1)

(a)Ravina asked Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak what the Din will be (vis-a-vis a Korban Oleh ve'Yored), according to Rebbi Yirmiyah and Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, in the case of a king who is stricken with Tzara'as. What happens in general to a king who is stricken with Tzara'as?

(b)If Miftar Patur means that he is only Patur as long as he is king, but becomes Chayav once his status changes. What does 'Midcha Dachi' then mean?

(c)What did Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak mean when he replied Dilach O de'Gaza (your money or his)?

1)

(a)Ravina asked Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak what the Din will be (vis-a-vis a Korban Oleh ve'Yored), according to Rebbi Yirmiyah and Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, in the case of a king who is stricken with Tzara'as. Generally, a king who is stricken with Tzara'as - is forced to abdicate his throne (as we will see later).

(b)Miftar Patur means that he is only Patur as long as he is king, but becomes Chayav once his status changes, and Midcha Dachi that - since he was Patur at the time that he contracted Tzara'as, he is permanently Patur.

(c)When Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak replied Dilach O de'Gaza (your money or his), he meant that - seeing as the Korban is purchased with the money belonging to the Nasi, he remains Patur. This, in turn, means that although he loses his throne, he does not lose his wealth (in which case he is still not subject to Aniyus and Ashirus).

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Akiva, a Kohen Gadol is Patur from a Korban Oleh ve'Yored. How does he learn it from the Pasuk in Naso (in connection with the Kohen Gadol's daily Korban Chavitin) "Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav"?

(b)We try to refute this proof however, by suggesting that the Torah only precludes him from bringing the Minchah of a very poor man (Dalei Dalus). On what grounds do we say that? Why might the Kohen be Patur by Dalei Dalus, more than by Dalus or Ashirus?

(c)We counter this suggestion by quoting the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Kohen Gadol) "Ve'chiper alav ha'Kohen al Chataso asher Chata me'Achas me'Eileh". What do we learn from "me'Achas me'Eileh"?

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Akiva, a Kohen Gadol is Patur from a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, based on the Pasuk in Naso "Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav" - implying that the only Korban that a Kohen Gadol is obligated to bring is his daily Korban Chavitin, to preclude a Korban Oleh ve'Yored).

(b)We try to refute this proof however, by suggesting that the Torah only precludes him from bringing the Minchah of a very poor man (Dalei Dalus) - which, like the Chavitei Kohen Gadol, comprises a tenth of an Eifah of fine flour (but not from that of Dalus [the bird Korban] and of Ashirus [the animal Korban]).

(c)We counter this suggestion by quoting the Pasuk "Ve'chiper alav ha'Kohen al Chataso asher Chata me'Achas me'Eileh" - which implies that whoever is Patur from one of the three options is Patur from the other two as well.

3)

(a)We have a problem with the current D'rashah however, from Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah. What did he say there with regard to a Nasi being Chayav ...

1. ... Bituy Sefasayim and Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav?

2. ... Shemi'as Kol?

(b)What does the Pasuk write there that poses a Kashya on the current D'rashah?

(c)How do Abaye and Rava differentiate between "me'Achas" and "le'Achas"?

(d)And we conclude that in the latter Pasuk, Rebbi Akiva explains "le'Achas" to mean that even if only one of the three applies, then the king is Chayav to bring that one. Then why does he not explain the Pasuk by the Kohen Gadol "Ve'chiper alav ha'Kohen al Chataso asher Chata me'Achas me'Eileh" in the same way?

3)

(a)The problem with the current D'rashah however is from Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah, who ruled that, whereas a Nasi is ...

1. ... Chayav a Korban by Bituy Sefasayim and Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav, he is ...

2. ... Patur by Shemi'as Kol ...

(b)... despite the fact that the Pasuk there too, writes "le'Achas me'Eileh". Why did he not Darshen there that whoever is Patur from one of them is Patur from all three (like he Darshens by Kohen Gadol)?

(c)Abaye and Rava differentiate between "me'Achas" (which implies the D'rashah that we Darshened) and "le'Achas" (which does not).

(d)And we conclude however, that in the latter Pasuk, Rebbi Akiva explains "le'Achas" to mean that even if only one of the three applies, then the king is Chayav to bring that one. He would in fact, have Darshened "me'Achas me'Eileh" in exactly the same way, if it had been written by Dal or Ashir. However, because it is written by Dalei Dalus (regarding which it is similar to the Minchas Chavitin, as we explained ealier, and in conjunction with the initial D'rashah by Minchas Chavitin ["Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav"]), he Darshens it to preclude all three.

4)

(a)In the case of pure Shogeg, our Mishnah recaps that ...

1. ... by other Mitzvos, a Yachid brings a Kisbah or Se'irah, and the Nasi, a Sa'ir. What do the Kohen Gadol and the Beis-Din bring?

2. ... by Avodah-Zarah, a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol bring a Se'irah. What do Beis-Din bring?

