1)

(a)In similar style to the previous She'eilah, Rava asks 'Talah Atzmo be'Avir Azarah Mahu'? What are the two sides of the She'eilah?

(b)Is it speaking 'K'dei Hishtachavayah or not?

(c)What does Rav Ashi then ask, assuming that Meizid requires Shehiyah like Shogeg?

1)

(a)In similar style to the previous She'eilah, Rava asks 'Talah Atzmo be'Avir Azarah Mahu?' - whether the Shehiyah must contain a potential Hishtachavayah (which passing through in the air does not), or whether the Halachah incorporates all cases of Tum'ah in the Azarah, irrespective of whether Hishtachavayah is possible or not.

(b)In any case, 'k'Dei Hishtachavayah' is most certainly crucial, so the She'eilah speaks when he did indeed wait that length of time in the Azarah after becoming Tamei.

(c)Assuming that Meizid requires Shehiyah like Shogeg does, Rav Ashi then asks - whether the Halachah pertains exclusively to someone who became Tamei be'Oneis, or whether it extends even to someone who did so be'Meizid.

2)

(a)Rav Ashi asks further whether a Nazir who became Tamei be'Oneis in a Beis ha'Kevaros also requires a K'dei Shehiyah. What is the case that renders him an Oneis?

(b)What is the She'eilah? Why might the Shiur ...

1. ... not pertain to him?

2. ... pertain to him too?

(c)Why do we take for granted that this She'eilah is confined to Malkos, and does not pertain to a Korban ...

1. ... Chatas?

2. ... Oleh ve'Yored?

(d)What is the outcome of the last three She'eilos?

(e)What are now the four criteria for Shehiyah K'dei Hishtachavayah that we do not know?

2)

(a)Rav Ashi asks further whether a Nazir who became Tamei be'Oneis in a Beis ha'Kevaros also requires a K'dei Shehiyah. The case is - where he entered in a covered wagon which prevented him from becoming Tamei, and his friend then removed the roof of the wagon, rendering Him Tamei be'Oneis.

(b)The She'eilah is - that on the one hand, the Shi'ur might ...

1. ... not pertain to him - because it is confined to Tum'ah in the Azarah, whereas on the other it might ...

2. ... pertain to him too - because the criterion of the Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai is 'Tum'ah be'Oneis', irrespective of where it took place.

(c)We take for granted that this She'eilah is confined to Malkos, and does not to pertain to a Korban ...

1. ... Chatas, since a Tamei Nazir is not Chayav Kareis be'Meizid, and is therefore not Chayav a Chatas be'Shogeg.

2. ... Oleh ve'Yored, and the Korban that he does bring is to enable him to begin his Nezirus Taharah (and not as a Kaparah).

(d)The outcome of the last three She'eilos is also 'Teiku'.

(e)The four criteria for Shehiyah K'dei Hishtachavayah that we do not know are - a Korban, Hishtachavayah, Oneis or being inside the Azarah.

3)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if the Tamei person leaves the Azarah via the shortest route, he is Patur from a Korban. Will the amount of time it takes him to leave make any difference?

(b)Rava asks whether the Shehiyos will combine. Why can we not resolve this She'eilah from his previous statement?

(c)Abaye asked Rabah what the Din will be if the Tamei person leaves the Azarah via the longest route, but so fast that it takes him the same amount of time as it have had he left via the shortest route walking. Why might he be Patur in such a case?

(d)What did Rabah reply?

3)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if the Tamei person leaves the Azarah via the shortest route, he is Patur from a Korban - irrespective of how long it takes him to leave, as Rava taught 'even if he takes goose-steps; even if it takes him all day'.

(b)Rava asks whether the Shehiyos will combine. We cannot resolve this She'eilah from his previous statement - because he is speaking there where the Tamei person did not stop at all.

