1)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, in a case where Beis-Din err with regard to other sins, they bring a bull. What do bring if they err with regard to Avodah-Zarah?

(b)According to Rebbi Yehudah, if Beis-Din err with regard to other sins, they bring twelve bulls. What will they bring if they err with regard to Avodah-Zarah?

(c)What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(d)What does Rebbi Shimon say? What is his reason?

1)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, in a case where Beis-Din err with regard to other sins, they bring a bull. If however, they err with regard to Avodah-Zarah, they bring a bull and a goat. Note, that throughout the Sugya, whenever we speak about the obligation to bring one bull, or a number of bulls for other sins, this automatically means , one, or the equivalent number of, goats in the case of Avodah-Zarah.

(b)According to Rebbi Yehudah, if Beis-Din err with regard to most sins, they bring twelve bulls; whereas if they err with regard to Avodah-Zarah, they must bring twelve bulls and twelve goats.

(c)The basis of their Machlokes is - whether the onus to bring the Chatas lies with Beis-Din (Rebbi Meir), or with the people (Rebbi Yehudah), and each tribe, he holds, is called a Kahal.

(d)Where Rebbi Yehudah says twelve ... - Rebbi Shimon says thirteen, because in his opinion, both each tribe and Beis-Din are obligated to bring a Korban.

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir, in a case where the majority of K'lal Yisrael sin following Beis-Din erroneous ruling, Beis-Din bring one bull (or a bull and a goat). What does ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah say in a case where one tribe sinned?

2. ... Rebbi Shimon say in a case where seven tribes sinned?

(b)What does Rebbi Yehudah say about one tribe that sinned following the erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din (of twenty-three)?

(c)What do the Chachamim learn from the Pasuk "ve'Im Kol Adas Yisrael Yishgu"?

(d)Does this mean that no Korban is brought in this case?

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir, in a case where the majority of K'lal Yisrael sin following Beis-Din erroneous ruling, Beis-Din bring one bull. According to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah, in a case where one tribe sinned - then not only that tribe, but even those tribes that did not sin, must each bring one bull each.

2. ... Rebbi Shimon, in a case where seven tribes sinned - they bring eight bulls, one for each tribe that sinned and one for Beis-Din.

(b)According to Rebbi Yehudah, if one tribe sinned following the erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din (of twenty-three) - it is obligated to bring one bull.

(c)The Chachamim learn from the Pasuk "ve'Im Kol Adas Yisrael Yishgu" that - the Din of Shig'gas Hora'ah only applies to Beis-Din ha'Gadol.

(d)This does not mean that no Korban is brought in this case - but that each person brings a regular Kisbah or Se'irah.

3)

(a)What does the Tana Kama of the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'Nod'ah ha'Chatas (asher Chat'u alehah, Ve'hikrivu)"?

(b)What does Rebbi Yehudah there learn from ...

1. ... "asher Chat'u"?

2. ... "Ve'hikrivu ha'Kahal"?

(c)Actually, even one tribe brings a bull, if it alone followed the ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol. Then why does he present the case of two tribes that sinned?

3)

(a)The Tana Kama of the Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'Nod'ah ha'Chatas (asher Chat'u alehah, Ve'hikrivu)" that - if Beis-Din become aware that they erred, but are not sure whether the ruling that they issued concerned Cheilev or Dam, they are Patur (because they have to know what their sin was, and not just that they sinned).

(b)Rebbi Yehudah there learns from ...

1. ... "asher Chat'u" that - if two tribes follow the Beis-Din ha'Gadol's erroneous ruling, they must bring two bulls.

2. ... "Ve'hikrivu ha'Kahal" that - the remaining ten tribes that did not din must each bring one as well.

(c)Actually, even one tribe brings a bull, if it alone followed the ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol. Nevertheless, he presents the case of two tribes that sinned - to teach us that they must bring one bull for each tribe (and cannot get away with one bull between them).

4)

(a)What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Kahal" "Kahal" ("Ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal" from "ve'Ne'elam me'Einei ha'Kahal")?

(b)How can Rebbi Meir learn from the same 'Gezeirah-Shavah' that if seven tribes followed Beis-Din's ruling, the latter bring only one bull?

4)

(a)Rebbi Shimon learns from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Kahal" "Kahal" ("Ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal" from "ve'Ne'elam me'Einei ha'Kahal") that - just as the second Kahal (which is written earlier) requires the participation of Beis-Din and the people in the error, so too, must they bring separate Korbanos (as we explained in our Mishnah).

(b)Rebbi Meir learns from the same Gezeirah-Shavah that if seven tribes followed Beis-Din's ruling, the latter bring only one bull - because he Darshens "ve'Ne'elam me'Einei ha'Kahal" with reference to the error alone, which pertains to the Beis-Din exclusively, and not to the Kahal).

