(Mishnah): One is liable for wine by itself, grapes by themselves, Chartzanim by themselves and Zagim by themselves;

R. Elazar ben Azaryah says, one is liable only for eating two pits and their peel.

Which are Chartzanim and which are Zagim? Chartzanim are the outside (grape peels), and Zagim are the inner (pits). R. Yehudah says so;

R. Yosi says, (they are the opposite;) so you will not err, it is like a animal bell. The outer part is Zug, and the inner (clapper) is Inbul.

(Gemara) Question: It says "va'Anavim Lachim vi'Yveshim Lo Yochal" - since it says Anavim, do I not know that they are moist?! Why does it say "va'Anavim Lachim vi'Yveshim"?

Answer: This obligate for this (moist grapes) by itself, and this (dry grapes) by itself.

This is like what Chizkiyah taught. In a place (Orlah) where [the Torah] did not make the waste of a fruit like the fruit, it made dry like moist. Here (Nazir), it made the waste of a fruit like the fruit - all the more so it should make dry like moist!

[If so,] why does it say "Lachim vi'Yveshim"? This obligates for this by itself, and this by itself.

This is like R. Heila taught - "Lo Yachavol Reichayim va'Rachev." Since it says Rechev (the upper millstone), do I not know that Reichayim (the lower millstone) is included?! Why does it say Reichayim va'Rachev? This obligates for this by itself, and this by itself.

(Beraisa): Lachim includes Boser (unripe grapes). Lachim includes Semader (the flower from which comes Boser).

The Beraisa is like R. Yosi, for R. Yosi says, Semader is forbidden to a Nazir, for it is Pri. (Boser and Semader are not absolute Pri, therefore we need a verse to include them - SHIREI KORBAN.)

One can eat one cluster, and he is liable for Lachim, Yeveshim, Chartzanim and Zagim. If he soaked [the grapes in water, and drank it], he is liable for Mishreh. If he squeezed them, he is liable for wine. If they warned him for "mi'Chol Asher Ya'aseh mi'Gefen ha'Yayin..." (he is lashed also for it).

(R. Bun bar Acha): The reason for R. Elazar ben Azaryah is due to a Beriyah. (He obligates for a whole grape only if he also ate the peel and two pits.)

(Beraisa): [Me']Chartzanim v'Ad Zag" includes the matter in between them.

Question: It was taught in the name of R. Eliezer "mi'Chol Asher Ya'aseh mi'Gefen ha'Yayin [me'Chartzanim v'Ad Zag]" - even leaves and sprigs are implied! (We expound me'Chartzanim v'Ad Zag for the previous Drashah!)

Answer: R. Eliezer holds like R. Yishmael, for R. Yishmael says, a Prat u'Chlal, everything is included in the Klal. He holds an even bigger Chidush than R. Yishmael, for [R. Eliezer] says so even for Prat u'Chlal u'Ferat, everything is included. (We explained this like PNEI MOSHE);

Why does it say me'Chartzanim v'Ad Zag? This includes the matter in between them.

Question: What is [a result of] R. Yosi's opinion?

Answer: If he ate half a k'Zayis of Chartzanim (pits) and Zagim from one grape, according to R. Elazar ben Azaryah he is liable [for it is a Beriyah. A grape has pits, but only one peel.] According to Rabanan, he is exempt.

Question: What is [a result of] R. Yehudah's opinion?

Answer: If he ate a k'Zayis of Chartzanim (peels) and Zagim from two grapes, according to R. Elazar ben Azaryah [one is not liable for less than a k'Zayis, like all Isurim, just a Gezeiras ha'Kasuv exempts until he eats Chartzanim (two peels) and Zag. There are only two peels in two grapes, so] he is liable only once. According to Rabanan [who do not expound this Gezeiras ha'Kasuv], he is liable twice. (We explained this like the GRIZ, 35a.)

(R. Avun): R. Elazar ben Azaryah holds like R. Yehudah. If you will say [that he holds like] R. Yehudah, [he should have said that one is not liable until he eats] a k'Zayis, [including] two Chartzanim (peels) and their Zag. (SEFER NIR)