More Discussions for this daf
1. Kares and eating the Korban Pesach 2. The Men Sitting and eating at the table 3. Melaket Atzamos
4. Pesach Rishon - Pesach Sheini 5. Lo He'emidu Divreihem b'Makom Kares
DAF DISCUSSIONS - PESACHIM 92

Eli Rothschild asks:

Hi

I have a question I would like to ask. The gemara says Lo He'emidu Divreihem b'Makom Kares which is referring to the Mitzva of eating the korbon pesach. The question is once you were already yotze the korbon by shechita there is no longer kares?

I thought of a couple answers but didn't see any seforim talk about this question.

Thank you very much

Eli

The Kollel replies:

1) The Rambam (Hilchos Korban Pesach 2:6) writes that even when one performed the Shechitah properly, if he then sprinkled the blood of the Korban Pesach in the wrong way, the Korban is invalid; Zerikah is severe, because sprinkling the blood is the primary aspect of the Korban.

So Shechitah is not enough to be Yotzei the Korban. The crucial part is the sprinkling of the blood on the Mizbe'ach.

When the Torah states that one receives Kares "Ki Korban Hash-m Lo Hikriv" (Bamidbar 9:13), the word "Hikriv" means the Korban, and if he did not sprinkle the blood he is liable for Kares.

2) I should also mention that there is a special aspect of Korban Pesach -- namely, that a very important part of the Mitzvah is to eat the Korban.

a) The Mishnah (76b) states that if the Korban Pesach is brought when the people are Tamei, it is also eaten when Tamei, because from the beginning it was brought only to be eaten. Rashi writes that when the Torah commands the offering of the Korban Pesach, the primary command is that it should be eaten, as is written, "Each person according to what he can eat shall be counted for the sheep" (Shemos 12:4).

b) Rashi (61a, DH Aval) explains further. Other offerings, apart from the Korban Pesach, are brought mainly for atonement, and are not primarily intended for eating. In addition, Rashi (62a, DH Arel) writes that the Korban Pesach must be fit for eating because the fact that the owners must eat the Korban is Me'akev; without eating it, he does not fulfill the Mitzvah.

c) The Rambam (Hilchos Korban Pesach 4:2) also writes that if the meat of the Korban Pesach became Tamei, and this became known before the blood was sprinkled, then he should not sprinkle the blood because the Korban Pesach comes only in order to be eaten.

Kol Tuv,

Dovid Bloom

David Samuels asks:

Rabbi Bloom, this is a different person than the one who asked the question. I have been learning the daf yomi, and we have repeatedly learned that if the pesach is slaughtered and the blood is sprinkled, you can be yotze the mitzvah of korbon pesach without eating it. I do not, unfortunately, have command of an example at my fingertips to demonstrate my point.

The Kollel replies:

David, here are sources that the most important part of the Mitzvah of korban Pesach is to eat it.

1) The Mishnah 76b states explicitly "the sole reason that Korban Pesach is brought is in order to be eaten".

2) The Mishnah 78b states that if the meat of the Korban Pesach became tamei, one does not sprinkle the blood. Rashi writes that this is because the main purpose of the Korban Pesach is to be eaten, so if we know in advance that it cannot be eaten; because it is tamei; it follows that there is no point in sprinkling the blood.

3) The Mishnah 61a states that if one slaughters the Korban Pesach with the intention of people who will not eat it, it is invalid. The Gemara there explains that this refers to someone who slaughtered the Pesach for a sick or elderly person who is not capable of eating it.

David, thank you very much for your input!

Shabbat Shalom

Dovid Bloom