(c)Abaye asked Rabah what the Din will be if the Tamei person leaves the Azarah via the longest route, but so fast that it takes him the same amount of time as it have had he left via the shortest route walking. He might be Patur - because perhaps the long route that Moshe was told on Har Sinai referred to the time it takes to leave via the long route (i.e. the criterion is time, not distance).

(d)Rabah replied - that when Hash-m gave Moshe the Shi'ur of 'the long route', he meant specifically that, and the speed with which he leaves via that route, will not detract from the Chiyuv Korban.

4)

(a)Rebbi Zeira queried Rabah from the Din of 'Tamei she'Shimesh be'Misah'. What is the difference between the Chiyuv of a Tamei who served and one who was Metamei the Azarah without serving?

(b)Why must the case be one where the Kohen became Tamei in the Azarah?

(c)What is then Rebbi Zeira's Kashya on Rabah?

(d)Why would there be no problem if the criterion was the Shi'ur?

4)

(a)Rebbi Zeira queried Rabah from the Din of 'Tamei she'Shimesh be'Misah' - which is a lesser Chiyuv than that of a Tamei who was Metamei the Azarah (without serving), who is Chayav Kareis.

(b)The case must be one where the Kohen became Tamei in the Azarah - because if he entered when he was already Tamei, he would immediately be Chayav Kareis (and there would be no possibility of then becoming Chayav Misah).

(c)Rebbi Zeira's Kashya on Rabah is - that even if he became Tamei in the Azarah, what sort of Avodah could he perform without stopping 'K'dei Hishtachavayah' (to become Chayav Kareis)?

(d)There would be no problem if the criterion was the Shi'ur, because then he could quickly perform an Avodah and run from the Azarah via a short route (taking less time than he would have done had he exited walking).

5)

(a)Abaye refutes Rebbi Zeira's Kashya by citing a ruling of Rav Huna. What did Rav Huna say about turning over a burning limb on the Mizbe'ach with a fork?

(b)How will this answer the Kashya on Rabah?

(c)We have a problem in establishing Rav Huna, however. What is the problem assuming that the limb ...

1. ... would not have burned had he not turned it over?

2. ... would have burned anyway?

(d)So how do we finally establish Rav Huna's case? What is the Chidush?

5)

(a)Abaye refutes Rebbi Zeira's Kashya by citing a ruling of Rav Huna - who obligates a Zar who turns over a limb burning on the Mizbe'ach with a large fork.

(b)This will answer the Kashya on Rabah - because it is possible to turn over a limb on the Mizbe'ach even whilst he is on his way out of the Azarah, without stopping (providing us with a case where the Tamei Kohen is Chayav Misah for performing an Avodah, but not for being Metamei the Azarah).

(c)We have a problem in establishing Rav Huna, however. Assuming that the limb ...

1. ... would not have burned had he not turned it over - then it is obvious (that he has performed a complete Avodah).

2. ... would have burned anyway - then why should he be Chayav (seeing as he didn't do anything?

(d)We finally establish Rav Huna's case - where he hastened the burning process, and the Chidush is that in itself, is considered an Avodah.

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6)

(a)What Chidush did Rebbi (or Rav) Oshaya want to declare about someone who enters a house that was stricken with Tzara'as, backwards?

(b)Why was he so hesitant about saying it?

(c)Rava allayed his fears however, by quoting the Pasuk in Tazri'a "ve'Lo Yitma Kol asher ba'Bayis"? What is the Pasuk referring to?

(d)What does Rava prove from there?

6)

(a)Rebbi (or Rav) Oshaya wanted to declare that if someone enters a house that was stricken with Tzara'as, backwards - except for his nose, he is Tahor, because he did not enter the house in the conventional manner. Note, that if he entered the house forwards, he would be Chayav as soon as the majority of him was in the house.

(b)The reason that he was so hesitant about saying it was - because if that were so, then even if his nose was in the house too, he ought to be Patur (presumably, he had a tradition that it wasn't, but didn't know why).