5)

(a)We initially presume that the Tana Kama of the current Beraisa (Ve'nod'ah ha'Chatas) cannot be Rebbi Eliezer. What does Rebbi Eliezer (in another Beraisa) say about someone who knows that he ate either Cheilev or Nosar, but is not sure which one?

(b)Rav Ashi reconciles Rebbi Eliezer with the current Beraisa by citing the Pasuk "asher Chat'u alehah". What does he gain by that?

(c)We counter this by citing the Pasuk "asher Chata bah"(in connection with a regular Chatas). What is now the problem?

(d)How do we refute this Kashya? What does Rebbi Eliezer learn from "asher Chata bah"?

5)

(a)We initially presume that the Tana Kama of the current Beraisa ('Ve'nod'ah ha'Chatas') cannot be Rebbi Eliezer, who rules (in another Beraisa) that someone who knows that he ate either Cheilev or Nosar, but is not sure which one - is Chayav a Chatas 'mi'Mah Nafshach'.

(b)Rav Ashi reconciles Rebbi Eliezer with the current Beraisa by citing the Pasuk "asher Chat'u alehah", restricting the Gezeirah-Shavah to Shig'gas Hora'ah, in which case it does not extend to a regular Chatas.

(c)We counter this however, by citing the Pasuk "asher Chata bah" (in connection with a regular Chatas) - which has the same connotations.

(d)We refute this Kashya however, on the grounds that - Rebbi Eliezer learns from there 'P'rat le'Mis'asek' (that if someone means to performs an act that is permitted, and he inadvertently performs one that is forbidden, he is Patur).

6)

(a)What do we mean when, to explain Rebbi Yehudah's opinion, we refer to four times "Kahal"?

(b)The first of these comes to teach us that each tribe must bring a Chatas, and the second, that it is the Beis-Din who must issue the ruling and the Kahal who must act on it. The third "Kahal" comes to teach us G'reirah. What is 'G'reirah'?

(c)And what does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the fourth "Kahal"?

6)

(a)When, to explain Rebbi Yehudah's opinion, we refer to four times "Kahal", we mean - the two times by Shig'gas Hora'ah that the Torah writes "ha'Kahal" ... "me'Einei ha'Kahal" and "Ve'hikrivu ha'Kahal" (and which we Darshen 'Kahal, ha'Kahal, Kahal ha'Kahal').

(b)The first of these comes to teach us that each tribe must bring a Chatas, and the second, that it is the Beis-Din who must issue the ruling and the Kahal who must act on it. The third "Kahal" comes to teach us G'reirah - which means that each of the tribes that did not sin is also obligated to bring a bull.

(c)From the fourth "Kahal", Rebbi Yehudah learns that - each tribe is also obligated to bring a Chatas if it sins following the erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din.

7)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon, "me'Einei ha'Kahal" is not redundant. Why is that?

(b)This leaves him with only three times "Kahal". What does he learn from ...

1. ... the first of the remaining "Kahal" (to conform to Rebbi Yehudah)?

2. ... the remaining two "ha'Kahal" by way of a Gezeirah-Shavah?

7)

(a)According to Rebbi Shimon, "me'Einei ha'Kahal" is not redundant - since it (the extra 'Hey' in "Me'einei ha'Kahal") is a manner of speech.

(b)This leaves him with only three times "Kahal". He learns from ...

1. ... the first of the remaining "Kahal" that - each tribe is called Kahal and is therefore obligated to bring its own bull (like Rebbi Yehudah).

2. ... the remaining two "ha'Kahal" that - just as "me'Einei ha'Kahal" speaks about the Beis-Din (ha'Gadol) in conjunction with the tribes, so too, does "ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal" (and that the Beis-Din of the tribe is therefore obligated to bring a bull, too).

8)

(a)Rebbi Meir learns the Gezeirah-Shavah (differently than Rebbi Shimon) in that just as "me'Einei ha'Kahal" speaks exclusively about the Beis-Din [as we explained earlier], so too, does "ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal", and that Beis-Din alone is therefore obligated to bring a bull. Why does he only contend with two of the Kahals', and not four?

(b)What does Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar quoting Rebbi Meir, Darshen from the Pasuk in Sh'lach l'cha ...

1. ... "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah"?

2. ... "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah"?

(c)How does he reconcile the two D'rashos?

8)

(a)Rebbi Meir learns the Gezeirah-Shavah (differently than Rebbi Shimon) inasmuch as just as "me'Einei ha'Kahal" speaks exclusively about the Beis-Din [as we explained earlier], so too, does "ve'Hikrivu ha'Kahal", and that Beis-Din alone is therefore obligated to bring a bull. He only contends with two of the 'Kahals and not four - because he does not Darshen "Kahal", "ha'Kahal".

