(Mishnah - Temurah): The offspring of a Korban Chatas, the Temurah of a Chatas, a Chatas whose owners died, if it became more than a year old or if it was lost and it was later found to be blemished - they must all die.

In the case of the offspring of a Chatas, there is a dispute if a community separated a female or a Nasi separated a female goat -

R. Yirmiyah said it did not receive any type of Kedushah and its offspring can be sacrificed.

R. Yosa said that it received Kedushah and its offspring must therefore die.

R. Yosa's proof comes from the Mishnah in Temurah - "You cannot speak about 'the offspring of a Chatas' regarding a communal Korban as the community never brings a female as a Korban''. The Mishnah only said that 'you cannot speak' - but if he consecrated it, it would work.

R. Yosa bei R. Bun: R. Yirmiyah is correct - it is the opinion of R. Shimon who said that if a person consecrated a female animal as a Korban Olah, it only receives Kedushas Damim (only its monetary value belongs to the Temple but it cannot be used for a Korban. However the Korbanos of a community or a Nasi do not receive Kedushah at all.)

The same dispute about the Temurah of a Pesach applies to the Temurah of a Chatas -

If he made a Temurah on the 13th of Nisan -

R. Zeira said that its Temurah is brought as a Shelamim. (So too, the Temurah of a Chatas that was incorrectly consecrated can be brought as an Olah).

R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitschak said that it is not brought as a Shelamim. (So too, the Temurah of the Chatas cannot be sacrificed - rather, it must die.

If the owner of a Chatas died, the animal must die. But if the animal had been incorrectly consecrated -

It follows the words of R. Hila quoting Shmuel - if the owner of a Pesach died on the 13th, it is brought as a Shelamim (as it was not a valid Pesach. Here too, since the Chatas was not valid, it is brought as an Olah).

Question: Why not discuss a case of the owner dying on the 14th?

Answer: All agree that any case where it had become fitting to be brought for Pesach, it is not brought as a Shelamim.

Question: What if it was consecrated when older than a year (and therefore not suitable as a Korban Chatas, just as a Pesach is not)?

Answer: It follows R. Chisda who said that a Korban Pesach became more than a year old between Pesach Rishon and Pesach Sheni (is invalid).

R. Hila quoting R. Yochanan: If the time of the Pesach's atonement passed (for example, if the owner died) or if it was lost and later found unblemished, it may be brought as a Shelamim.

Support (R.Yasa quoting R. Yochanan): A Pesach is only brought as a Shelamim if it was lost and later found after the owners received atonement (by bringing another animal as a Pesach).

Question: What if the animal was found later with a blemish?

Question (R. Zeira to R. Yasa): It is not logical to ask about such an animal that received a blemish, as is as if it is lost, which is a case that has already been discussed!

Response (R. Yasa to R. Zeira): I agree with you.

Question: If a person separated his Pesach and it became lost; and he separated a replacement but before sacrificing the second one, the first one was found, what should he do with them?

One Beraisa teaches that he should bring the first animal; another Beraisa teaches that he should bring the second one.

Shmuel also taught like the second Beraisa, but he understood that one could even bring the second -

He should choose the better animal and the other one should graze until it receives a blemish and then be sold and its money used to buy a Shelamim on the 16th.

R. Elazar disagrees and says that the second animal should itself be brought as a Shelamim on the 16th (rather than be sent to graze etc.).

Rebbi follows R. Elazar's opinion and Shmuel taught like (the Rabbanan). (Note: This follows the text of the Korban HaEidah.) - as the Beraisa teaches -

Rebbi says that a Chatas only dies if it was [lost and later] found after the replacement was sacrificed. And if he had separated money for a Chatas and it was lost and a replacement brought - if they were found before the replacement was sacrificed and he brought one of them, the other one falls as a donation to the Temple. But if he found the first monies after the replacement was sacrificed, the other one is thrown into the sea.