1)

(a)What made Rava initially think that Simanim are better than Tevi'as Ayin?

(b)What caused him to change his mind?

(c)What would be the problem if Tevi'as Ayin was not better than Simanim?

1)

(a)What made Rava initially think that Simanim are better than Tevi'as Ayin is the fact that - one returns a lost article with Simanim, but not with Tevi'as Ayin (see Tosfos DH 've'Lo Mehadrinan').

(b)He changed his mind however - on account of the cases that we just cited, where the Amora'im permitted Isur through Tevi'as Ayin.

(c)If Tevi'as Ayin was not better than Simanim - how could a man ever be intimate with his wife by night, and a blind man even by day, unless we relied upon Tei'as Ayin (of the voice in the latter case).

2)

(a)How does Rav Yitzchak b'rei de'Rav Mesharshaya support Rava from the witnesses in a murder case?

(b)And how does Rav Ashi prove him right from a practical point of view?

2)

(a)Rav Yitzchak b'rei de'Rav Mesharshaya supports Rava from the witnesses in a murder case - who are believed if they say that they recognize the litigants, but not if they give Simanim to describe them.

(b)And Rav Ashi proves him right from the fact that - if Reuven describes Shimon to Levi, it is far from clear that he will recognize him; whereas with Tevi'as Ayin, he definitely will.

3)

(a)Who is the Tana Kama of our Mishnah who requires the removal of the entire Gid ha'Nasheh?

(b)What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(c)What does the Tana say about somebody who eats ...

1. ... a k'Zayis of a Gid ha'Nasheh?

2. .... a Gid ha'Nasheh that comprises less than a k'Zayis?

(d)We already discussed the Seifa of the Mishnah, where the Tana sentences someone who eats a k'Zayis of each Gid to two sets of Malkos. What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

3)

(a)The Tana Kama of our Mishnah, who requires the removal of the entire Gid ha'Nasheh, is - Rebbi Meir, who requires the Gid to be dug out by its roots (as we have already learned).

(b)Rebbi Yehudah requires - only the removal of the part that is visible.

(c)The Tana rules that somebody who eats ...

1. ... a k'Zayis of a Gid ha'Nasheh or ...

2. ... a Gid ha'Nasheh that comprises less than a k'Zayis - receives Malkos.

(d)We already discussed the Seifa of the Mishnah, where the Tana sentences someone who eats a k'Zayis of each Gid to two sets of Malkos. Rebbi Yehudah - sentences him to only one set (for eating the right Gid).

4)

(a)What did Shmuel comment, when bar Piyuli cut away only the visible part of the Gid ha'Nasheh, like Rebbi Yehudah?

(b)What did Shmuel say to bar Piyuli when out of frustration, he dropped his knife?

(c)What can we imply from Rav Sheishes' initial statement that bar Piyuli fulfilled Rebbi Yehudah's Torah obligation?

(d)What is the problem with that?

(e)So how do we amend Rav Sheishes' statement?

4)

(a)When bar Pivli cut away only the visible part of the Gid ha'Nasheh like Rebbi Yehudah, Shmuel commented - that he should cut away more, and that if he hadn't seen him, he (bar Pivli) would have served him Isur.

(b)When out of frustration, bar Pivli dropped his knife - Shmuel reassured him that he was not accusing him of cutting away too little out of ignorance, but realized that he had been taught like Rebbi Yehudah (whereas he (Shmuel) held like Rebbi Meir.

(c)From Rav Sheishes' initial statement, that bar Piyuli fulfilled Rebbi Yehudah's Torah obligation - we can imply that he did not fulfill Rebbi Yehudah's obligation mi'de'Rabbanan.

(d)The problem then is that if even Rebbi Yehudah requires the removal of more than what he had removed, mi'de'Rabbanan - like whom had they taught bar Piyuli?

(e)So we amend Rav Sheishes' statement to read that - bar Piyuli fulfilled Rebbi Meir's Torah obligation, but not what Rebbi Meir requires to be cut away mi'de'Rabbanan (and that what he done conformed entirely to the opinion of Rebbi Yehudah).

5)

(a)What statement did Shmuel issue based on the Pasuk "al Kaf ha'Yarech"?

(b)What did he mean by that?

5)

(a)Shmuel issued a ruling, based on the Pasuk "al Kaf ha'Yarech" that - the Torah only forbade the part of the Gid that lies on the spoon of the thigh ...

(b)... but not the remainder of the Gid (which extends well below that point).

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6)

(a)On what basis does the Tana Kama of the Beraisa sentence a person to Malkos for eating a Gid ha'Nasheh that is less than a k'Zayis?

(b)Rebbi Yehudah counters this by citing the Pasuk in Vayishlach "Al-kein Lo Yochlu b'nei Yisrael es Gid ha'Nasheh". What does he extrapolate from there?

