact that we do not permit the Kohanim to bring them all on the Mizbe'ach, in order not to lose the Olah, that we do not instruct a person to sin in order to gain.

(b)We refute Rebbi Yochanan's proof however - by confining the Mishnah in Zevachim to where one sins with regard to one thing (the Chatas), in order to gain something else (the Olah), whereas in the case of the Beraisa, the Tana is talking about sinning with regard to Kivsei Atzeres in order to gain Kivsei Atzeres.

6)

(a)If Kivsei Atzeres are Shechted she'Lo li'Sheman, or before or after the due time, the Beraisa permits the blood to be sprinkled and the Basar to be eaten. What does the Tana say there ...

1. ... with regard to the first case where Shavu'os falls on Shabbos, and, after the Kevasim have been Shechted she'Lo li'Sheman, the Kohen sprinkles the blood?

2. ... about doing so Lechatchilah?

(b)Why do we not then permit him to sin (seeing as both the sin and the gain concern Kivsei Atzeres)?

6)

(a)If Kivsei Atzeres are Shechted she'Lo li'Sheman, or before or after the due time, the Beraisa permits the blood to be sprinkled and the Basar to be eaten. The Tana rules there that ...

1. ... in the first case, where Shavu'os falls on Shabbos, and, after the Kevasim have been Shechted she'Lo li'Sheman, the Kohen sprinkles the blood - the Korban is Kasher, and the Emurin are burned on Motza'ei Shabbos.

2. ... one is not permitted to sprinkle the blood on Shabbos Lechatchilah.

(b)We do not permit him to sin (in spite of the fact that both the sin and the gain concern Kivsei Atzeres) - because we only permit sinning on Shabbos in order to gain on Shabbos, but not in order to gain on a weekday.

7)

(a)The Mishnah in T'rumos discusses a case where a barrel of Terumah wine breaks in the upper wine-press (the tub) causing the wine to drip into the pit below. What is the problem with that?

(b)Both Rebbi Eliezer and Rebbi Yehoshua agree that if it is possible to save even one Revi'is of Terumah wine, then one should. What is the Chidush?

(c)If it is not possible to save a Revi'is, then according to Rebbi Eliezer, he must rather allow the Tahor wine to drip into the pit than catch it in Tamei vessels. What does Rebbi Yehoshua say?

(d)Why is this not a proof that one may even sin in one thing (to be Metamei the Terumah) in order to save something else (the Chulin)?

7)

(a)The Mishnah in T'rumos discusses the case where a barrel of Terumah wine breaks in the upper wine-press (the tub) causing the wine to drip into the pit below. The problem with this is that - the Tana is speaking about a case where there is Tamei Chulin in the pit (and once the Terumah wine becomes Tamei, there is nothing that one can do about it).

(b)Both Rebbi Eliezer and Rebbi Yehoshua agree that if it is possible to save even one Revi'is of Terumah wine, then one should - despite the fact that whilst he goes to search for vessels to save it, some of the Terumah wine will inevitably fall into the pit, rendering all the wine Asur (something which Rebbi Yehoshua is concerned about, as we will now see).

(c)If it is not possible to save a Revi'is, then according to Rebbi Eliezer, he must rather allow the Tahor wine to drip into the pit than catch it in Tamei vessels; whereas Rebbi Yehoshua holds that - he may catch it in Tamei vessels (in order to save the Chulin wine)

(d)This is not a proof that one may even sin in one thing (to be Metamei the Terumah) in order to save something else (the Chulin) - because this case is different, seeing as the Terumah wine is going to become Tamei anyway.

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8)

(a)When Rav Yitzchak arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he cited a Beraisa in connection with Kivsei Atzeres that one Shechted she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan. What does the Beraisa say?

(b)By she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan, the Tana means she'Lo li'Sheman. How do we know that he does not mean that they were already in their second year (whereas Kevasim are supposed to be in their first)?

(c)Why do these Kevasim require Ibur Tzurah more than other Pasul animals that require burning?

(d)What did Rav Nachman extrapolated from Rav Yitzchak's use of the term Pesulin? What must he therefore consider the source for the Beraisa's ruling?

