(Mishnah): One (a Zar) who eats Terumah b'Mezid, he pays the principal, but he does not pay the Chomesh.

(Mishnah): These are lashed... (a Zar who eats Terumah).

Question: Here (the latter Mishnah), you say that he is lashed. Here (the former Mishnah), you say that he pays! (We hold that one does not get lashed and pay!)

Answer #1 (R. Yochanan): The Mishnayos discuss different cases. If he was warned, he is lashed. If he was not warned, he pays.

Note: A second answer will be given below, on Amud B.

(R. Yochanan): When there is [liability for] lashes and payment, he is lashed, and he does not pay.

Question: He should be lashed and pay!

Answer: "Kedei Rish'aso" - you obligate (punish) him for one evil. You do not obligate him for two evils.

Question: He should pay and not be lashed!

Answer: The verse discusses one who has [liability] for two evils, and it says "v'Hipilu ha'Shofet v'Hikahu Kedei Rish'aso b'Mishpar."

(Reish Lakish): Even if he was not warned, he does not pay, since if he were warned, he would be lashed.

Question (against Reish Lakish - Mishnah): [A Zar] who eats Terumah b'Shogeg, he pays the principal and a Chomesh;

If he were warned, would he not be lashed (and even so, he pays)?!

Answer: He explains [that the Mishnah is] like R. Meir. R. Meir holds that one is lashed and pays.

Question (against Reish Lakish - Mishnah): There is a fine for the following Na'aros (a Mamzeres...)

If he were warned, would he not be lashed (and even so, he pays)?!

Answer: He explains [that the Mishnah is] like R. Meir. R. Meir holds that one is lashed and pays.

(R. Avahu citing Reish Lakish): R. Meir learns from Motzi Shem Ra - "v'Yisro Oso" is lashes. "V'Anshu Oso" is money (a fine of 100).

Rabanan (who hold that normally, one does not get lashes and pay money) hold that Motzi Shem Ra teaches a Chidush. Something that teaches a Chidush, we do not learn from it;

Everywhere [else], one is not liable for his speech, and here he is liable for his speech (even though it does not accomplish anything, only his witnesses do).

Therefore, just like you cannot learn from it another matter, you cannot learn from it [monetary] punishment or lashes.

Question: Did not R. Avahu say in the name of R. Yochanan, if one was Mezid about Chelev and Shogeg about the Korban, we warn him, and he is lashed and brings a Korban? And here, he should be lashed and pay!

Answer (R. Bun bar Chiyah citing R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): "Kedei Rish'aso" teaches that when there are two matters handed over to Beis Din [to enforce], you enforce [only] one of them. This excludes something handed over to Shamayim. (Beis Din lashes; the Chiyuv Korban is to Shamayim).