(c)What do the Rabbanan learn from "Yochlu"?

(d)Rebbi Yehudah learns that from " ... asher al Kaf ha'Yarech". What do the Rabbanan learn from there?

6)

(a)The Tana Kama of the Beraisa sentences a person to Malkos for eating a Gid ha'Nasheh that is less than a k'Zayis - on the basis of being a Beryah (a complete entity [see Tosfos DH 'Beryah').

(b)Rebbi Yehudah counters that by citing the Pasuk "Al-kein Lo Yochlu b'nei Yisrael es Gid ha'Nasheh" - and 'Achilah' always implies a k'Zayis.

(c)The Rabbanan learn from "Yochlu" that - one is Chayav even for eating a k'Zayis of a large Gid ha'Nasheh, even though he did not eat the entire Gid.

(d)Rebbi Yehudah learns that from " ... asher al Kaf ha'Yarech", whereas the Rabbanan learn from there that- one is only Chayav for eating the Gid that is on the Kaf ha'Yerech (like Shmuel).

7)

(a)How do the Rabbanan counter Rebbi Yehudah's D'rashah from "ha'Yarech", 'de'Kulah Yerech' (even the part of the Gid that is not on the Kaf)? What do they learn from "ha'Yarech"?

(b)But we need "Kaf" to preclude the Gid ha'Nasheh of a bird?

(c)What have we proved from this Beraisa?

7)

(a)The Rabbanan counter Rebbi Yehudah's D'rashah from "ha'Yarech", 'de'Kulah Yerech' (even the part of the Gid that is not on the Kaf) - by using that Pasuk to teach us that one is only Chayav for the inner Gid, which stretches down the entire length of the thigh (as we learned earlier).

(b)We do indeed need "Kaf" to preclude the Gid ha'Nasheh of a bird - but the Torah writes it twice.

(c)We have proved from this Beraisa that - Shmuel's D'rashah (from "al Kaf ha'Yarech") is in fact, a Machlokes Tana'im, and that it is the opinion of the Rabbanan, but not Rebbi Yehudah.

8)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about a thigh that has been cooked together with the Gid ha'Nasheh?

(b)The Tana measures the Shi'ur as if the thigh was a turnip, and the Gid, meat (even though if it was a different kind of vegetable, it would require a little more or a little less). What is the source for that?

(c)And what does the Tana say about a Gid ha'Nasheh that has been cooked together with other Gidin in a case where ...

1. ... one recognizes it?

2. ... one does not recognize it?

8)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that a thigh that has been cooked together with the Gid ha'Nasheh - is Asur as long as it (the Gid) adds taste.

(b)The Tana measures the Shi'ur as if the thigh was a turnip, and the Gid, meat (even though, if it was a different kind of vegetable, it would require a little more or a little less) - Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai (This Din will be explained in the Sugya).

(c)And the Tana rules that if a Gid ha'Nasheh has been cooked together with other Gidin, assuming that one ...

1. ... recognizes it - after removing the Isur, the remaining pieces will be permitted, as long as the Gid ha'Nasheh did not add taste to them.

2. ... does not recognize it - the entire pot is Asur.

9)

(a)What will be the Din with regard to the gravy of such a mixture?

(b)And what does the Tana finally say about a piece of Neveilah or Tamei fish that is cooked with other Kasher pieces of the same kind?

9)

(a)The gravy of such a mixture - will be permitted as long as the forbidden pieces do not contain sufficient to add taste.

(b)The Tana finally rules - exactly the same with regard to a piece of Neveilah or Tamei fish that is cooked with other Kasher pieces of the same kind, as it did by Gid ha'Nasheh.

10)

(a)Shmuel qualifies the opening Din in our Mishnah. What does he say about a case where the thigh was not cooked together with its Gid ha'Nasheh, but roasted?

(b)Why is that?

(c)What did Rav Huna say about a kid that one roasted together with its Cheilev?

(d)What did he mean by 'even from the tip of its ears' (see Tosfos DH 'Afilu')?

(e)How do we reconcile this with Shmuel?

10)

(a)Shmuel qualifies the opening Din in our Mishnah - by confining it to where the thigh was specifically cooked together with its Gid. But if they were roasted together, he permits eating the thigh right up to the Gid (see Tosfos DH 'ad she'Magi'a le'Gid') ...

(b)... because there is no gravy to carry the taste of the Gid to the rest of the thigh.

(c)Rav Huna - forbids a kid that one roasted together with its Cheilev ...

(d)... and when he said 'even from the tips of its ears', he meant that - even the tips of its ears are forbidden, in spite of their distance from the Cheilev (Tosfos DH 'Afilu').

(e)This does not pose a Kashya on Shmuel - because Cheilev, unlike Gid ha'Nasheh (which is dry), spreads across the entire body.

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