1)

PRODUCE DEPOSITED WITH A GENTILE (Yerushalmi Perek 3 Halachah 4 Daf 14b)

[דף ל עמוד א (עוז והדר)] רבי (ירמיה)[חנינא] בעי קומי רבי (זעירא)[אחא] מה כפירותיו ממש פוטר טבל ברור במקום אחר

(a)

Question (R. Chanina to R. Acha): What's the meaning of the Mishnah's phrase (Zevachim 101(b)) 'it is treated as the produce of a gentile'? Does it literally mean as his produce? This will cause a problem, as he will use these fruits to tithe fruits elsewhere!

אמר ליה ולכל (דבה)[דבר]

(b)

Answer (R. Acha): Did Chazal say that it is Tevel for everything? They said as a stringency that it's Terumos and Maaseros should be given, but not that he can use these fruits to tithe other fruits.

[דף טו עמוד א] ולא על יאות הוה רבי חנינא מתריס לקביל ר' אחא

(c)

R. Chanina should not have come against R. Acha in this matter, as his answer is sound.

רבי חייא בר בון בשם רבי יוסי בן חנינא לא אמר ר''ש אלא כדי קופתו

(d)

(R. Chiya bar Bun citing R. Yosi ben Chanina): The concern that the gentile switched it only applies to the gentiles own produce, but there's no concern that he had also received other boxes and they might have become switched with the Chaver's box.

הפקיד אצלו שתים [דף ל עמוד ב (עוז והדר)] אחת דמאי ואחת ודאי

1.

If the Chaver deposited two boxes but the gentile only owns one box, the law is that (the first) one (received back from the gentile) is treated as Demai and (the second) one is definite Tevel.

בקיימות אבל אם נאכלה הראשונה השנייה דמאי

2.

This applies when both boxes still exist, but if the first was eaten, the second is Demai.

נטלו ממנו מאה בני אדם מאה סאין בת אחת כל אחד ואחד מתקן דמאי:

3.

If one hundred people had each deposited a Se'ah with the gentile at the same time, when each person takes his back, he must separate as Demai.

נתנום לאדם אחד כבר (נראה)[נראית] להיות (ודאי)[דמאי]

4.

If they then gave them all to one person, one after another, each of the hundred are now Demai.

נטל ממנו אדם אחד כמה סאין בת אחת הראשונה דמאי והשאר ודאי נתנם למאה בני אדם כבר נראו להיות ודאי: :

5.

If one person took back several Se'ah at the same time, the first is Demai and the rest is definite. If the gentile gave them to 100 people at the same time (since one is definite Tevel and the other 99 are doubtful - meaning Demai), we are concerned about each of those 100 people that they have the definite Tevel.

והתני בשם ר''ש בשם רבי טרפון עשו פירות ישראל זה (כפירות)[את פירות] עכו''ם זה דמאי

i.

Question (Baraisa citing R. Shimon citing R. Tarfon): They treated the produce of this Jew who gave them (to the gentile) as Demai...?

עוד היא לא אמר ר''ש אלא עד כדי קופתו:

ii.

Answer: The Baraisa didn't mean that all of the fruits are Demai; only the equivalent of his box, but the rest is definite Tevel.