12th Cycle Dedication

ERCHIN 12 - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs. Estanne Abraham Fawer to honor the twelfth Yahrzeit of her father, Rav Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Rabbi Morton Weiner) Z'L, who passed away on 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Dafyomi study -- which was so important to him -- during the weeks of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.

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TOSFOS DH NESACHIM HA'BA'IM BIFNEI ATZMAN TE'UNIN SHIRAH O LA'AV

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(Summary: Tosfos, citing Rashi, clarifies the She'eilah and elaborates.)

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Authentic Explanation: Rashi explains - the Nesachim of a Korban Tzibur which they did not bring on its day, but on the following one ...

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Source: As the Gemara Darshens in Menachos (Daf 44b) "u'Minchasam", 'up to ten days'.

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Refuted Explanation: One cannot explain it in connection with a Yachid who brought a Minchas Nesachim ...

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Reason: Because even if he brought them with his Korban they would not require Nesachim.

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Clarification: And it speaks where he brings it in the daytime ...

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Clarification (cont.): Because if he brings it in the night, Rebbi Elazar said 'Just as Kaparah is by day, so too, the Shirah.

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TOSFOS DH V'TISB'RA SHIRAH D'YOMEIH LA'HASH-M

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the Kashya.)

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Clarification: Because even if Nesachim that one brings on their own require Shirah, that would be the Shir that pertains to the day on which they are brought, and not the Shir that was due on the day that the Korban was brought.

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TOSFOS DH ME'CHAD B'SHAVU'A E'CHAD B'SHAVU'A

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the statement.)

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Clarification: It reckons backwards - fifteen years (See Avodah Berurah).

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TOSFOS DH AMAR RAVINA

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the statement.)

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Clarification: Fourteen years after the city was destroyed - i.e. the fifteenth year of the Churban, the Yovel occurred.

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TOSFOS DH I HACHI

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the Kashya.)

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Clarification: That it is the fifteenth year of the Churban, 'it is twenty-six years' - since Mar said 'They were exiled in the seventh' - i.e. of the capture of Yehoyakim, whom he (Nevuchadnetzar) captured in the fifth year (See Rashash) of his reign, and he reigned for eleven years ...

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Clarification (cont.): In that year Yehoyakim was killed and he crowned his son Yehoyachin for three months, and at the turn of that same year he exiled him to Bavel together with the Charash and the Masger ...

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Clarification (concl.): And that was when Yechezkel went into Galus.

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Clarification: 'They were exiled in the eighteenth year' - of the capture - which is the year that the city was destroyed.

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TOSFOS DH MI'SHEVA SHE'GALU BAH AD TAMNEISAR SHE'CHARVAH HA'IR

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the Kashya and elaborates.)

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Clarification: Not counting the eighteenth year itself, which belongs to the fifteen years, there are eleven years - since the seventh year in which they went into Galus, was the last year of Yehoyakim ...

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Clarification (cont.): After which Tzidkiyahu reigned for another ten years before the year of the Churban, plus fifteen years - add up to twenty-six.

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Gemara's Question: It would be fine had the Gemara said that it was the fourteenth year of the Churban - since fourtehen plus eleven make twenty-five ...

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Gemara's Question (cont.): But since it said that it was the fifteenth, there is a Kashya.

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Implied Question: The Gemara could actually have answered that the year in which they went into Galus was the first year`of Tzidkiyahu's reign, which would leave only ten years until the Galus ...

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Answer: Only they knew that this cannot be correct ...

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Reason: Since the Galus took place in the same year that was ascribed to Yehoyakim, leaving another eleven years.

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TOSFOS DH U'L'DIDACH MI NICHA

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the Kashya and elaborates.)

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Clarification: Indeed, they went into exile in the nineteenth year, that is when the city was destroyed ...

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Clarification (cont.): From seven till nineteen is twelve, and twelve plus fourteen equals twenty-six?

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Pertinent Question: According to the current theory that the eighteenth and the nineteenth constituted two exiles, it could ask that either the city was destroyed on the eighteenth or it was destroyed on the nineteenth?

