(Mishnah): If the Sanhedrin of a Shevet ruled and that Shevet sinned, that Shevet brings a Par, and the other Shevatim are exempt. R. Yehudah says so;

Chachamim say, they are liable only for rulings of the great Sanhedrin - "v'Im Kol Adas Yisrael Yishgu", and not the Edah of that Shevet.

(Gemara): R. Meir says, [Par Helam Davar] is an obligation of Beis Din. R. Yehudah says, it is an obligation of the Tzibur.

Question: What is R. Meir's reason?

Answer: It says here "me'Einei", and it says below (Par Helam Davar for idolatry) "me'Einei." Just like there it is Beis Din (it says that the Edah, i.e. the ones who ruled, bring the Korban) also here it is Beis Din.

Question: What is R. Meir's reason?

Answer: It says here "me'Einei", and it says below "me'Einei." Just like there it is the Tzibur (it says "Kol ha'Edah) also here it is the Tzibur.

Question: What is R. Shimon's reason?

Answer: It says here "me'Einei", and it says below "me'Einei." Just like there Beis Din [brings, like R. Meir expounded] also here Beis Din. Just like there the Tzibur [brings, like R. Yehudah expounded], also here the Tzibur.

Question: [Obviously,] the one who says that it is an obligation of Beis Din, Beis Din brings [the Korban]. The one who says that it is an obligation of the Tzibur, who brings?

Answer (Beraisa): They cast [the cost of the Korban] on [the Tzibur] and bring it. R. Meir says so;

R. Yehudah says, it comes from Terumas ha'Lishkah;

Question: [Obviously,] the one who says that it is an obligation of Beis Din, Beis Din does Semichah. The one who says that it is an obligation of the Tzibur, who does Semichah?

Answer (Beraisa): Three from each Shevet, and the Rosh Beis Din stands over them, do Semichah on the bull's head.

"Yedeihem" - the hands of every individual [by himself]. "Al Rosh ha'Par" - the bull needs Semichah, but Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not need Semichah. R. Yehudah says so;

R. Shimon says, the bull needs Semichah through Chachamim, but Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not need Semichah through Chachamim;

1. R. Shimon says, every Chatas Tzibur whose blood enters inside [the Heichal] needs Semichah.

Question (against R. Yehudah): It says "va'Yagishu Es Se'irei ha'Chatas [...va'Yismechu Yedeihem Aleihem]"!

Answer (R. Chiyah citing R. Yochanan): It was a Hora'as Sha'ah [to bring them. They were not really Se'irei Avodah, for the idolatry in Bayis Rishon was b'Mezid, and not due to a Hora'ah.]

Question (R. Yochanan): If the Tzibur [was obligated Par Helam Davar, and] died, does [a later generation] bring in place of it?

Question: (Why does he ask?) It says "ha'Ba'im meha'Shevi... [Tzefirei Chatas Shneim Asar ha'Kol Olah] - can a Chatas be an Olah?!

Rather, just like Olah is not eaten, [this] Chatas is not eaten;

R. Yehudah says, they brought them for Avodah Zarah [in Bayis Rishon, even though most of the Tzibur died].

Answer (R. Chizkiyah citing R. Yirmeyah citing R. Chiyah citing R. Yochanan): [We cannot learn from there, for] it was a Hora'as Sha'ah.

R. Yirmeyah learned as follows. The bull needs Semichah through Chachamim, but Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not need Semichah through Chachamim. (R. Shimon said so above.)

Question: Who [does Semichah on them]?

Answer #1 (R. Yirmeyah): Aharon u'Vanav (Kohanim do Semichah on them).

Objection (R. Yosi): R. Chiyah taught "v'Samach... v'Samchu" - this excludes Se'irei Avodah Zarah for Semichah, not through Aharon, rather, through Chachamim! (Starting from R. Yochanan's question, we explained like HAGAHOS R. DINAR.)

Note: The MALBIM explains that even though we discuss Zekenim, the Torah could have written v'Samach. Therefore, we can expound the plural v'Samchu.

Answer #2 (R. Yosi): The live goat (Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach) requires Semichah through Aharon, but Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not require Semichah through Aharon;

And it says "v'Samach Aharon Es Shtei Yadav Al Rosh ha'Se'ir] ha'Chai" - the live goat requires Semichah through Aharon, but Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not require Semichah through Aharon.

Question: How does R. Yirmeyah explain this verse?

Answer: [Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not require Semichah through Kohen Gadol, rather, it is Kosher even] through a Kohen Hedyot.

(Beraisa #1): If Beis Din ruled and the Tzibur did based on them, if one of the Beis Din died, they are exempt. If one of the Tzibur died, they are obligated.

(R. Zeira citing Rav Hamnuna): This is like R. Meir (who says that Beis Din brings the bull. Therefore, it is like a Chatas of partners. If one of them dies, they are exempt. If one of the Tzibur dies, Beis Din is still intact.)

(R. Zeira citing Rav Chisda - Beraisa #2) Suggestion: If Beis Din ruled and they themselves did - if they knew what they ruled, but they erred about what they ruled, or if they were Shogeg about what they ruled, perhaps they are liable!

Rejection: "V'Nod'ah ha'Chatas" (they know what sin they did), and not that they know [only] who sinned.

R. Meir (to Chachamim): If [Beis Din] exempts others [who relied on Beis Din's Hora'ah], all the more so it should exempt itself!

Chachamim (to R. Meir): It exempts others, for they have whom to rely on. It does not exempt itself, for it does not have whom to rely on.

Implied question: [Why must they know what sin they did? In any case they are Chayav Chatas, e.g.] whether [they ruled about] Chelev or they ruled about Shabbos!

Answer #1: This is like R. Yehoshua [who argues with R. Eliezer, and says that to bring a Chatas, one must know what sin he did - Kerisus 4:3].

Answer #2: (It is even like R. Eliezer.) They ruled, but they do not know whether they ruled about idolatry or other Mitzvos;

If they ruled about idolatry, [can they bring] a Par [Chatas?! They must bring a Par Olah and Se'ir Chatas!] If they ruled about other Mitzvos, [can they bring] a Se'ir?! (They must bring a Par!) It is a Safek if they must bring a Par or Se'ir. A change of Korban [disqualifies, so] they are exempt.