More Discussions for this daf
1. The length of the Avodah on Yom Kipur 2. Segan ha'Kohen 3. The Segan Kohen Gadol and the Goral
4. Shimon ha'Tzadik 5. Misah 6. Tree in the Beis HaMikdash?
7. Benefiting from perfume of Hedkesh 8. Kalfi and Goral on Yom Kipur 9. The Segan Kohen Gadol and the Goral
10. Beis Avtinas' abstinence from perfume 11. Forty years before the Temple's destruction 12. Girsa correction
13. Tzadikim in every generation 14. Achilas Kodashim 15. ונמנעו אחיו הכהנים מלברך בשם
16. אף עלייה אינה מעכבת

Salomon Amar asked:

Dear Rabbi,

In todays daf the gemara talks about sgan hakohen implying that the sgan would take over should the kohen gadol becomes tamei

In the first mishna I talks about cohen aher and rashi says that cohen aher was not the sgan since the sgan refuse to do it for reasons that when the cohen gadol became tahor again the the substitute would not be a cohen hediot would not either be a kohen gadol.

Please help

Shlomo amar, SA

The Kollel replies:

I could not find the Rashi to which you refer. However, with regard to whether or not the Segan served as the Yom Kipur backup, we wrote in a recent discussion that it might be a Machlokes between the various Rishonim. (I am including a copy of that mailing below.)

If the Segan does replace the Kohen Gadol on Yom Kipur, you are correct in asking why the Mishnah on 2a does not mention this. The Gevuras Ari here asks the question, and answers that the Mishnah is discussing a situation where there was no Segan.

Be well,

Mordecai Kornfeld


Re: Yoma 012: Segan Kohen Gadol

The Kollel replied:

>>As we discussed once in this forum (See Discussion of the Daf for Yoma 2), this was not normally the Segan Kohen Gadol. According to what you pointed out, the Segan was probably too busy to be used as a standby Kohen Gadol for Yom Kipur - after all, even on Yom Kipur his administrative duties would be needed.<<

David Retter asked:

Dear Rav Mordechai shlita:

In your reply, you state that the standby Kohen Gadol was not normally the Segan Kohen Gadol. Please note that the Bartenura in Sanhedrin Perek 2, Mishnah 1 appears to say that the two were one and the same. Also see the Tifereth Yisrael on the same mishnah.

Hatzlocha Rabbah!



The Kollel replies:

Excellent point, David, thank you! Actually, the source for the Bartenura is Rashi in Ta'anis 31a, and Tosfos in Nazir 47b (DH Mashu'ach) - see also Me'iri in Sanhedrin there, who also follows the opinion that the Segan was only needed to replace the Kohen Gadol on Yom Kipur. This must be the intention of the Gevuras Ari (Yoma 39a, cited in previous discussion) as well.

However, since Rashi (39a and elsewhere) and many Rishonim do not mention Yom Kipur, and since the Mishnah (2a) does not mention Segan, I inferred that other Rishonim hold the Segan was not the "Yom Kipur replacement". This may depend on the Machlokes (7b) whether the Tzitz is Mechaper while it is not being worn.

Best wishes,

Mordecai Kornfeld