1)

(a)When Rebbi Akiva paid Rebbi Eleizer a Bikur Cholim visit, they initially sat in his store-room. Where was he sitting?

(b)Why was Hurkenus his son, forced to leave the room with a scolding?

(c)How did Rebbi Eliezer prove to him that ...

1. ... he was perfectly lucid?

2. ... if anything, it was his mother who was confused?

(d)Assuming that Shabbos is not Z'man Tefilin, why would wearing Tefilin on Shabbos be forbidden?

(e)Why is this not an Isur Sekilah mi'd'Oraysa?

1)

(a)When Rebbi Akiva paid Rebbi Eleizer a Bikur Cholim visit, they initially sat in his store-room. Rebbi Eliezer was sitting - in his canopy.

(b)Hurkenus his son was forced to leave the room with a scolding - when he tried to remove his father's Tefilin, because it was nearly Shabbos (and Hurkanus held that 'Shabbos La'av Z'man Tefilin hi').

(c)Rebbi Eliezer proved to him that ...

1. ... he was perfectly lucid - by pointing out that Tefilin was no more than an Isur Sh'vus (mi'de'Rabbanan), and that ...

2. ... if anything, it was his mother who was confused - for not kindling the Shabbos-lights first (see Tosfos DH 'He'ach').

(d)The prohibition of wearing Tefilin on Shabbos (assuming that Shabbos is not Z'man Tefilin) is - mi'de'Rabbanan, in case one walks out into the street with them, which is Asur mi'de'Rabbanan (see Tosfos DH 'la'Chelotz) ...

(e)... not an Isur d'Oraysa, which is subject to Sekilah - because one is not Chayav for going into the street wearing something in the way that one wears it during the week.

2)

(a)Why, when the Chachamim saw that Rebbi Eliezer was indeed lucid, did they enter the room and sit at a distance of four Amos?

(b)What did they reply when he asked them ...

1. ... why they had come?

2. ... why they did not come earlier?

(c)What bad news did he give them (as a result of their laxness in coming to learn from him)?

(d)What did he reply, when Rebbi Akiva asked him what was destined to happen to him?

2)

(a)When the Chachamim saw that Rebbi Eliezer was indeed lucid, they entered the room and sat at a distance of four Amos - because he was in Cherem.

(b)When he asked them ...

1. ... why they had come - they replied 'to learn Torah'.

2. ... why they did not come earlier they replied that - they did not have time.

(c)The bad news that he gave them (as a result of their laxness in coming to learn from him) was that - they would all not die a natural death.

(d)When Rebbi Akiva asked him what was destined to happen to him, he replied - that he would suffer the worst death of all (see Rashash).

3)

(a)What did Rebbi Eliezer comment on his two arms after placing them on his heart?

(b)He told his Talmidim how he had learned much Torah from his Rebbes. How much did ...

1. ... he glean from them?

2. ... his Talmidim glean from him?

(c)How many Halachos had Rebbi Eliezer learned in connection with a strong Baheres (the most extreme form of Tzara'as) that nobody had ever asked him about?

3)

(a)Rebbi Eliezer placed his two arms on his heart - and lamented the imminent passing of the two arms that were like two rolled Sifrei Torah.

(b)He told his Talmidim how he had learned much Torah from his Rebbes. He claimed that ...

1. ... in spite of that, he had gleaned - only as much as a dog lapping water from the ocean.

2. ... his Talmidim gleaned from him - only as much as the small amount of blue eye-paint that one takes out of the paint-holder on the tip of a splinter of wood or silver.

(c)Rebbi Eliezer had learned - three hundred Halachos in connection with a strong Baheres (the most extreme form of Tzara'as), that nobody had ever asked him about.

4)

(a)With regard to which other area of Halachah did he issue a similar complaint?

(b)According to others, it wasn't three hundred Halachos that he had learned there. Then how many was it?

(c)The only other difference between these two sets of Halachos was, that with regard to the latter set, there was one person who had queried him. Who was it?

(d)What did Rebbi Akiva once ask him ...

1. ... when they were walking together?

2. ... after he had said something and fulfilled his request?

4)

(a)He issued a similar complaint with regard to - the Halachos pertaining to the different kinds of Kishuf (magic) required to plant a field of cucumbers.

(b)According to others, it wasn't three hundred Halachos that he had learned there - but three thousand.

(c)The only other difference between these two sets of Halachos was, that with regard to the latter set, there was one person who had queried him - Rebbi Akiva ...

(d)... who had once asked him ...

1. ... when they were walking together - to teach him about planting a field full of cucumbers by means of Kishuf; and ...

2. ... after he had said something and fulfilled his request - he asked him to teach him how to remove them (which he did).

5)

(a)What did the Talmidim then ask him about a ball, a shoe-form, a Kamei'a, a pearl-bag and a small lead weight? What are all of these covered with?

(b)What did he ...

1. ... reply?

2. ... rule about Toveling them in the event that the leather covering split?

3. ... reply when they asked him further whether a shoe that has still to be removed from the shoe-form is Tamei or Tahor?

