1)

(a)Bearing in mind that, according to Rebbi Shimon, the Se'irei Rosh Chodesh do not atone for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav she'Ein bahem Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof', what does he first of all learn (regarding the Se'irei ha'Regalim) from Rav Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's D'rashah "Se'ir", "u'Se'ir" from Rosh Chodesh?

(b)Then why does he not learn Se'irei ha'Regalim from "Sa'ir" "u'Se'ir" that they should atone for the same as the Sa'ir of ...

1. ... Rosh Chodesh (a Tahor who ate Tamei Kodshim)?

2. ... Yom Kipur (ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz ['she'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof'])?

(c)Why can they not atone for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav where there was ...

1. ... 'Yesh bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof'?

2. ... 'Yesh bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Ein bah Yedi'ah be'Sof'?

3. ... 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof'?

(d)So what do they atone for?

1)

(a)Bearing in mind that, according to Rebbi Shimon, the Se'irei Rosh Chodesh do not atone for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav 'she'Ein bahem Yedi'ah Lo ba'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof', he first of all learns (regarding the Se'irei ha'Regalim) from Rav Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's D'rashah "Se'ir", "u'Se'ir" from Rosh Chodesh that - they atone for Tum'as Kodshim (and not for other sins).

(b)He cannot learn from "Sa'ir" "u'Se'ir" that they should atone for the same as the Sa'ir of ...

1. ... Rosh Chodesh (a Tahor who ate Tamei Kodshim) - because of the word "ve'Osah" (in the Pasuk (in Shemini "ve'Osah Nasam lachem Laseis es Avon ha'Eidah, which confines the Kaparah to the Korban of Rosh Chodesh, as we learned earlier).

2. ... Yom Kipur (ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz ['she'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof']) - because of the Pasuk (in Acharei-Mos) "Achas ba'Shanah" (precluding others from atoning for that sin, as we learned earlier).

(c)Neither can they atone for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav where there was ...

1. ... 'Yesh bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof' - since that would not require a Korban.

2. ... 'Yesh bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Ein bah Yedi'ah be'Sof' - because they are tided over by the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi together with Yom Kipur.

3. ... 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Yesh bah Yedi'ah be'Sof' - because they are atones for by the Kaparah of the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz together with Yom Kipur.

(d)What thyey therefore atone for is - Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav where there is no Yedi'ah bi'Techilah and no Yedi'ah be'Sof.

2)

(a)Once again, we quote Rebbi Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's Hekesh ("Sa'ir" "u'Se'ir") to explain Rebbi Meir, who holds that all the goats atone for everything. What is the sole exception to this sweeping statement?

(b)What do we mean when we suggest that this means 'Kol Chad ve'Chad me'Chavreih Gamar'?

(c)What problem do we have with this explanation from a statement by Rebbi Yochanan? What did Rebbi Yochanan say about learning a Lameid from a Lameid?

(d)So how do we then suggest that we learn it?

2)

(a)Once again, we quote Rebbi Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's Hekesh ("Sa'ir u'Se'ir") to explain Rebbi Meir, who holds that all the goats atone for everything. The sole exception to this sweeping statement is - the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi, which does not atone for the same sins as they do, neither do they atone for the sin ('Yesh bo Yedi'ah bi'Techilah') that it does.

(b)When we suggest that this means 'Kol Chad ve'Chad me'Chavreih Gamar', we initially mean that - we first learn all the Regalim from Rosh Chodesh regarding Tahor she'Achal es ha'Tamei, and Succos from Yom-Kipur (regarding 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... ') and vice-versa (regarding 'Ein bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof'), and then we learn each one from the one that is next to it.

(c)The problem with this explanation however, is from a statement by Rebbi Yochanan who said that - one cannot learm one Lameid from another in the realm of Kodshim.

(d)So we suggest that - we learn all the cases from Rosh Chodesh (with regard to Tahor she'Achal Tamei, and vice-versa, regarding where there is no Yedi'ah at all), and from Yom ha'Kipurim (with regard to 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... ' and vice-versa, regarding 'Ein bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof').

3)

(a)What is the problem with applying Rebbi Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's D'rashah here at all?

(b)We finally learn all the cases one from the other - from the Hekesh of Rebbi Yonah. Which Pasuk in Pinchas does Rebbi Yonah quote?

(c)Rosh Chodesh is considered a Mo'ed only because of the Pasuk in Eichah "Kara alai Mo'ed". How does Abaye explain this Pasuk?

(d)What is the significance of Abaye's statement?

3)

(a)The problem with applying Rebbi Chama b'Rebbi Chanina's D'rashah here at all, is that - by Shevu'os and Yom Kipur there is no extra 'Vav', so how will we be able to learn them from the other cases.

(b)We finally learn all the cases one from the other from the Hekesh of Rebbi Yonah, who quotes the Pasuk in Pinchas - "Eileh Ta'asu la'Hashem be'Mo'adeichem", comparing all of the Musaf Korbanos of all the Yamim-Tovim to one another.

