AGADAH ELUCIDATIONS - SHABBOS 80

80b----------------------------------------80b

THINGS USED TO BEAUTY GIRLS

סיד כדי לסוד תנא כדי לסוד אצבע קטנה שבבנות אמר רב יהודה אמר רב בנות ישראל שהגיעו לפרקן ולא הגיעו [לשנים] בנות עניים טופלות אותן בסיד. בנות עשירים טופלות אותן בסולת. בנות מלכים טופלות אותן בשמן המור שנאמר (אסתר ב) ששה חדשים בשמן המור. מאי שמן המור. רב הונא בר חייא אמר סטכת רב ירמיה בר אבא אמר שמן זית שלא הביא שליש. תניא רבי יהודה אומר אנפיקינון שמן זית שלא הביא שליש ולמה סכין אותו שמשיר את השער ומעדן את הבשר רב ביבי הוה ליה ברתא טפלה אבר אבר שקיל בה ארבע מאות זוזי הוה ההוא כותי בשבבותיה הויא ליה ברתא טפלה בחד זימנא ומתה אמר קטלה רב ביבי לברתי. אמר רב נחמן רב ביבי דשתי שיכרא בעיין בנתיה טפלא אנן דלא שתינן שיכרא לא בעיין בנתין טפלא: שם כי הא דההוא גלילא דאמרו ליה קום דרוש לנו במעשה מרכבה אמר להו אידרוש לכו כדדרש רבי נחמיה לחבריה ונפקת ערעיתא מן כותלא מחתי באנדיפי [ומית] אמר ליה מן דיליה דא ליה:

Translation: Our Mishnah taught the Shi'ur for plaster, to put [on the smallest of girls]. A Beraisa taught that it is to put on the smallest finger of a girl. Rav Yehudah said, Bnos Yisrael who reached Pirkan, but did not reach [years] - poor girls put on plaster to remove them. Rich girls use fine flour, and princesses use Mor oil - "Shishah Chadashim b'Shemen ha'Mor". What is Mor oil? Rav Huna bar Chiya said, it is Sateches. R. Yirmeyah bar Aba said, it is oil of olives that did not reach a third of their [normal] growth. In a Beraisa, R. Yehudah taught that Anfiknon is oil of olives that did not reach a third of their growth. Why do they anoint with it? It removes hair and softens skin. Rav Bivi put plaster on his daughter, one limb at a time. He received 400 Zuz for her. He had a Nochri neighbor who plastered his daughter all at once - she died. He complained that Rav Bivi caused her death. Rav Nachman said, Rav Bivi drinks beer, therefore his daughter needed plaster. We do not drink beer, so our daughters do not need it. In our Mishnah, R. Yehudah says, it is to plaster Kilkul [and R. Nechemyah says, it is to plaster Andifi]. What are Kilkul and Andifi? Rav said, they are the temple and the area underneath it, respectively. R. Yehudah's Shi'ur is bigger - elsewhere, Chachamim's Shi'ur is bigger! R. Yehudah's Shi'ur is less than Chachamim's; it is bigger than R. Nechemyah's. This cannot be! In a Beraisa, Rebbi said, I agree with R. Yehudah's opinion about Chavot, and with R. Nechemyah's opinion about clumps of kneaded plaster. Chavot is used both for the temple and the area underneath it (but clumps are not)! Rather, R. Yitzchak said, this refers to Andifa. Rav Kahana asked, does one waste his money?! Rather, Rav Kahana said, Andifi are notches. A Mishnah taught that there were notches in the [Kli Shares that held a] Hin, to show how much [oil or wine] is needed for [Nesachim of a] bull, of a ram, and of a lamb. Alternatively, Andifi is plaster put on the forehead. A Galilean came to Bavel; he was asked to expound about [Yechezkeil's vision of] the Merkavah (Hash-m's chariot). He repeated what R. Nechemyah taught to his colleague - a wasp emerged from the wall and stung him on the Andifi (forehead), killing him. People said that he caused his own death.

(a)

Why do people put plaster on a girl's finger?

Rashi: They would plaster the entire body, to redden it.

Rav Elyashiv: It is dangerous to plaster the entire body at once - a Nochri's daughter died from this! Since we plaster one limb at a time, the Shi'ur is the [smallest] amount needed for one limb.

(b)

What is the meaning of 'Bnos Yisrael who reached Pirkan, but did not reach [years]'?

Rashi: They brought two hairs [of puberty] before reaching the age proper for this; they are embarrassed about this.

Rav Elyashiv: The hairs are near the Ervah, in a covert place - people do not see them! Even so, she is ashamed lest others see the hairs in the bathhouse. Or, since it is abnormal, it is prone to become publicized.