8)

(a)When Rav Yitzchak arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he cited a Beraisa which rules that Kivsei Atzeres that one Shechted she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan - are Pasul, and that after Ibur Tzurah, they must be burned.

(b)By she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan, the Tana means she'Lo li'Sheman. We know that he does not mean that they were already in their second year (whereas Kevasim are supposed to be in their first) - because then, he ought to have said Kivsei Atzeres (not she'Shachtan, but) she'Hevi'an she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan.

(c)These Kevasim require Ibur Tzurah more than other Pasul animals that require burning - because the P'sul is not a P'sul she'be'Gufo (like Pigul, Nosar and Tamei). If it were, it would be burned immediately.

(d)Rav Nachman extrapolated from Rav Yitzchak's use of the term Pesulin that - the source for the Beraisa's ruling must be Chata'os (which, unlike most other Korbanos) are Pasul she'Lo li'Sheman, as we learned in Zevachim).

9)

(a)According to the way we interpreted she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan (she'Lo li'Sheman), Rav Yitzchak derives his ruling from the Pasuk in Emor "Va'asisem Se'ir Izim Echad le'Chatas u'Shenei Chevasim b'nei Shanah le'Zevach Shelamim". From where would he have derived it, had he meant lambs in their second year?

(b)What did Tana de'bei Levi say about Kivsei Atzeres that one Shechts she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan?

(c)And what did Rav Nachman comment about that? What must be Tana de'Bei Levi's source regarding Shalmei Chovah?

9)

(a)According to the way we interpreted she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan (she'Lo li'Sheman), Rav Yitzchak derives his ruling from the Pasuk in Emor "Va'asisem Se'ir Izim Echad le'Chatas u'Shenei Chevasim b'nei Shanah le'Zevach Shelamim". Had he meant lambs in their second year - he would have derived it from the Mishnah in Temurah, which teaches us that a Chatas after its time has expired, is one of the five Chata'os that must die.

(b)Tana de'bei Levi rules that Kivsei Atzeres that one Shechts she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan - are Kasher ...

(c)... on which Rav Nachman commented - that Tana de'bei Levi must learn Shalmei Chovah from Shalmei Nedavah.

10)

(a)The source for Shalmei Nedavah is another Beraisa learned by Levi. What does Tani Levi say about (Sha'ar) Shalmei Nazir she'Shachtan she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan? What do they not require?

(b)Why is that?

(c)On what grounds does Tana de'bei Levi disagree with Rav Yitzchak's Beraisa (which learns Shalmei Chovah from the Hekesh to Chatas)?

10)

(a)The source for Shalmei Nedavah is another Beraisa learned by Levi. Tani Levi rules that (Sha'ar) Shalmei Nazir she'Shachtan she'Lo ke'Mitzvasan - can be eaten for a day and a night (like a Shalmei Nazir, even though a regular Shelamim can be eaten for two days), and that they require neither loaves nor the Zero'a Besheilah (the cooked foreleg) to be given to the Kohen ...

(b)... because they neither permit the Nazir to drink wine, nor do they render the owner Yotzei his obligation.

(c)Tana de'bei Levi disagrees with Rav Yitzchak's Beraisa (which learns Shalmei Chovah from the Hekesh to Chatas) - because he prefers to learn Shalmei Chovah from Shalmei R'shus.

11)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about ...

1. ... an Asham (of a Nazir Tamei and of a Metzora), which requires a lamb (in its first year), but are brought as a ram (in its second), or vice-versa (such as an Asham Gezeilos or Me'ilos)?

2. ... an Olas Nazir, Yoledes or Metzora that are meant to be lambs, but are brought as rams?

(b)What is the basis for ...

1. ... the former ruling (regarding Asham)?

2. ... the latter ruling (regarding Olah)?

(c)What is the one Halachah regarding Asham that the Tana precludes from the Limud from Chatas?

(d)How does this Beraisa pose a Kashya on Rav Yitzchak?

(e)How will Rav Yitzchak refute the Kashya?

11)

(a)The Beraisa rules that ...