(c)Rosh Chodesh is considered a Mo'ed only because of the Pasuk in Eichah "Kara alai Mo'ed", which Abaye explains to mean that - they made Tamuz of that year (the second year in the desert, when they sent the spies) a full month (which is not usually the case).

(d)The significance of Abaye's statement is that - instead of the spies returning on the ninth of Av and Yisrael subsequently weeping on the eve of the tenth), they returned on the eighth, and Yisrael wept on the eve of the ninth, with the result that Tish'ah be'Av came to be fixed as a day of Churban (and not the tenth).

4)

(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, even Rebbi Meir will concede that the Sa'ir ha'Penimi does not atone for the atonement of the other Regalim, or vice-versa. What is his source for saying that ...

1. ... it does not atone their atonements?

2. ... they do not atone its atonement?

(b)And we corroborate Rebbi Yochanan's statement from a Beraisa. What is the proof from the Beraisa that ...

1. ... it does not atone their atonements?

2. ... they do not atone its atonement?

4)

(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, even Rebbi Meir will concede that the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi does not atone for the atonement of the other Regalim, or vice-versa. His source for saying that ...

1. ... it does not atone their atonements is - the word "Avon" (in the Pasuk in Shemini "Laseis es Avon ha'Eidah"), implying that it only attains one Kaparah (as we already learned).

2. ... the others do not atone its atonement is - the word "Achas" (in the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos "Achas ba'Shanah"), which implies that it only atones once a year, and no more.

(b)And we corroborate Rebbi Yochanan's statement from a Beraisa. The proof from the Beraisa that ...

1. ... it does not atone their atonements is that - although the Tana lists all the other goats, it omits the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi.

2. ... they do not atone its atonement is that - although it mentions all the sins that the various goats atone for, it does not mention 'Yesh bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ve'Ein bah Yedi'ah be'Sof'.

5)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon, the Sa'ir of Rosh Chodesh does not atone for the sins of the other Regalim, because the Torah writes "Avon", restricting its Kaparah to only one sin (as we just learned with regard to the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh bi'Fenim). But why do they not atone for its sins?

(b)The Se'irei ha'Regalim do not atone for the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz of Yom Kipur because the Torah writes "Achas ba'Shanah". But why does it not atone for them?

(c)But is "Achas" not written by the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi, whereas we are concerned with the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz?

5)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon, the Sa'ir of Rosh Chodesh does not atone for the sins of the other Regalim, because the Torah writes "Avon", restricting its Kaparah to only one sin. Neither do they not atone for its sins - because of the Pasuk "Osah", which confines the Kaparah for a Tahor she'Achal Tamei to the Sa'ir of Rosh Chodesh.

(b)The Se'irei ha'Regalim do not atone for the sins of the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz of Yom Kipur because the Torah writes "Achas ba'Shanah". And it does not atone for them - because of the Pasuk "Achas", implying that it only has one Kaparah and not two.

(c)Granted "Achas" is written by the Sa'ir Ha'Penimi, (whereas we are concerned with the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz) - but the Torah compares the two goats, when it writes "Milevad Chatas ha'Kipurim".

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6)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah in our Mishnah, the Se'irei ha'Regalim atone for 'Tahor she'Achal es ha'Tamei' as well as 'Ein bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof'. How will he counter the Tana Kama, who argues on the basis of the Pasuk "ve'osah Nasan lachem", 'Osah hu Nosei Avon, ve'Ein Acher Nosei Avon'?

(b)Then why does the Sa'ir of Rosh Chodesh not atone for 'Ein bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof' (like the Se'irei ha'Regalim)?

6)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah in our Mishnah, the Se'irei ha'Regalim are Mechaper for 'Tahor she'Achal es ha'Tamei' as well as 'Ein bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof'. He counters the Tana Kama (who argues on the basis of the Pasuk "ve'osah Nasan lachem", 'Osah hu Nosei Avon, ve'Ein Acher Nosei Avon") - since he does not make such a D'rashah from "Osah".

(b)Nevertheless, the Sa'ir of Rosh Chodesh does not atone for 'Ein Bah Yedi'ah Lo bi'Techilah ve'Lo be'Sof' (like the Se'irei ha'Regalim) - because he concedes to the Tana Kama that "Avon" implies 'Avon Echad Hu Nosei, ve'Eino Nosei Sh'tei Avonos'.

7)

(a)Similarly, the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz of Yom Kipur atones for both of the above, as well as for 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... '. How does Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah initially counter the Tana Kama, who argues on the basis of the Pasuk "Achas", 'Kaparah Achas Mechaper, ve'Eino Mechaper Sh'tei Kaparos'?

(b)What is the basis for saying this?

(c)How does the fact that he agrees that the Se'irei ha'Regalim do not atone for 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... ' pose a Kashya on what we just said?

(d)Having proved that Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah does, on principle, Darshen "Achas", how do we explain his reasoning as to why the same Kaparah on Yom Kipur atones for the Regalim, too (based on the Pasuk "Ve'chiper Aharon *al Karnosav* Achas ba'Shanah")?