(c)What is significant about his reply?

(d)Why did they ask him specifically these She'eilos at that moment?

(e)Had he in fact retracted? What did the Rabbanan say about ...

1. ... the ball and the shoe-form that are still whole?

2. ... the shoe-form whose leather covering split?

3. ... the shoe that has still to be removed from the shoe-form?

5)

(a)The Talmidim then asked him whether - a leather-covered ball, a shoe-form, a Kamei'a, a pearl-bag and a small lead weight - are subject to Tum'ah; whether their permanent filling is considered a Beis Kibul (a receptacle), since leather vessels are not subject to Tum'ah unless they are.

(b)He ...

1. ... replied - in the affirmative.

2. ... ruled that should the leather covering split, they can nevertheless be Toveled, because, the cover and the stuffing are considered one vessel (in which case the stuffing is not a Chatzitzah [an interruption]).

3. ... replied, when they asked him further whether a shoe that has still to be removed from the shoe-form is Tamei or Tahor, he replied - 'Tahor' (because, since the shoe has still to be removed, it is not yet finished) ...

(c)The significance of that word ('Tahor') ;ies in the fact that it was the last word that he spoke before he died (in which case his Neshamah departed be'Taharah).

(d)They asked him specifically these She'eilos at that moment - to ascertain whether he had retracted from his previous stance in his Machlokes with the Rabbanan (in Keilim).

(e)In fact he had not retracted. The Rabbanan ruled that ...

1. ... a ball and a shoe-form that are still whole - are Tahor (because whatever is permanently stuffed is not considered a Beis Kibul).

2. ... if their leather covering split - they cannot be Toveled, because the stuffing is a Chatzitzah.

3. ... the shoe that has still to be removed from the shoe-form - is Tamei, (because, since any simple person can remove the shoe from the form, it is considered finished).

6)

(a)What did Rebbi Yehoshua announce immediately after Rebbi Eliezer death?

(b)Rebbi Eliezer died in Caesaria as Shabbos entered. When and where did they bury him?

(c)What was Rebbi Yehoshua doing all the way from Caesaria to Lod?

(d)He also delivered a Hesped that began with the Pasuk in Melachim (said by Elisha, following the departure of Eliyahu) "Avi Avi, Rechev Yisrael u'Farashav". What else did he lament?

6)

(a)Immediately after Rebbi Eliezer death, Rebbi Yehoshua announced that - the Neder (in other words, the Cherem) was released.

(b)Rebbi Eliezer died in Caesaria as Shabbos entered. They buried him - on Motza'ei Shabbos in Lod (see Rashash).

(c)All the way from Caesaria to Lod, Rebbi Yehoshua - was beating himself until blood actually flowed from him (see Tosfos DH 'Hayah').

(d)He also delivered a Hesped that began with the Pasuk (said by Elisha, following the departure of Eliyahu) "Avi Avi, Rechev Yisrael u'Farashav". He also lamented - that he had money but no banker to inspect it (meaning that he had She'eilos but no Rav to answer them).

7)

(a)It appears from the previous Beraisa that Rebbi Akiva learned the Dinim of Kishuf with regard to a cucumber-field from Rebbi Eliezer. How do we reconcile this with our Mishnah, where he is quoted as having learned them from Rebbi Yehoshua?

(b)And we reconcile Rebbi Eliezer, who actually produced a field of cucumbers, with our Mishnah 'Asah Ma'aseh, Chayav', by citing Mar. What did Mar learn from the Pasuk in Shoftim "Lo Silmad La'asos?

7)

(a)It appears from the pervious Beraisa that Rebbi Akiva learned the Dinim of Kishuf with regard to a cucumber-field from Rebbi Eliezer. To reconcile this with our Mishnah, where he is quoted as having learned them from Rebbi Yehoshua - we conclude that he first learned them from Rebbi Eliezer, but he only accepted them after learning them a second time from Rebbi Yehoshua.

(b)And we reconcile Rebbi Eliezer, who actually produced a field of cucumbers with our Mishnah 'Asah Ma'aseh, Chayav', by citing Mar who learned from the Pasuk "Lo Silmad La'asos" that - it is only in order to practice witchcraft that it is forbidden to learn about it, but not if it is on order to know the Halachos for Hora'ah (to issue rulings).

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Perek ben Sorer u'Moreh

8)

(a)Why does our Mishnah insert Perek 'ben Sorer u'Moreh' here?

(b)What is a ben Sorer u'Moreh'a ...

1. ... minimum age of?

2. ... maximum age?

(c)What does the Tana mean when he uses the word 'Zakan'? Why does he use this ambiguous word?

8)

(a)Our Mishnah inserts Perek 'ben Sorer u'Moreh' here - because he is punishable by Sekilah (which is what we are currently discussing).

(b)The ...

1. ... minimum age of a ben Sorer u'Moreh is - when he grows two pubic hairs (that render him bar-Mitzvah).

2. ... his maximum age - when his pubic-hair has grown (around the Gid of the B'ris Milah).