1. ... an Asham (of a Nazir Tamei and of a Metzora), which requires a lamb (in its first year), but are brought as a ram (in its second), or vice-versa (such as an Asham Gezeilos or Me'ilos) - are Pasul, and require Ibur Tzurah and Sereifah.

2. ... an Olas Nazir, Yoledes or Metzora that are meant to be lambs, but are brought as rams - are Kasher.

(b)The basis for ...

1. ... the former ruling (regarding Asham) is - Chatas, from which we learn Asham (in most regards).

2. ... the latter ruling (regarding Olah) is - Olas Nedavah (where someone who brings bigger or smaller animal than he promised to bring, is Yotzei his obligation).

(c)The one Halachah regarding Asham that the Tana precludes from the Limud from Chatas is - an Asham she'Lo li'Shemo, which, unlike Chatas, is Kasher.

(d)This Beraisa poses a Kashya on Rav Yitzchak - inasmuch as it learns Olas Chovah from Olas Nedavah, even though one has the alternative of learning it from Chatas (together with which Olas Nazir and Metzora are written).

(e)Rav Yitzchak will refute the Kashya - by establishing the author of the Beraisa as Tana de'bei Levi (with whose version he disagrees).

12)

(a)In another Beraisa cited by Levi, which discusses Asham Nazir and Asham Metzora, what does the Tana rule in a case when they are Shechted ...

1. ... she'Lo li'Sheman?

2. ... in their second year?

(b)The Tana incorporates in the latter ruling an Asham Nazir or Metzora that is Shechted Mechusar Z'man be'Ba'alim. What does that mean?

(c)What problem does this Beraisa create for Levi, who learns Chovah from Nedavah (see Shitah Mekubetzes 3)?

(d)And we answer that it is one thing to learn Shelamim from Shelamim, but quite another to learn Asham from Shelamim. What does Rav Shimi bar Ashi say to explain why we do not at least learn Asham Nazir and Metzora from Asham Gezeilos and Me'ilos, which are brought Lechatchilah in their second year?

12)

(a)In another Beraisa cited by Levi, which discusses Asham Nazir and Asham Metzora, the Tana rules that in a case when they are Shechted ...

1. ... she'Lo li'Sheman - they are Kasher but the owner has not fulfilled his obligation.

2. ... in their second year - they are Pasul.

(b)The Tana incorporates in the latter ruling, an Asham Nazir or Metzora that is Shechted Mechusar Z'man be'Ba'alim - meaning before the seven days of counting required by a Nazir Tamei (who is bringing the Asham).

(c)The problem this Beraisa creates for Levi, who learns Chovah from Nedavah (see Shitah Mekubetzes 3) is - why we do not then learn Asham from Shelamim (with regard to an Asham in its second year) rather than from Chatas.

(d)And we answer that it is one thing to learn Shelamim from Shelamim, but quite another to learn Asham from Shelamim. To explain why we do not at least learn Asham Nazir Asham Metzora from Asham Gezeilos and Me'ilos which are brought Lechatchilah in their second year, Rav Shimi bar Ashi says that - we only learn something which is Pasul (she'Lo li'Shemo) from something which is Pasul; but not from something which is Kasher.

13)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about Kodshim that, after being taken outside the Azarah following the Shechitah, are brought on the Mizbe'ach?

(b)What source does the Tana give for this?

(c)But did we not just say that we decline to learn something which is Pasul from something which is Kasher?

(d)Then what is the real source?

13)

(a)If Kodshim are taken outside the Azarah following the Shechitah, and then brought on the Mizbe'ach, the Beraisa rules - Lo Yerdu.

(b)The source the Tana gives for this - is a Korban that is brought on a Bamah which is always considered Yotze (since a Bamah has no curtains), yet it is Kasher.

(c)Bearing in mind that we decline to learn something that is Pasul from something that is Kasher (as we just explained) - we have to admit that Bamah is not the real source, but ...

(d)... the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos Toras ha'Olah", from which we learn, regarding all Olos (that are Pesulan ba'Kodesh) Im Alu Lo Yerdu.

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