SUKAH 24 (22 Av 5781) - Dedicated in memory of Frumet bas Meier (born Ehrmann) of Kiel, Germany and New York, by her nephew, Ze'ev Rosenbaum.

1)

(a)Which tithes is one obligated to separate from crops or wine that one purchased from Kutim?

(b)Why does the Tana mention specifically Kutim (and not an Am ha'Aretz)?

(c)On what grounds does the Tana of this Mishnah in Demai permit the wine of Kutim in the first place? Did the Chachamim not issue a decree giving them the status of Nochrim in all respects?

1)

(a)One was obligated to separate Terumah, Ma'aser Rishon and Ma'aser Sheni from crops or wine that one purchased from Kutim.

(b)The Tana mentions specifically the Kutim - to teach us that they are even less trustworthy that Amei-ha'Aretz, from whose produce one would not need to separate Terumah (because they are afraid of the Chiyuv Misah that goes with it, and we take it for granted that they separated it).

(c)The Tana permits the wine of Kutim - because this Mishnah was written before Chazal decreed on them.

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir, how would someone who purchased a hundred Lugin of wine from the Kutim (shortly before Shabbos, or if he did not have any Tahor vessels into which to place the tithes) declare the Terumos and Ma'asros?

(b)What is Rebbi Meir's underlying principle?

(c)Rebbi Yehudah, Rebbi Yosi and Rebbi Shimon disagree; they forbid separating the Ma'asros in advance. What reason do we initially give for this?

(d)What problem does this create for Abaye, who established one Mishnah in Gitin like Rebbi Meir, and the other, like Rebbi Yehudah?

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Meir, someone who purchased a hundred Lugin of wine from the Kutim (shortly before Shabbos, or if he had no Tahor vessels into which to place the tithes) - by stating that the two Lugin that he will declare Terumah; the ten Lugin (meaning 9 4/5), Ma'aser, and the nine Lugin (meaning 8.9), Ma'aser Sheni, from the wine that he intends to leave at the end, are effective as from now. The Ma'aser Sheni he must redeem immediately on a coin.

(b)Rebbi Meir's underlying principle is - 'Yesh Bereirah' (What he later leaves over will retroactively turn out to be the tithes that he initially designated, but without having specified their exact location).

(c)Initially, we think that Rebbi Yehudah, Rebbi Yosi and Rebbi Shimon forbid separating the Ma'asros in advance - because of the fear that the flask might break (in which case, he will have drunk Tevel).

(d)Accordingly, they will certainly contend with the possibility that the animal might die on Yom-Tov - a Kashya on Abaye, who said earlier that Rebbi Yehudah is not worried about the animal dying!

3)

(a)To conform with Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah's opinions (with regard to using an animal for a Sukah), we invert Abaye's answer, to establish the Mishnah in Gitin which is concerned that the husband may have died, like Rebbi Meir, and the Mishnah which is not, like Rebbi Yehudah. Why then, is Rebbi Meir not worried that the flask may break?

(b)And if Rebbi Yehudah is not concerned that the Kohen may have died, then why does he not permit taking tithes from the wine that one bought from the Kutim, in advance?

(c)If, as we just explained, Rebbi Yehudah is not worried that the flask may break, then why does he use that as an argument in querying Rebbi Meir?

(d)And if he is not concerned about the Kohen dying, why does he require the Kohen Gadol on Yom Kippur to prepare another wife, in case his wife dies?

3)

(a)To conform with Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah's opinions (with regard to using an animal for a Sukah), we invert Abaye's answer, to establish the Mishnah in Gitin which is concerned that the husband may have died, like Rebbi Meir, and the Mishnah which is not, like Rebbi Yehudah. Nevertheless, Rebbi Meir is not worried that the flask may break - because everybody dies eventually, whereas not all flasks break.

(b)Even though Rebbi Yehudah is not concerned that the Kohen may have died, he nevertheless forbids the taking of tithes from the wine that one bought from the Kutim, in advance, not because the flask might break, but - because he holds 'Ein Bereirah'.