(c)Rava allayed his fears however, by quoting the Pasuk in Tazri'a "ve'Lo Yitma Kol asher ba'Bayis" - which teaches us that all the vessels in the house become Tamei too (therefore the Torah is advising the owner to take everything outside, before the Kohen arrives and declares the house Tamei).

(d)Rava proves from here - that one does not need to actually enter the house after it became Tamei in order to become Tamei. So if someone entered the house backwards (but including his nose) it would be no worse than the Keilim that are already in the house.

7)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about ...

1. ... eating Kodshei Kodshim on the roof of the Azarah?

2. ... Shechting Kodshim Kalim there?

(b)What is the reason for these two rulings?

(c)And what does the Tana say about a Tamei person who enters the Heichal via the roof, based on the Pasuk in Tazri'a "ve'el ha'Mikdash Lo Savo"?

(d)What do we prove from here?

7)

(a)The Beraisa rules that neither may ...

1. ... a Kohen eat Kodshei Kodshim on the roof of the Azarah. Nor may one ...

2. ... Shecht Kodshim Kalim there ...

(b)... because the roof does not have the Kedushah of the Azarah.

(c)The Tana also - exempts a Tamei person who enters the Heichal via the roof from Kareis, because the Pasuk writes "ve'el ha'Mikdash Lo Savo", in which case one is only Chayav after making a conventional entry.

(d)We prove from here - that someone who enters a Tamei house backwards (minus his nose as we explained) will be Patur, since there too, the Torah writes "*ve'ha'Ba* el ha'Bayis" (implying conventional entry).

8)

(a)After discussing the Din of someone who became Tamei in the Azarah, the Tana concludes 'Zu hi Mitzvas Asei she'be'Mikdash she'Ein Chayavin Alehah'. What is the Tana referring to that he writes such a Lashon?

(b)Why does the Mishnah refer specifically to the Chiyuvim and the Peturim of Tum'as Mikdash and Nidah? What do they have in common?

8)

(a)After discussing the Din of someone who became Tamei in the Azarah, the Tana concludes 'Zu hi Mitzvas Asei she'be'Mikdash she'Ein Chayavin Alehah'. The Tana is referring to - the Mishnah in Hori'os, which we will now discuss.

(b)The Mishnah refers specifically to the Chiyuvim and the Peturim of Tum'as Mikdash and Nidah - since both have an Asei and a Lo Sa'aseh (the Isur of entering, and the obligation to exit in a specific way).

9)

(a)To whom is the Tana referring when he writes 'Ein Chayavin al Asei ve'al Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash'?

(b)Seeing as the Sanhedrin bring a Par He'elam Davar on an Asei and a Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Nidah, why are they not also obligated to bring one on an Asei and a Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash?

9)

(a)When the Tana writes 'Ein Chayavin al Asei ve'al Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash', he is referring to - the Sanhedrin (who are obligated to bring a bull for a false ruling [a Par He'elam Davar]).

(b)Despite the fact that the Sanhedrin bring a Par He'elam Davar on an Asei and a Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Nidah, they are not also obligated to bring one on an Asei and a Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash - because they only bring a Par He'elam Davar for a sin on which one brings a Chiyuv Chatas Kevu'ah (a fixed Chatas) for a Yachid (but not a Korban Oleh ve'Yored, which fluctuates according to the sinner's means).

10)

(a)By contrast to the previous ruling, to whom is the Tana referring when he writes 've'Ein Mevi'in Asham Taluy al Asei ve'al Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash'?

(b)Seeing as a Yachid does bring an Asham Taluy on an Asei and a Lo So Sa'aseh shel Nidah, why not she'be'Mikdash?

(c)How do we know that 'Mevi'in Asham Taluy' refers to Yechidim and not to the Sanhedrin (like the previous case)?

