More Discussions for this daf
1. Tefilas Hashlamah 2. Ma'ariv after Plag Ha'Minchah on Erev Shabbos 3. Building Bathrooms Like the Persians
4. Time for Praying Shacharis 5. Keri'as Shema before Plag ha'Minchah 6. Origin Of Davening As We Know It
7. Shachar 8. Starting times of Tefilot 9. Mei Raglayim
10. Rebbi Yehudah and Plag ha'Minchah 11. Rebbi Yehudah and Plag ha'Minchah 12. Tashlumin
13. Minchah 14. korbonos 15. Musaf until 7 hours according to Rabbi Yehudah
16. Korbanos 17. Rebbi Yehudah's opinion about Shacharis 18. Tosfos DH Tefilas ha'Shachar
19. דרכו של רש״י בתחילת פרק 20. ש"ץ שטעה ביום תענית 21. מחלוקת רבנן ור' יהודה בזמן תפילת מוסף
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 26

Howard Jackson asked:

SHalom!

I study Mishnah Berachot with a Chavruta and we try to ask questions and come up with answers regarding the Mishnah. We cannot understand Rabbi Yehudah's rationale in Mishnah Berachot 4:1. Can you suggest his rationale why Musaf must be prayed before 7 hours?

Bivracha!

Howard Jackson & David Josephs

Howard Jackson, London, UK

The Kollel replies:

As you will have seen from the current Mishnayos that you are learning, the times of all the Tefilos follow the times that the equivalent Korbanos were brought in the Beis-Hamikdash.

Based on that premise, we can solve your problem with a Tosfos on 28a DH 've'Shel'. The Gemara in Pesachim cited by this Tosfos informs us that the Musaf-offering was brought in the sixth hour (from midday) and the Bazichin (the Avodah that followed it), in the seventh. In other words, the Kohanim in the Beis-Hamikdash brought the Musaf between midday and one hour after midday. So that is the end time for Tefilas Musaf according to Rebbi Yehudah.

Incidentally, even Rebbi Yehudah agrees that Bedi'eved, one can Daven Musaf the whole day.

Eliezer Chrysler