(c)Rebbi Yehudah himself is not worried that the flask may break, yet he used that as an argument when querying Rebbi Meir, because Rebbi Meir is concerned that a person may die - so he asked him whether, even if he held 'Yesh Bereirah', would he not at least admit that, just as a person may die within a given period, so too, the flask may break, and the wine should be forbidden!

(d)And even though he is not concerned about the Kohen dying, he does require the Kohen Gadol on Yom Kippur to prepare another wife, in case his wife dies - because Chazal were particularly stringent by the Kaparah on Yom Kippur.

4)

(a)We learned above, that Rebbi Meir disqualifies an animal from being used as a Mechitzah, because we are afraid that either it might die or it might run away. What is the problem with both of these reasons from the Mishnah in Eruvin, which precludes an animal from the Din of a Golel (the cover of a grave)?

(b)What is the basic reason for choosing to ask from the Mishnah in Eruvin rather than from the Beraisa, which we cited earlier, where we learnt exactly the same thing?

(c)What alternative reason do we give for that?

4)

(a)We learned above, that Rebbi Meir disqualifies an animal from being used as a Mechitzah, because we are afraid, either that it will die, or that it will run away. This means that min ha'Torah, an animal is a good Mechitzah - clashing with the Stam Mishnah in Eruvin, which disqualifies an animal from being used as a Golel (which, as we explained above, is a leniency, inasmuch as it is not Metamei). How can a Rabbinical decree remove the animal's power to be Metamei?

(b)We choose to ask from a Mishnah in Eruvin rather than from the Beraisa, which we cited earlier, where we learnt exactly the same thing - because it is preferable to ask from a Mishnah than from a Beraisa.

(c)Alternatively, because the Mishnah specifically says that the animal is Tahor, whereas the Beraisa only says that it is not eligible to be used as a Golel.

5)

(a)Finally, Rav Acha bar Yakov explains that Rebbi Meir disqualifies an animal from serving as a Mechitzah mid'Oraisa, due to the fact that anything that only stands through air (and not under its own steam) is not called a Mechitzah (since air is an abstract entity). What is his alternative explanation?

(b)What is the difference between the two opinions?

5)

(a)Finally, we explain that Rebbi Meir disqualifies an animal from serving as a Mechitzah mid'Oraisa, due to the fact that anything that only stands on account of air (and not under its own steam) is not called a Mechitzah - alternatively, because a Mechitzah needs to be man-made (whereas the air inside the animal that causes it to stand was not placed there manually).

(b)The difference between the two opinions will be - if one used a flask that was blown up manually, which on the one hand, is abstract, but on the other, it was blown up by man.

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6)

(a)What does Rebbi Yosi ha'Gelili learn from the Pasuk in Ki Setzei ...

1. ... "v'Kasav Lah Sefer Kerisus"?

2. ... "Sefer"?

(b)Why do the Rabanan disagree with Rebbi Yosi ha'Gelili?

(c)How do they Darshen "Sefer Kerisus"?

(d)From "v'Kasav", the Rabanan learn that a woman can only be divorced through a Get, but not with money. Why would we have thought otherwise?

6)

(a)Rebbi Yosi Hagelili learns from the Pasuk ...

1. ... "v'Kasav Lah Sefer Kerisus" - that a Get is Kasher even if it is written on something other than a parchment scroll.

2. ... "Sefer" - that it cannot be written on an animal.

(b)The Rabanan disagree with Rebbi Yosi Hagelili - because the Torah does not write "v'Kasav ba'Sefer", but "v'Kasav Sefer" (in which case the Torah is clearly not referring to the surface on which the Get is written).

(c)They therefore Darshen from "Sefer" that the husband must write down the words that separate them ("Sefer Kerisus").

(d)From "v'Kasav", they learn that a woman can only be divorced with a Get, but not with money - otherwise, we would have applied the Hekesh "v'Yatz'ah v'Hayesah", which compares a divorce to a betrothal (where money is effective).

7)

(a)Rebbi Yosi Hagelili learns from "Sefer Kerisus" what the Rabanan just learned from "v'Kasav". How does he do that?

(b)What do the Rabanan learn from "Sefer Kerisus"?

(c)What will be the Din if a man gives his wife a Get on the condition that she does not drink wine or go to her father's house ...