Tosfos: They are close to the age to marry. They do so to beautify themselves. 'One who wants to whiten his daughter should give milk to her to drink, and feed chicks to her close to Pirkah' (Kesuvos 59b).

(c)

The Shi'ur for fine flour should be for plastering, for rich girls do so!

Rav Elyashiv: It is not, for this use is not common.

(d)

What is Sateches?

Etz Yosef citing the Aruch: It is Mira Dachya (the Targum of "Mar Deror" (Shemos 30:23), i.e. scented oil).

Etz Yosef citing Mosif ha'Aruch: It is sap from Mor trees, and Mor oil from the press. The Targum of "[Shishah Chadashim] b'Shemen ha'Mor" is ba'Tacheses. This is a printing mistake; it should say b'Sateches.

(e)

About what did we ask 'why do they anoint with it?'

Rashi: We asked about Mor oil.

Etz Yosef: In Mo'ed Katan 9b, Rashi explained that it refers to all these that girls anoint with.

(f)

Why did Rav Bivi receive 400 Zuz for his daughter?

Rashi: She became very beautiful; many proper men were eager to marry her. (One gave 400 Zuz to be Mekadesh her.)

Rav Elyashiv: Heaven forbid that he would marry her off to someone improper, for money! Therefore, Rashi explained that they were proper for her, and also gave money.

(g)

What is the connection between drinking beer and needing plaster?

Rashi: Beer darkens [the skin] and increases hair.

Etz Yosef: In Mo'ed Katan 9b, Rashi explained that it thickens the skin and causes hair to grow.

(h)

Why do people plaster Kilkul and Andifi?

Rashi: It makes the hair of Kilkul lie flat, and removes the fine hairs of Andifi.

(i)

What was the question 'R. Yehudah's Shi'ur is bigger'?

Rashi: We hold that his Shi'ur is smaller. He is more stringent about Shi'urim of Shabbos!

(j)

What is Chachamim's Shi'ur?

Rashi: It is enough to plaster the pinky.

(k)

What is Chavot?

Rashi: It is plaster dissolved in much water.

(l)

What is Andifa?

Rashi #1: It is a Kli with one opening above and one below.

Rav Elyashiv: 'I agree with R. Nechemyah regarding clumps' implies that he discusses also plaster dissolved in much water. It is not proper to seal an opening! Indeed, we could have asked this; without this, we properly rejected this answer.

Rashi #2: It is plastering the entire body. Since it is to redden (not to make the hair lie flat), much is needed. This Perush explains that 'notches' refers to one limb at a time. The Gemara does not do so! Also, we need to bring 'there were notches in the Hin' to explain this.

Rav Elyashiv: If 'notches' means one limb at a time, R. Nechemyah holds like Rabanan. Above, we said that his Shi'ur is smaller! We must say that he does not require enough for the entire finger; even one joint suffices.

(m)

What loss comes via Andifa?

Rashi #1: The wine would dissolve the plaster, and leak out.

Rav Elyashiv: Also notches in a Kli can be dissolved, but it is a small loss to make them again. If wine dissolves the plaster sealing a hole, it leaks out, and this is a great loss.

Rashi #2: He spends much money to plaster his daughter's entire body, and it could kill her, like the Nochri's daughter died!

(n)

How did he cause his own death?

Rashi: He should not have expounded about the Merkavah.

Rav Elyashiv: One may expound about it only to one Chacham, and only if he understands [mostly] by himself (Chagigah 11b). This Chacham expounded b'Rabim.

WHAT IS 'A LIGHT EGG'?

שם אמר ליה מר בריה דרבינא לבריה מי שמיע לך ביצה קלה מאי היא. אמר ליה ביעתא דצלצלא מאי טעמא משום דזוטרא. אימא דצפירתא אישתיק. א"ל מידי שמיע לך בהא [א"ל הכי] אמר רב ששת ביצת תרנגולת. אמאי קרו ליה ביצה קלה. שיערו חכמים אין לך ביצה קלה לבשל יותר מביצת תרנגולת:

Translation: Mar brei d'Ravina asked, did you hear what is 'a light egg'? His son said, it is the egg of Tziltzalta. Mar brei d'Ravina objected, presumably, this is because it is small. If so, you should say of Tzefirta! His son could not answer; he asked his father if he had heard an answer. He said, Rav Sheshes said that it is a hen's egg. Why is it called a light egg? It cooks the fastest of all eggs.

(a)

What is Tziltzalta?

Rashi: It is a small bird.

(b)

What is Tzefirta?

Kovetz Shitos Kamai, citing the Aruch: It is Daitzifi mentioned in Chulin 62a (our text there says Datzifi); it is in the Tor (turtledove) family.

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