3. ... a Yachid and a Nasi are subject to an Asham Taluy. What does the Tana say about a Kohen Gadol and Beis-Din?

4. ... Beis-Din is Patur from an Asham Vaday. What does the Tana say about a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol?

(b)Everyone agrees that Beis-Din are Patur from a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, and that a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol are Chayav for two of the three cases. From which case does Rebbi Shimon exempt the Kohen Gadol?

(c)What does Rebbi Shimon say about a Nasi with regard to Shemi'as Kol (from which Rebbi Akiva exempts him)?

(d)According to the Tana Kama, those who are Chayav all bring a Korban Oleh ve'Yored. What does Rebbi Eliezer say about a Nasi?

4)

(a)In the case of pure Shogeg, our Mishnah recaps that ...

1. ... by other Mitzvos, a Yachid brings a Kisbah or Se'irah, and the Nasi, a Sa'ir. The Kohen Gadol and the Beis-Din bring - a Par.

2. ... by Avodah-Zarah, a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol bring a Se'irah. Beis-Din bring - a Par for an Olah, and a Sa'ir for a Chatas.

3. ... a Yachid and a Nasi are subject to an Asham Taluy - whereas a Kohen Gadol and Beis-Din are Patur.

4. ... Beis-Din is Patur from an Asham Vaday - whereas a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol are all Chayav.

(b)Everyone agrees that Beis-Din are Patur from a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, and that a Yachid, a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol are Chayav for two of the three cases. Rebbi Shimon exempts the Kohen Gadol - from Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav ...

(c)... and a Nasi from Shemi'as Kol (like Rebbi Akiva).

(d)According to the Tana Kama, those who are Chayav all bring a Korban Oleh ve'Yored. According to Rebbi Eliezer - he brings a Sa'ir.

5)

(a)Rebbi Shimon, in a Beraisa, presents K'lalim. He equates a Nasi with a Yachid as regards an Asham Taluy. He equates a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol with a Yachid regarding an Asham Vaday. What does he say about a Kohen Gadol and Beis-Din?

(b)He exempts Beis-Din from a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, and he obligates both a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol to bring it, though he exempts a Nasi from Shemi'as Kol and a Kohen Gadol from Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav. What does he hold by a Kohen Gadol viv-a-vis Shemi'as Kol and Bituy Sefasayim?

(c)How does Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua reconcile this with the Seifa, where Rebbi Shimon equates a Kohen Gadol with the Beis-Din, who are Patur from all three cases of Korban Oleh ve'Yored?

(d)We conclude that Rebbi Shimon agrees with Rebbi Akiva in one point, and argues with him in another. In which point does he ...

1. ... agree with him?

2. ... argue with him?

5)

(a)Rebbi Shimon, in a Beraisa, presents K'lalim. He equates a Nasi with a Yachid as regards an Asham Taluy, and he equates a Nasi with a Yachid regarding an Asham Vaday - but exempts both a Kohen Gadol and Beis-Din.

(b)He exempts Beis-Din from Korban Oleh ve'Yored, and he obligates both a Nasi and a Kohen Gadol to bring it, though he exempts a Nasi from Shemi'as Kol and a Kohen Gadol from Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav - implying that he is Chayav for Shemi'as Kol and Bituy Sefasayim.

(c)To reconcile this with the Seifa, where Rebbi Shimon equates a Kohen Gadol with the Beis-Din, who are Patur from all three cases of Korban Oleh ve'Yored - Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua establishes the latter by Dalei Dalus, and the former, by Dalus.

(d)We conclude that Rebbi Shimon ...

1. ... agrees with Rebbi Akiva - that a Kohen Gadol is Patur from the Minchah of Dalei Dalus, but ...

2. ... argues with him - when he exempts him from the Korban of a Dal (and of an Ashir) as well (as we just explained a little earlier).

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6)

(a)Which Halachah of Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah does Chizkiyah learn from the words "mi'Toch ha'Kahal" (in the Pasuk in Chukas [in connection with Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav] "Venichr'sah ha'Nefesh ha'Hi mi'Toch ha'Kahal")?

(b)In that case we ask, by the same token, a Nasi should be Patur from a Korban too (seeing as he does not share the Korban of the Kahal throughout the year). What do we answer?

(c)This leaves us however, with the Kashya, that Kohanim, who do not share in the Kahal's Korban on Yom Kipur either, should also be Patur from the Korban of Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav. Why do reject the suggestion that Kohanim are at least equal to the rest of the Kahal regarding other Mitzvos throughout the year?

(d)How does Rava finally amend Chizkiyah's Limud? From which Chet ha'Kahal is a Kohen Gadol exempt?

6)

(a)From the words "mi'Toch ha'Kahal" (in the Pasuk in Chukas [in connection with Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav] "Venichr'sah ha'Nefesh ha'Hi mi'Toch ha'Kahal"), Chizkiyah learn that - according to Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah, a Kohen Gadol is Patur from a Korban for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav), since he does not share the Korban of the Kahal on Yom Kipur).