(b)Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar quoting Rebbi Meir Darshens from the Pasuk in Sh'lach l'cha ...

1. ... "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah" that - Beis-Din are obligated to bring a bull even if only the minority of the Kahal sinned.

2. ... "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah" that - they only bring it if the majority of K'lal Yisrael sinned.

(c)He reconciles the two D'rashos - by establishing the first Pasuk where seven tribes sinned, and the second Pasuk, where it was six.

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9)

(a)What does Abaye learn from the Pasuk in Sh'lach-l'cha "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah Ne'es'sah li'Shegagah" (according to Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Meir)?

(b)Rava learns it from the Pasuk there "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah" as well. Why does he need ...

1. ... this Pasuk too? Why will Abaye's Pasuk alone not suffice?

2. ... the Pasuk "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah" as well as this one?

(c)Both these Pesukim are written in connection with Avodah-Zarah. How will Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Meir apply all of this to Shig'gas Hora'ah by other Mitzvos?

9)

(a)Abaye learns from the Pasuk in Sh'lach-l'cha "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah Ne'es'sah li'Shegagah" that - even according to Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Meir, they only bring a Chatas if the Kahal sin following Beis-Din's erroneous ruling.

(b)Rava learns it also from the Pasuk there "Ki le'Chol ha'Am bi'Shegagah". He needs ...

1. ... this Pasuk too - to teach us that the Din of Shig'gas Hora'ah only applies if the majority of Yisrael sin.

2. ... the Pasuk "Ve'hayah Im me'Einei ha'Eidah") as well as this one - to teach us that it applies even though Beis-Din did not participate in the sin.

(c)Both these Pesukim are written in connection with Avodah-Zarah. Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Meir will apply all of this to Shig'gas Hora'ah by other Mitzvos - by means of the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "me'Einei" ("me'Einei ha'Kahal") "me'Einei" ("Ve'hayah Im me'Einei he'Eidah Ne'es'sah le'Shegagah").

10)

(a)We ask whether, according to Rebbi Yehudah, if Beis-Din ha'Gadol issue an erroneous ruling, and one tribe sins, each of the other tribes are obligated to bring a Par as well. What makes us think that maybe they don't?

(b)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two. Why can the Beraisa not be speaking about ...

1. ... seven tribes that sinned?

2. ... one tribe that sinned following the erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din?

(c)So how do we think the Beraisa must be speaking, to resolve our She'eilah?

(d)We refute this proof by establishing the Beraisa where six tribes comprising the majority sinned. Who will the Tana Kama then be?

(e)Under what circumstances does Rebbi Shimon then say that each tribe must bring its own bull?

10)

(a)We ask whether, according to Rebbi Yehudah, if Beis-Din ha'Gadol issue an erroneous ruling, and one tribe sins, each of the other tribes are obligated to bring a Par as well. The reason that maybe they don't is - because perhaps Rebbi Yehudah only says that they do if a majority of tribes sin.

(b)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two. The Beraisa cannot be speaking about ...

1. ... seven tribes that sinned - because then Rebbi Shimon would require eight bulls, and not just two.

2. ... one tribe that sinned following the erroneous ruling of its Beis-Din - because then he would not require any bulls at all (as we just learned).

(c)We therefore think that the Beraisa must be speaking - where one tribe sinned following the erroneous ruling of Beis-Fin ha'Gadol, and the Tana Kama is Rebbi Yehudah. So we see that Rebbi Yehudah does not obligate the other tribes to bring a bull if less than seven tribes sin.

(d)We refute the proof by establishing the Beraisa where six tribes comprising the majority of Yisrael sinned - and the Tana Kama is Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar.

(e)Rebbi Shimon obligates each tribe to bring its own bull - only if seven tribes comprising the majority of Yisrael sinned.

11)

(a)We resolve our She'eilah from a Beraisa. What distinction does Rebbi Yehudah there draw between a tribe that sinned followed an erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din and one that sinned following the erroneous ruling of the Beis-Din ha'Gadol?

(b)How does Rav Ashi support this from Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah, where (with regard to one tribe following an erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din) he says 'Oso Sheivet Chayav, ve'Sha'ar Kol ha'Shevatim Peturim'?

11)

(a)We resolve our She'eilah from Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, who draws a distinction between a tribe that sinned followed an erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din - obligating only that particular tribe to bring a bull, and one that sinned following the erroneous ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol - where he obligates each tribe to bring one.

(b)Rav Ashi support this from Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah, where (with regard to one tribe following an erroneous ruling of its own Beis-Din) he says 'Oso Sheivet Chayav, ve'Sha'ar Kol ha'Shevatim Peturim' - from the fact that having said 'Oso Shevet Chayav', it would have been unnecessary to add 've'Sha'ar Kol ha'Shevatim Peturim', unless it was to teach us the inference that in the same case, but where Beis-Din ha'Gadol were the ones to have erred, each tribe would indeed be obligated to bring its own bull.

