1)

NEZIRUS IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ (cont.)

(a)

Rejection: No, all agree that the decree was on the soil (Tosfos - on the airspace);

1.

Beis Shamai hold that the Nazir was fined to conduct standard Nezirus in Eretz Yisrael. Beis Hillel hold that he was fined to start over.

(b)

(Mishnah): A case occurred... (R. Yehudah says, Hilni was a Nezirah for only 14 years.)

(c)

Question: Does R. Yehudah hold that she became Teme'ah, according to Beis Shamai; or she did not become Teme'ah, according to Beis Hillel?

(d)

Answer (Mishnah): At the end of the seven years, she came up to Eretz Yisrael. Beis Hillel ruled that she must be a Nezirah for seven more years.

1.

If she became Teme'ah, according to Beis Shamai, why does R. Yehudah say she was a Nezirah for only 14 years? She would have needed to observe 14 years and 30 days!

(e)

Support (Beraisa - R. Yehudah citing R. Eliezer): "Zos Toras ha'Nazir b'Yom Melos" - if he became Tamei on the last day, he must observe standard Nezirus.

2)

CONTRADICTORY TESTIMONY ABOUT NEZIRUS [line 15]

(a)

(Mishnah - Beis Shamai): If one pair of witnesses testify that Reuven accepted two terms (Rashi - years) of Nezirus, and another pair says that he accepted five, there is a contradiction in the testimony. Therefore, we do not force Reuven to be a Nazir;

(b)

Beis Hillel say, the witnesses who say five agree that he accepted at least two. He must be a Nazir twice.

(c)

(Gemara): Our Mishnah is unlike the following Tana:

1.

(Beraisa - R. Yishmael, son of R. Yochanan ben Berokah): If one set of witnesses says two, and another says five, Beis Shamai agree that he must be a Nazir twice;

2.

They argue about when there are only two witnesses, and one says two, and one says five:

i.

Beis Shamai say that there is a contradiction in the testimony, so Reuven need not be a Nazir;

ii.

Beis Hillel say that the one who says five agrees that he accepted at least two, so Reuven must be a Nazir twice.

(d)

(Rav): All agree about when they count out the Neziruyos.

(e)

Question (Rav Chama): What does Rav mean?

1.

Suggestion: One witness says that he accepted five and not two, and the other says that he accepted two, not five.

2.

Rejection: They contradict each other! (Obviously, all agree that Reuven is exempt!)

(f)

Answer: Rather, one says 'he accepted one, two', and the other says 'he accepted three, four, five.'

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(g)

Objection: Why must this be taught?

1.

Version #1 (our text, Rashi): Rav said (in the Yerushalmi) that all agree (that the testimony is Batel) when they count the Neziruyos in the severe case (two pairs of witnesses). Must he teach this also in the lenient case (of only two witnesses)?!

2.

Version #2 (text of Tosfos, Rosh): Objection: Why is this considered contradictory testimony?

i.

The one who is stringent (and says 'three, four five'), all the more so agrees that he accepted (at least) two! (end of Version #2)

(h)

(Chachamim of Eretz Yisrael): When they count, this is not considered contradiction.

PEREK MI SHE'OMAR
3)

HATFASAH IN A NAZIR [line 4]

(a)

(Mishnah): If Reuven said 'I am a Nazir'; another (heard him and) said 'and I'; (and another said) 'and I', they are all Nezirim.

1.

If the first annulled his Nezirus, the Nezirus of all of them is annulled. If the last annulled his Nezirus, he is not a Nazir, but the rest of them are Nezirim.

(b)

If Reuven said 'I am a Nazir'; and Shimon said 'my mouth is like his mouth', or 'my hair is like his hair', Shimon is also a Nazir.

(c)

If Reuven said 'I am a Nazir'; and his wife said 'and I', Reuven can annul her Nezirus, and he is still a Nazir.

(d)

If Leah said 'I am a Nezirah', and her husband said 'and I', he cannot annul her Nezirus.

(e)

If Reuven said to his wife 'I am a Nazir, and you?', and she replied 'Amen', Reuven can annul her Nezirus, and he is still a Nazir.

(f)

If Leah said to her husband 'I am a Nezirah, and you?', and he replied 'Amen', he cannot annul her Nezirus.

(g)

(Gemara - Reish Lakish): This is when each said 'and I' Toch Kedei Dibur (within the time to speak).

1.

Question: What is this?

2.

Answer: It is the time needed to greet someone with Shalom.

3.

Question: How long is this?

4.

Answer: It is the time needed for a Talmid to greet his Rebbi (Shalom Alecha Rebbi).

(h)

Objection (R. Yehudah Nesi'ah): This does not leave time for a Talmid (who wanted to accept Nezirus like Reuven, and his Rebbi came. He must greet his Rebbi, and then it is too late to say 'and I'!)!