Hi. Can you please help me with these 2 questions? Gimmel amud bais
1. What is the dovor shnischadesh buh in the case of Lolam b'hem tovodu that Rabbi Yishmoel is referring to? In the first 2 cases the gemara explains the new halacha but by this one it does not appear to.
2.It appears to be out of order. Why are we saying that since the Torah says B'achaychem, it also says b'hem. The passuk of b'hem is before B'achaychem. It seems Tosfas Shantz switches the order but Rashi insists on Huchi Garsinon. Why? and if we keep it in that order how does it make sense that were repeating something if its the first thing we actually said?
Thank you!
Aron
Aron Mendelovitz, Spring Valley, USA
1) Tosfos Shantz writes (in the name of his teacher; "Rebbe") that the dovor she-nischadesh buh is that to start off we thought that leOlam bahem Ta'avodu teaches us that if one of the nations bore a son from the Kna'anis that one is allowed to work with the son, and now we are mechadesh and say a new teaching; which is not referring to the children born from the Kna'anis but is referreing to the first generation; and we say that bahem teaches that only bahem is one allowed to work with the son, whilst "B'achaychem" one is not allowed to work.
2) According to the original text of the Gemara it is in order, since bahem comes before B'achaychem. Rashi deliberately switched the order. The Tosfos Rosh writes that the reason that Rashi changed the order is because the original text is difficult since B'achaychem does not tell us anything new once we have already said bahem.
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