12)

(a)We ask whether, according to Rebbi Shimon, one tribe that sins is obligated to bring a bull be'Shig'gas Hora'ah (bearing in mind that, according to him, one tribe is called 'Kahal'). What will they bring assuming that they are not?

(b)We try to resolve the She'eilah, citing the same Beraisa again, where the Tana Kama obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two, by establishing it when one tribe sins following the erroneous ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol. Focusing on the Tana Kama, why are we forced to reject this explanation?

(c)So how do we establish the Beraisa?

(d)We finally resolve the She'eilah from our Mishnah (with reference to Rebbi Yehudah, who obligates one tribe that sins following its Beis-Din's erroneous ruling) 'va'Chachamim Omrim Eino Chayav Ela al Hora'as Beis-Din ha'Gadol'. How do we know that the Chachamim is Rebbi Shimon and not Rebbi Meir?

12)

(a)We ask whether, according to Rebbi Shimon, one tribe that sins is obligated to bring a bull be'Shig'gas Hora'ah (bearing in mind that according to him, one tribe is called 'Kahal'). Assuming that they are not - they will be Patur from bringing anything, because one tribe has the Din of a Yachid, and we have a principle 'Yachid she'Asah be'Hora'as Beis-Din, Patur'.

(b)We try to resolve the She'eilah, citing the same Beraisa again, where the Tana Kama obligates one bull, and Rebbi Shimon two, by establishing it where one tribe sinned following the erroneous ruling of Beis-Din ha'Gadol. We are forced to reject this explanation however - because who would then be the Tana Kama, seeing as Rabbi Meir requires the majority of Yisrael to sin, and Rebbi Yehudah requires each tribe to bring its own bull.

(c)So we establish the Beraisa - where six tribes sinned, and the Tana Kama is Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar (as we just explained).

(d)We finally resolve the She'eilah from our Mishnah (with reference to Rebbi Yehudah, who obligates one tribe that sins following its Beis-Din's erroneous ruling) 'va'Chachamim Omrim Eino Chayav Ela al Hora'as Beis-Din ha'Gadol'. The Chachamim must be Rebbi Shimon and not Rebbi Meir - because Rebbi Meir requires the majority of Yisrael to sin.

13)

(a)What do we try to prove from the Pasuk in Divrei Hayamim "Vaya'amod Yehoshafat bi'Kehal Yehudah vi'Yerushalayim ... "?

(b)Rebbi Yochanan explains that "Lifnei Chatzer ha'Chadashah" in the same Pasuk, refers to a new decree. Which decree?

(c)On what grounds does Rav Acha bar Ya'akov reject the proof from there that one tribe is called Kahal?

13)

(a)We try to prove from the Pasuk in Divrei Hayamim "Vaya'amod Yehoshafat bi'Kehal Yehudah vi'Yerushalayim ... " - that one tribe is called Kahal (according to Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Shimon, and Rebbi Meir will not argue with this).

(b)Rebbi Yochanan explains that "Lifnei Chatzer ha'Chadashah" in the same Pasuk, refers to a new decree - namely, that a T'vul Yom (who has Toveled from his Tum'ah, and who is waiting for nightfall to become completely Tahor) is forbidden to enter the Machaneh Leviyah.

(c)Rav Acha bar Ya'akov rejects the proof from there that one tribe is called Kahal on the grounds - that Yehudah incorporates Binyamin, so perhaps it is only two tribes that are referred to as Kahal.

14)

(a)How does Rav Acha bar Ya'akov then prove it from the Pasuk in Vay'chi, where Ya'akov's quotes Hash-m as having said to him "Hin'ni Mafr'cha Ve'hirbisicha u'Nesaticha li'Kehal Amim"?

(b)Rav Sh'va asked Rav Kahana whether the Pasuk might not mean that when Binyamin was born, then the twelve tribes, who were called Kahal would be complete. What did Rav Kahana answer?

14)

(a)So Rav Acha bar Ya'akov proves that one tribe is called Kahal from the Pasuk in Vayechi "Hin'ni Mafr'cha Ve'hirbisicha u'Nesaticha li'Kehal Amim" - where Ya'akov is referring to Binyamin (the only one of his sons not yet born at the time) as Kahal.

(b)Rav Sh'va asked Rav Kahana whether the Pasuk might not mean that when Binyamin was born, then the twelve tribes, who were called Kahal would be complete. To which Rav Kahana answered in surprise - How can one suggest that twelve tribes are called 'Kahal' and not eleven?

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