More Discussions for this daf
1. Tefilas Hashlamah 2. Ma'ariv after Plag Ha'Minchah on Erev Shabbos 3. Building Bathrooms Like the Persians
4. Time for Praying Shacharis 5. Keri'as Shema before Plag ha'Minchah 6. Origin Of Davening As We Know It
7. Shachar 8. Starting times of Tefilot 9. Mei Raglayim
10. Rebbi Yehudah and Plag ha'Minchah 11. Rebbi Yehudah and Plag ha'Minchah 12. Tashlumin
13. Minchah 14. korbonos 15. Musaf until 7 hours according to Rabbi Yehudah
16. Korbanos 17. Rebbi Yehudah's opinion about Shacharis 18. Tosfos DH Tefilas ha'Shachar
19. דרכו של רש״י בתחילת פרק 20. ש"ץ שטעה ביום תענית 21. מחלוקת רבנן ור' יהודה בזמן תפילת מוסף
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 26

Harold Jitschak Bueno de Mesquita asks:

The Gemara said (taken from the Point by Point):

(a) The Persian bathrooms were considered covered - even when there was Tzo'ah in them, and it was permitted to recite the Shema in front of them.

(b) That is because the hole was situated at the end of a slope, so that the Tzo'ah would roll away and end up out of sight and of smell.

What could have been the reason that the Jews did not adopt this simple chochmat goyim to build their bathrooms the same way??

Harold Jitschak Bueno de Mesquita, Jerusalem

The Kollel replies:

1. It may be that some Jews did adopt this design. They were sufficiently widespread to justify the Shulchan Aruch's (OC 83:4) mentioning of what the Halachah is for these bathrooms.

2. However, it appears that many Yisraelim did not use this model. We see this from Talmidei Rabeinu Yonah (page 17b of the pages of the Rif, paragraph beginning Batei Kisa'ei), who cites Rabeinu Hai Ga'on who says that the Persian bathrooms were on a slope so that the fluids ran away immediately, while in contrast our bathrooms are not on a slope. I would suggest that the Persian bathrooms required somewhat deep digging in the ground and therefore may often have been difficult to engineer in practice.

Kol Tuv,

D. Bloom