7)

(a)Similarly, the Sa'ir ha'Na'aseh ba'Chutz of Yom Kipur atones for both of the above, as well as for 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... '. Initially, Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah counters the Tana Kama, who argues on the basis of the Pasuk "Achas", 'Kaparah Achas Mechaper, ve'Eino Mechaper Sh'tei Kaparos' - by disagreeing on principle with this D'rashah too ...

(b)... because it is written by the Chatas ha'Penimi - and he does not hold of the Hekesh between the Chatas Ha'Penimi and the Chatas ha'Na'asah ba'Chutz.

(c)The fact that he agrees that the Se'irei ha'Regalim do not atone for 'Ein bah Yedi'ah bi'Techilah ... ' poses a Kashya on what we just said - since the basis for this ruling is the word "Achas" (written in the Seifa), from which we Darshen that nothing else can atone its atonement (despite the fact that it is written by Chatas ha'Penimi [a clear proof that he must hold of the Hekesh]).

(d)Having proved that Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah does, on principle, Darshen "Achas", we explain his reasoning as to why the same Kaparah on Yom Kipur atones for the Regalim too, based on the Pasuk "Ve'chiper Aharon *al Karnosav* Achas ba'Shanah") - which implies that it is the Kaparos of the Mizbe'ach ha'Penimi exclusively that only atones for one Kaparah, but not the Mizbe'ach ha'Chitzon.

8)

(a)Ula Amar Yochanan discusses Temidin that are redundant. What does he mean by that?

(b)Why is this inevitable?

(c)What ruling does Rebbi Yochanan issue with regard to them? What are the ramifications of his ruling?

(d)What happens to the Chulin money on which they are redeemed?

(e)Why can one not simply redeem them on to the money of the new Terumah directly?

8)

(a)Ula Amar Yochanan discusses Temidin that are redundant - by which he means the four lambs that inevitably remain on Rosh Chodesh Nisan, out of the six inspected lambs that are always standing ready in the Lishkas ha'Tela'im.

(b)This is inevitable - because, starting from Rosh Chodesh Nisan, the Torah requires the Temidin to be purchased from the new money that has been donated during the month of Adar.

(c)Rebbi Yochanan rules that - they can be redeemed even without a blemish, re-purchased with money from the new donations and replaced into the Lishkas ha'Tela'im to be brought as a Korban Tamid.

(d)The Chulin money on which they are redeemed - goes to 'Mosar Terumah Yeshanah, to buy gold-plating to overlay the Kodesh Kodshim.

(e)One cannot simply redeem them on to the money of the new Terumah directly - because of the principle 'Ein Hekdesh Mischalel al Hekdesh'.

9)

(a)What did Rav Chisda say to Rabah, when he quoted him Rebbi Yochanan's statement? What was the basis of his objection?

(b)In response to Rav Chisda's Kashya, Rabah quoted the Mishnah in Shekalim (in connection with the Mosar ha'Ketores). What is 'Mosar ha'Ketores'?

(c)Why is that too, inevitable?

(d)How would they use it to pay the mixers their annual wage?

9)

(a)When Rabah quoted Rav Chisda Rebbi Yochanan's statement, the latter retorted that - nobody would listen to him (Rabah) or to Rebbi Yochanan his Rebbe, because where did the Kedushah go (seeing as generally, the Kedushas ha'Guf of a Korban cannot be redeemed before the animal obtains a blemish)?

(b)In response to Rav Chisda's Kashya, Rabah quoted the Mishnah in Shekalim in connection with Mosar ha'Ketores, which is - the leftover Ketores that remains each year.

(c)That too, is inevitable - on account of the extra three Manim (that they added to the annual quota of three-hundred and sixty-five Manim [one Manah per day]), from which the Kohen Gadol would take only one handful on Yom Kipur.

(d)They would use it to pay the mixers their annual wage - by one of the treasurers giving them money from the Terumas ha'Lishkah which then becomes Chulin. Then they would redeem the Mosar ha'Ketores on that money, and purchase it back for ten Manah from the new donations.

10)

(a)What does Rabah try to prove from there?

(b)What led him to believe that the Ketores is Kedushas ha'Guf?

(c)What did Rav Chisda retort?

(d)In which point had Rabah erred?

10)

(a)Rabah tries to prove from there that - even Kodshei Mizbe'ach of the Tzibur do not require a blemish in order to be redeemed.

(b)What led him to believe that the Ketores is Kedushas ha'Guf was the fact that - the mortar in which they were pounded was a K'li Shareis, and whatever is placed in a K'li Shareis becomes Kedushas ha'Guf.

(c)Rav Chisda retorted that - Ketores is not Kedushas ha'Guf at all, but Kedushas Damim ...

(d)... and Rabah's mistake was that - the mortar in which the Ketores was pounded was not a K'li Shareis, like he thought).

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