1. ... forever?

2. ... for thirty days?

(d)Rebbi Yosi ha'Gelili learns that too, from the plural of "Kares/Kerisus". How do the Rabanan explain "Kares/Kerisus"?

7)

(a)Rebbi Yosi Hagelili learns from "Sefer Kerisus" what the Rabanan just learned from "v'Kasav" (that a woman can only be divorced with a Get, but not with money) - because he Darshens 'Sefer Korsah, v'Ein Davar Acher Korsah'.

(b)The Rabanan learn from "Sefer Kerisus" - 'Davar ha'Kores Beino l'Veinah' (that the Get must sever the connection between them completely - that they must not remain connected permanently).

(c)If a man gives his wife a Get on condition that she does not drink wine or go to her father's house ...

1. ... forever - she is not divorced (because she remains permanently bound to him).

2. ... for thirty days - she is divorced (because in thirty days' time, their connection will be severed completely).

(d)Rebbi Yosi Hagelili learns that too, from the plural of "Kares/Kerisus". According to the Rabanan - "Kareis/Kerisus" implies only one Derashah and not two.

8)

(a)The Mishnah validates a Sukah whose walls consist of trees. How do we reconcile this with Rav Acha bar Yakov, who invalidates any wall that flaps around in a regular wind?

(b)What about the branches?

(c)What is the Chidush of this Mishnah? Why do we need a Mishnah to teach us that such a Sukah is Kasher?

8)

(a)The Mishnah validates a Sukah whose walls consist of trees. According to Rav Acha bar Yakov (with whom nobody seems to argue), who invalidates any wall that moves in a regular wind - our Mishnah is speaking about a thick tree-trunk, that is not affected by the wind.

(b)It will also be necessary to weave the branches together, to ensure that they do flap about.

(c)The Chidush of the Mishnah is that Chazal do not decree that one may come to place things in the tree.

9)

(a)Is a tree eligible to serve as a Deyumad (by Pasei Bira'os)?

(b)The same condition applies to carrying under a large tree on Shabbos, whose wide-spread branches sag to within three Tefachim from the ground. Seeing as the Mechitzah is now man-made, why is it not considered 'Hukaf l'Dirah' (to permit carrying underneath it, even if it covers an area of more than a Beis Se'asayim (approx. 5,000 square Amos)?

9)

(a)A tree is eligible to serve as a Deyumad - under the same conditions as it is eligible to serve as a wall of a Sukah.

(b)The same condition applies to carrying under a large tree on Shabbos, whose widespread branches sag to within three Tefachim from the ground. In spite of the fact that the Mechitzah is now man-made, it is not considered 'Hukaf l'Dirah' (to permit carrying underneath it, even if it covers an area of more than a Beis Se'asayim - because it is not made for living within its confines, but in order to guard the fields that are outside it (and that is not considered 'Hukaf l'Dirah').

10)

(a)If, when Shabbos enters, a traveler finds himself beside a mound of earth ten Tefachim high (or a pit ten Tefachim deep), that covers an area which is more than four by four Amos but less than a Beis Se'asayim, how much of this area is he permitted to traverse?

(b)Then why does the Tana mention specifically more than four Amos?

(c)The third case mentioned in the Beraisa, is when a person finds himself in an area where the crops have been cut, and which is surrounded by standing corn. How do we query Rav Acha bar Yakov from here?

(d)How do we resolve the problem?

10)

(a)If, when Shabbos enters, a traveler finds himself beside a mound of earth ten Tefachim high (or a pit ten Tefachim deep), that covers an area which is more than four by four Amos but less than a Beis Se'asayim - he is permitted to walk the entire area.

(b)The Tana mentions specifically more than four Amos - because less than that, he is permitted to walk whatever the circumstances.

(c)The third case mentioned in the Beraisa, is when a person finds himself in an area where the crops have been cut, and which is surrounded by standing corn - even though the standing corn moves about in the wind (a Kashya on Rav Acha bar Yakov).

(d)We resolve the problem here too - by establishing the Beraisa when he weaves the tops of the standing corn together in such a way that it can no longer flap about in the wind.

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