10)

(a)By contrast to the previous ruling, when the Tana writes 've'Ein Mevi'in Asham Taluy al Asei ve'al Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash', he is referring to - a Yachid.

(b)Despite the fact that a Yachid does bring an Asham Taluy on an Asei and a Lo So Sa'aseh shel Nidah, he does not bring one for an Aei ve'Lo Sa'aseh she'be'Mikdash - because one only brings an Asham Taluy in the case of a Safek Chatas Kevu'ah (but not a Safek Chatas Oleh ve'Yored).

(c)We know that 'Mevi'in Asam Taluy' refers to Yechidim and not to the Sanhedrin (like the previous case) - because only Yechidim bring an Asham Taluy (on a Safek Kareis), and not the Tzibur.

11)

(a)We just learned that if a man separates from his wife who is a Nidah immediately (be'Shogeg), he is Chayav a Chatas. What does Abaye in the name of Rebbi Chiya bar Rav and Rava Amar ... Rav Huna say about that?

(b)Rabah (or Rava) has a problem with this ruling. On the assumption that we are speaking about 'Samuch le'Vestah' (close to the time that her fixed monthly period was due), what will be the problem, if the person concerned is ...

1. ... a Talmid-Chacham?

2. ... an Am ha'Aretz?

(c)What do we mean by 'Samuch le'Vestah'?

11)

(a)We learned that if a man seperates from his wife who is a Nidah immediately (be'Shogeg), he is Chayav a Chatas. Abaye in the name of Rebbi Chiya bar Rav and Rava Amar ... Rav Huna says - that he is Chayav two Chata'os, one for the entry and one for the withdrawal.

(b)Rabah (or Rava) has a problem with this ruling. On the assumption that we are speaking about 'Samuch le'Vestah' (close to the time that her fixed monthly period was due), the problem, if the person concerned is ...

1. ... a Talmid-Chacham is - that he ought to be Chayav only one Chatas for the entry, but not for the withdrawal, since he is a Meizid (for which he is Chayav Kareis).

2. ... an Am ha'Aretz - is a Shogeg for the entry and, since believing himself to have been an Oneis for the entry, he does not know that he sinned by the time he withdraws, in which case it is like eating two k'Zeisim of Cheilev without knowing in between that he sinned (for which he brings only one Chatas, and not two).

(c)By 'Samuch le'Vestah', we mean - from the beginning of the twelve-hour period (day or night) during which she is due to see blood.

12)

(a)On the assumption that we are speaking about not 'Samuch le'Vestah', what will be the problem, if the person concerned is ...

1. ... a Talmid-Chacham?

2. ... an Am ha'Aretz?

(b)So what compromise does Rava make when he finally establishes the case by a Talmid-Chacham and Samuch le'Vestah?

(c)Why is this not a case of 'two k'Zeisim of Cheilev in One He'elam?

(d)Why is he not considered a Meizid for choosing to be intimate with his wife Samuch le'Vestah?

12)

(a)On the assumption that we are speaking about not 'Samuch le'Vestah', the problem, if the person concerned is ...

1. ... a Talmid-Chacham is - that he is then an Oneis on the entry and Meizid on the withdrawal (so why should he bring any Chata'os at all?)

2. ... an Am ha'Aretz - then he should only be Chayav one Chatas for the withdrawal, but why two?

(b)When Rava finally establishes the case by a Talmid-Chacham and Samuch le'Vestah - he explains that the sinner is a Talmid-Chaham who knows that intimacy is forbidden Samuch le'Vestah, but he is not aware of the Halachah that he needs to wait before exiting.

(c)This us not a case of 'two k'Zeisim of Cheilev in one He'elam' - because the Talmid-Chacham will have known that he sinned when his wife informed him that she had become Temei'ah, and his immediate withdrawal is therefore considered a second Ha'alamah.

(d)He cannot be considered a Meizid for being intimate with his wife Samuch le'Vestah - since she was not actually a Nidah at the time.

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