1)

THE STATUS OF THE OIL

(a)

Question: The Shirayim must be eaten, but oil was added after the Kometz was separated, and nothing permits the addition (and it is mixed with the Shirayim)!

(b)

Answer: We redeem the addition.

(c)

Question: Where do we redeem it?

1.

If we redeem it in the Azarah, it becomes Chulin b'Azarah;

2.

If we redeem it outside the Azarah (and it was needed for Taharas Metzora, it is Kodshei Kodoshim), it becomes Pasul once it leaves the Azarah!

(d)

Answer: Really, we redeem it in the Azarah. We did not enter Chulin into the Azarah. We entered Kodshim and redeemed it. It became Chulin automatically by itself!

(e)

Question: R. Shimon holds that one may not bring a Nedavah of oil! (Tosfos - presumably, he forbids it mid'Rabanan.)

(f)

Answer: This is permitted for the man's Tikun.

(g)

Question (Rav Huna bar Tachlifa): He should stipulate that if he does not need Asham Metzora, it is an Asham Taluy (instead of Shelamim, for then we do not waste Kodshim. Also Asham Taluy is eaten only one day and a night!)

(h)

Conclusion (Rav Huna): R. Shimon must hold like the Chachamim who argue with R. Eliezer. They say that one brings Asham Taluy only when he has a real Safek that he transgressed Kares. It may not be brought voluntarily!

(i)

Rejection (Ravina): Such a stipulation is impossible. Asham Taluy must be in its second year, but Asham Metzora must be in its first year!

2)

LIMBS THAT BECAME MIXED

(a)

(Mishnah - R. Eliezer): If limbs of a Chatas were mixed with limbs of an Olah, we burn all of them on the Mizbe'ach. (Even though one may not burn limbs of a Chatas l'Shem Re'ach Nicho'ach,) we consider the Chatas to be like wood;

(b)

Chachamim say, we wait for Ibur Tzurah (the next day, when they are Nosar), then all are burned in Beis ha'Sereifah (a place in the Mikdash for burning Pasul Kodshim).

(c)

(Gemara) Question: What is R. Eliezer's reason?

(d)

Answer: "V'El ha'Mizbe'ach Lo Ya'alu l'Re'ach Nicho'ach" - you may not offer on the Mizbe'ach (anything the Torah is not Machshir for a Korban) for Re'ach Nicho'ach, but it may be burned l'Shem Etzim.

(e)

Chachamim expound "Osam" - only Chametz and honey are forbidden l'Re'ach Nicho'ach and permitted l'Shem Etzim. Other things are forbidden even l'Shem Etzim.

1.

R. Eliezer expounds "Osam" - the ramp ("El ha'Mizbe'ach") is considered like the Mizbe'ach only regarding (the Isur of offering) Chametz and honey, but not regarding other things.

2.

Chachamim expound both from "Osam".

(f)

Our Mishnah is unlike the following Tana.

1.

(Beraisa - R. Yehudah): R. Eliezer and Chachamim agree that we offer a mixture of Chatas and Olah limbs;

2.

They agree that if limbs of a Rove'a or Nirva were mixed limbs of a Kosher Olah, they are not offered;

3.

They argue about limbs of two Olos, a Tam and a Ba'al Mum, that were mixed together;

i.

R. Eliezer says that we offer both. We consider the limbs of the Ba'al Mum to be like wood;

ii.

Chachamim forbid offering either.

(g)

Question: R. Eliezer forbids when a Rove'a or Nirva was mixed with a Kosher Korban, for the former may not be offered. Also a Ba'al Mum may not be offered!

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(h)

Answer #1 (Rav Huna): The Mum discussed is Dukin (a film) in the eye. R. Eliezer holds like R. Akiva, who says that if such an animal was brought up the ramp, we offer it.

1.

Question: R. Akiva permits only b'Di'eved, if it was already brought up the ramp. He does not permit offering it l'Chatchilah!

2.

Answer (Rav Papa): Indeed, R. Eliezer and Chachamim argue in a case that the animals were already brought up the ramp.

(i)

Objection: If so, they should argue about offering such a Ba'al Mum without a mixture!

(j)

Answer #2: R. Eliezer learns from "Mum Bam" - one may not offer a Ba'al Mum by itself, but it may be offered among a mixture;

1.

Chachamim expound "Mum Bam" - one may not offer while the Mum is there, but if the Mum goes away, it is permitted;

2.

R. Eliezer learns both laws from this, for the Torah wrote "Bam" instead of "Bahem";

3.

Chachamim hold that this does not warrant learning a second law.

(k)

Question: If so, why does R. Eliezer say that we consider the limbs of the Ba'al Mum to be like wood? The Torah absolutely permits it (in the mixture)!

(l)

Answer: He addresses Chachamim according to their reasoning;

1.

I absolutely permit it. I learn from "Mum Bam." Granted, you expound this differently, but you should agree that it may be offered like wood, just like (you agree about) limbs of a Chatas!

2.

Chachamim forbid. Limbs of a Chatas are not despised, limbs of a Ba'al Mum are despised.

(m)

(Mishnah - R. Eliezer): If limbs of Olos Kesheros became mixed with limbs of a Ba'al Mum, if one of the heads was offered, we offer all of them. If the Kerayim (bottoms of the legs) of one of them were offered, we offer all of them;

(n)

Chachamim say, even if all of them except for one were offered, the remaining one is burned in Beis ha'Sereifah.

(o)

(Gemara - R. Elazar): R. Eliezer only permits offering two at a time (since one of them is surely Kosher, we assume that the other is also), but not one at a time.

(p)

Question (R. Yirmeyah - Mishnah - Chachamim): Even if all of them except for one were offered, the remaining one is burned in Beis ha'Sereifah (this implies that R. Eliezer argues, and permits offering the last one)!

(q)

Answer (R. Yirmeyah bar Tachlifa): They mean that even if all of them except for one pair were offered, the remaining pair is burned in Beis ha'Sereifah.

3)

BLOOD THAT BECAME MIXED

(a)

(Mishnah): If blood became mixed with water, if it still looks like blood, it is Kosher (for Zerikah).

(b)

If it became mixed with wine, we consider the wine to be like water (i.e. it is as if the blood became mixed with an equal amount of water)

(c)

If it became mixed with blood of a (Chulin) Behemah or Chayah, we consider the blood to be like water.

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