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Answer: One cannot ask it however, since the Sugya is not a basic one.

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Conclusion: In any case, according to the Maskana, the question is no longer relevant.

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TOSFOS DH HAVA LEIH B'SHITA B'SHAVU'A

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the issue.)

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Clarification: The four hundred and twenty years concluded in the sixth year, and the Churban took place in the twenty-first year ...

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Proof: As is evident from the Sugya - that the second Churban did not occur until the twenty-first year, whereas the first Beis-ha'Mikdash was destroyed in the tenth year itself - as is clear in the entire Sugya.

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Conclusion: And when the Gemara says 'It transpires that it was destroyed at the beginning of the Yovel - it means in the Yovel itself, since the Churban took place in the four hundred and tenth year (Rashi).

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TOSFOS DH HANACH SHANIM D'AGLINHU SANCHERIV

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the text.)

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Clarifying Text: We do not have the text 'three years' ...

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Reason: Since many years elapsed - from the sixth year of Chizkiyahu till the seventeenth year of Yoshiyahu, when Yirmiyahu brought them back was close to a hundred years.

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Conclusion: Rashi queries this text further; it is erroneous.

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TOSFOS DH ELA TZEI ME'HEM SHEVA SHE'KIVSHU V'SHEVA SHE'CHILKU (This Dibur belongs before DH 'Hanach').

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(Summary: Tosfos explains the Kashya and adds another one.)

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Clarification: Leaving thirty-six, and in that year the city was destroyed - which was on Motza'ei Shevi'is ...

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Clarification (cont.): And if Rebbi Yehudah includes another seventeen years from seventeen Yovlos, making a total of fifth-three years - it (the Churban) would have been on Tuesday?

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Additional Question: The Gemara could just as well have asked that, according to Rebbi Yehudah, how would we explain the Pasuk in Yechezkel that the Yovel fell in the fourteenth year after the Churban.

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TOSFOS DH HANACH SH'NEI D'AGLINHU SANCHERIV AD D'ASA YIRMIYAHU V'AHADRINHU LO KA'CHASHIV

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(Summary: Tosfos clarifies the answer and elaborates.)

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Clarification: He returned them in the eighteenth year of Yoshiyahu ...

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Clarification (cont.): And since it reckons it for Yoshiyahu, who reigned for thirty-one years, plus the twenty-two years of Yehoykim and Tzidkiyahu, youi have your thirty-six years, in which year it was destroyed.

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Question: In that case, how can the Beraisa say that 'If you say they counted as soon as they entered, it would emerge that the Bayis was destroyed at the beginning of the Yovel? ...

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Question (cont.): That is not correct, because when they went into exile, they stopped counting the Yovlos, and they only resumed counting them and sanctifying them when they returned ...

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Question (concl.): At which point only thirty-six years remained until the Churban?

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Answer: Tosfos Rebbe replied that the Beraisa in question goes like the Rabbanan, who maintain that the fiftieth year is not counted in the Sh'nitin ...

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Answer (cont.): And according to them, when they went into exile, granted they did not count Yovlos to sanctify them; they did however count and sanctify the Shemitin ...

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Answer (cont.): And they counted the Yovlos in order to sanctify the Sh'mitin ...

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Source: For so the Gemara says in this Masechta 'They only counted the Yovlos in order to sanctify the Sh'mitin' ...

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Answer (cont.): In that case, when Yirmiyahu brought them back, they did not begin counting the Yovel afresh, but rather they continued according to the Cheshbon that they were already counting

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Answer (concl.): Hence the Gemara says that if they counted as soon as they entered, the Beis-ha'Mikdash would have been destroyed in the Yovel.

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Rebbi Yehudah: But according to Rebbi Yehudah, who holds that the fiftieth year itself is counted in the Sh'mitin, and during the years that the Ten Tribes were in exile, they did not count at all, neither the Sh'mitin nor the Yovlos ...

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Rebbi Yehudah (cont.): It will transpire that when Yirmiyahu returned them and Yovel took effect, they would have needed to start counting afresh.

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