(c)When the Tana uses the word 'Zakan', he refers to the lower beard (the pubic hair), and he uses this ambiguous word - in order to express himself in a refined manner.

9)

(a)Which two Dinim does our Mishnah extrapolate from the word "ben"?

(b)Seeing as 'ben' usually implies even under bar-Mitzvah, and 'Ish', from the age of bar-Mitzvah, on what grounds does the Tana interpret it here to mean from bar-Mitzvah, and "Ish", only three months later?

(c)We ask why we need to specifically preclude a Katan from the Chiyuv of a ben Sorer u'Moreh more that any other Mitzvah, where he is automatically Patur. What do we answer (besides the fact that "ben" implies a Katan)? Why might we have thought that he is Chayav?

(d)So how do we in fact, interpret the Pasuk "ve'Chi Yih'yeh le'Ish ben Sorer u'Moreh"?

9)

(a)Our Mishnah extrapolates from the word "ben" - "ben", 've'Lo bas', "ben"; ve'Lo 'Ish' (to preclude both a Katan and a man, from the Din of ben Sorer u'Moreh).

(b)Despite the fact that 'ben' usually implies even under bar-Mitzvah, and 'Ish', from the age of bar-Mitzvah, the Tana interprets it here to mean from bar-Mitzvah, and "Ish", only three months later - because a Katan is never subject to the death-penalty.

(c)We ask why we need to specifically preclude a Katan from the Chiyuv of a ben Sorer u'Moreh more that any other Mitzvah, where he is automatically Patur. Besides the fact that "ben" implies a Katan, we answer that we might otherwise have thought that he is Chayav - because unlike other sinners, a ben Sorer u'Moreh is punished because of what he will ultimately do, not because of what he has already done (in which case there ought to be no difference between a Gadol and a Katan).

(d)In fact, we interpret the Pasuk "ve'Chi Yih'yeh le'Ish ben Sorer ... " - to mean 'ben ha'Samuch li'Gevoraso shel Ish' (meaning the period immediately following his becoming an Ish).

10)

(a)How does Rebbi Chiya's Beraisa explain 'ad she'Yakif'?

(b)What does Rav Dimi add to this

(c)What does Rav Chisda say about the son of a Katan with regard to a ben Sorer u'Moreh?

(d)How does he extrapolate this from the Pasuk "Ki Yih'yeh le'Ish ben ... "?

(e)What fact in connection with a Katan, can we extrapolate from Rav Chisda's ruling?

10)

(a)Rebbi Chiya's Beraisa explains 'ad she'Yakif' to mean - 'until the hair grows around the Gid'.

(b)Rav Dimi adds to this - that it does not need to grow around the Beitzim as well.

(c)Rav Chisda rules that the son of a Katan - cannot become a ben Sorer u'Moreh ...

(d)... and he extrapolates this from the word le'Ish (in the Pasuk "Ki Yih'yeh le'Ish ben ... ") - "le'Ish, ben", 've'Lo le'ben, ben'.

(e)We can extrapolate from Rav Chisda's ruling that - in his opinion, it is possible for a Katan to father children.

11)

(a)How do we reconcile this with the fact that we have already used this Pasuk for Rav Yehudah Amar Rav's D'rashah ('ben ha'Samuch li'Gevuraso shel Ish')? What could the Torah have written to teach us that Din only?

(b)And how do we know that the Pasuk does not come to teach us only Rav Chisda's Din? What could the Torah have written then?

11)

(a)Granted, Rav Yehudah Amar Rav has already used this Pasuk to Darshen 'ben ha'Samuch li'Gevuraso shel Ish'. However, to teach us that Din only, the Torah could have written - "Ki Yih'yeh ben le'Ish".

(b)And to teach us only Rav Chisda's Din, the Torah could have written - "Ki Yih'yeh ben Ish". "Ki Yih'yeh le'Ish ben" enables us to make both D'rashos.

12)

(a)Rabah, discussing the Pasuk in Naso "ve'Im Ein la'Ish Go'el", disagrees with Rav Chisda. About what sort of person must this Pasuk be speaking?

(b)What ruling does the Torah issue in this regard?

(c)What does Rabah now extrapolate from the word "Ish"?

(d)What else does Rabah extrapolate from there (in connection with the law of nature)?

12)

(a)Rabah, discussing the Pasuk in Naso "ve'Im Ein la'Ish Go'el", disagrees with Rav Chisda (as we will now see). This Pasuk must be speaking about - Gezel ha'Ger, since every born Yisrael has blood relatives (via descendants of Ya'akov Avinu).

(b)The Torah rules there - that the Ganav must pay what he stole plus a fifth to the Kohanim (of the Mishmar that is serving in the Beis-ha'Mikdash that week]).

(c)Rabah now extrapolate from the word "Ish" that - it is only when the deceased Ger is an "Ish" that one needs to examine whether he left no children (born after his conversion [who will inherit the stolen money, instead of the Kohen]), but not if he is a Katan (who does not need to be examined ...

(d)... because a Katan cannot have children.

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