(b)In that case we ask, by the same token, a Nasi should be Patur from a Korban too (seeing as he does not share the Korban of the Kahal throughout the year). Bearing in mind that this Pasuk occurs in the Parshah of Yom Kipur), we answer that - since he does share the Kahal's Korban on Yom Kipur, he is not precluded like a Kohen Gadol is.

(c)This leaves us however, with the Kashya, that Kohanim, who do not share in the Kahal's Korban on Yom Kipur either, should also be Patur from the Korban of Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav. We reject the suggestion that Kohanim are at least equal to the rest of the Kahal regarding other Mitzvos throughout the year - because a Kohen Gadol is, too (yet he is precluded).

(d)Rava finally amends Chizkiyah's Limud to read that - a Kohen Gadol is exempt from Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav because he is exempt from the Chet of the individuals of the Kahal (by S'tam Shig'gas Ma'aseh [not on Yom Kipur, but) the whole year round (which neither a Nasi nor Kohanim Hedyotos are).

7)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer in our Mishnah, obligates a Nasi to bring a Sa'ir for a Korban Oleh ve'Yored. Rebbi Yochanan restricts this ruling to Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav (but not to Shemi'as Kol and Shevu'as Bituy). Why is that?

(b)How does Rav Papa prove this from the fact that Rebbi Eliezer confines his ruling to a Nasi? If not for Rebbi Yochanan, who else ought he to have included?

(c)Why does he not at least include a Kohen Gadol by Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav?

7)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer in our Mishnah, obligates a Nasi to bring a Sa'ir for a Korban Oleh ve'Yored. Rebbi Yochanan restricts this ruling to Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav - which is Chayav Kareis be'Meizid, like cases of Chatas Kavu'a be'Shogeg (but not to Shemi'as Kol and Shevu'as Bituy - which are not).

(b)Rav Papa proves this from the fact that Rebbi Eliezer confines his ruling to a Nasi, because, if not for Rebbi Yochanan - he ought to have included a Kohen Gadol by Shemi'as Kol and Bituy Sefasayim.

(c)The reason that he does not even include a Kohen Gadol by Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav is - because he holds like Rebbi Shimon, who exempts a Kohen Gadol from a Korban by Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav.

8)

(a)Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua queried Rav Papa. Perhaps he asked, Rebbi Eliezer is referring to all three cases of Korban Oleh ve'Yored, because he holds like Rebbi Akiva. What does Rebbi Akiva say?

(b)Rav Papa replied that in any event, Rebbi Akiva did not exempt the Kohen Gadol from a Par. How does that answer the question?

(c)Did Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua accept Rav Papa's answer?

8)

(a)Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua queried Rav Papa. Perhaps he asked, Rebbi Eliezer is referring to all three cases of Korban Oleh ve'Yored (that a Kohen Gadol brings a Par), because he holds like Rebbi Akiva, who says that - a Kohen Gadol is Patur from a Korban Olah Oleh ve'Yored.

(b)To which Rav Papa replied that in any event, Rebbi Akiva does not exempt the Kohen Gadol from a Par - in which case, had Rebbi Eliezer concurred with his opinion, he should have added that to the Sa'ir of a Nasi.

(c)We conclude 've'Su Lo Midi' - from which it is clear that Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua accepted his answer.

9)

(a)What does Rebbi Yochanan say about Rebbi Eliezer vis-a-vis an Asham Taluy by Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav?

(b)A Beraisa expert cited a Beraisa in front of Rav Sheishes 'Asham Taluy Ba al Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav'. Why is that?

(c)Who is the author of this Beraisa?

(d)What is now the problem?

(e)What do we answer?

9)

(a)Rebbi Yochanan states that - Rebbi Eliezer concedes that a Nasi is Patur from an Asham Taluy by Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav (even though it is Chayav Kareis by Meizid just like a fixed Chatas).

(b)A Beraisa expert cited a Beraisa in front of Rav Sheishes (regarding a Nasi) 'Asham Taluy Ba al Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav' - because he is Chayav Kareis by Meizid, like a fixed Chatas.

(c)The author of this Beraisa must be - Rebbi Eliezer, who applies this S'vara to obligate a Nasi by Korban Oleh ve'Yored.

(d)The problem now is that - according to Rebbi Yochanan, the Beraisa will have no author).

(e)We have no answer, and we remain with a Kashya.

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10)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about a Kohen Gadol who sins and is removed from office, or a king who sins and abdicates. Which Korban does he need to bring?

(b)A Kohen Gadol who is removed from office and then sins, still brings a Par. What does the Tana say about a Nasi in the same circumstances?

10)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that - a Kohen Gadol who sins and is removed from office, or a king who sins and abdicates - still need to bring a Par and a Sa'ir respectively.

(b)The Tana rules that a Kohen Gadol who is removed from office and then sins still brings a Par - whereas a Nasi in the same circumstances - has the Din of a Hedyot (in which case he brings a Kisbah or Se'irah).

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