1)
(a)What did Rava from Parzika extrapolate from the word 'Sheneihem' (in our Mishnah 'Hayu Sheneihem shel Ish Echad, Sheneihem Chayavim')?
(b)How does ...
1. ... Rav Ashi establish our Mishnah, in order to refute this proof?
2. ... Rava from Parzika prove from the Seifa ('Hayah Echad Gadol ve'Echad Katan') that this is not possible?
3. ... Rav Ashi counter Rava from Parzika's answer?
(c)Rav Acha Saba counters that with two objections based on the Lashon of the Tana in the Reisha itself; one, from the word 'Chayavin', when, if the Tana is speaking about Mu'adin, he ought to have said 'Chayav' (seeing as it is the Mazik who pays out of his own pocket). What is the other?
1)
(a)From the word 'Sheneihem' (in our Mishnah 'Hayu Sheneihem shel Ish Echad, Sheneihem Chayavim') Rava from Parzika extrapolated that if one of two Tamin damage, the Nizak can claim the full Chatzi Nezek from either of the oxen, should he so wish, and that applies even if one them got lost.
(b)
1. ... In order to refute this proof Rav Ashi establishes the Reisha by two Mu'adin.
2. ... Rava from Parzika proves from the Seifa ('Hayah Echad Gadol ve'Echad Katan') that this is not possible because what difference would it then make whether it was the big ox that gored or the small one, seeing as the Mazik pays from his own pocket anyway ...
3. ... which Rav ashi counters by establishing the Reisha by Tamin and the Seifa, by Mu'adin.
(c)Rav Acha Saba raises two objections to Rav Ashi's explanation from the Tana's own words; one from the word 'Chayavin', when, if the Tana is speaking about Mu'adin, he ought to have said 'Chayav' (seeing as it is the Mazik who pays out of his own pocket); the other 'Sheneihem' (implying that the Nizak has a claim on both oxen.
2)
(a)So we revert to ouer original understanding of the Mishnah, and establish it by Tamin. How do we now interpret 'Sheneihem'?
(b)Who is then the author of our Mishnah?
(c)What will the Din now if one of the possible Mazikin got lost?
2)
(a)So we revert to our original understanding of the Mishnah, and establish it by Tamin. We now interpret 'Sheneihem' to mean that as long as both Mazikin are available, the Nizak has the right to claim from either of them 'mi'Mah Nafshach' ...
(b)... according to Rebbi Akiva, who considers the Nizak to be a partner in the Mazik.
(c)If one of them got lost howeever then he may no longer claim at all because his claim is only that of a Safek.
HADRAN ALACH 'HA'MENI'ACH'
PEREK SHOR SHE'NAGACH ARBA'AH VA'CHAMISHAH
3)
(a)According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, in a case where an ox gored four or five oxen, it is the last Nizak who has the first right to claim. How is it that the ox has remained a Tam after having gored four or five times?
(b)Which Nizak has the next right to claim, should some of the Mazik ox remain after the last Nizak has taken his share?
3)
(a)According to Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, in a case where an ox gored four or five oxen, it is the last Nizak who has the first right to claim. The ox has remained a Tam after having gored four or five times by virtue of the fact it did not gore all the Nezikin consecutively. It gored one ox for example, ignored the next one that it saw, gored the next one and then ignored two, before goring the third one.
(b)Should some of the Mazik remain after the last Nizak has taken his share it is the preceding one who has the next right to claim ('Yachzir le'she'Lefanav'), and after him, comes the one before him ... ('ve'Acharon Acharon Niskar').
4)
(a)Rebbi Shimon disagrees. In a case where an ox worth two hundred Zuz gored an ox worth two hundred Zuz and the carcass is worth nothing, he rules that each one takes half the Mazik. What will be the Din if the ox then gores ...
1. ... a third person?
2. ... a fourth person?
(b)How much is a Dinar Zahav?
(c)Why does the author of our Mishnah ...
1. ... ('Acharon Acharon Niskar') not appear to be Rebbi Yishmael?
2. ... ('Yesh Bo Mosar Yachzir le'she'Le'fanav') not appear to be Rebbi Akiva?
4)
(a)Rebbi Shimon disagrees. In a case where an ox worth two hundred Zuz gored an ox worth two hundred Zuz and the carcass is worth nothing, he rules that each one takes half the Mazik. The Din, if the ox then gores ...
1. ... a third person will be that he takes a Manah and the two pervious ones, fifty Zuz, each.
2. ... a fourth person that he takes a Manah, the one before, fifty Zuz each and the first two, a Dinar Zahav each.
(b)A Dinar Zahav is twenty-five Zuz.
(c)The author of our Mishnah ...
1. ... 'Acharon Acharon Niskar' does not appear to be Rebbi Yishmael who holds that the Nizak is considered a creditor, not a partner. In that case, he would rule 'Rishon Rishon Niskar' (since earlier creditors take precedence over later ones).
2. ... 'Yesh Bo Mosar Yachzir le'she'Lefanav' does not appear to be Rebbi Akiva who holds that he is considered a partner, in which case, he would rule that whatever is left, should be shared among all the others.
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5)
(a)How do we establish our Mishnah, in order to establish the author as Rebbi Yishmael? How does this solve the problem?
(b)What problem does this create with 'Yesh Bo Mosar, Yachzir le'she'Lefanav'? What ought the Din to be according to Rebbi Yishmael?
(c)How does Ravina therefore amend 've'Im Yesh Bo Mosar ... '?
(d)When Ravin came from Eretz Yisrael, he too explained the Mishnah in this way. Whom was he quoting?
5)
(a)To establish the author of our Mishnah as Rebbi Yishmael we establish it when each Nizak seized the Mazik in turn, in order to claim damages from it, turning him into a Shomer Sachar, and liable for subsequent damages.
(b)The problem this creates with 'Im Yesh Bo Mosar, Yachzir le'she'Lefanav' is that, according to Rebbi Yishmael, whatever remains, ought to go to the owner, and not to the previous Nizak.
(c)Ravina therefore amends 've'Im Yesh Bo Mosar bi'Nezakav, Yachzir le'she'Lefanav' (meaning that if the damage done to the previous Nizak's ox exceeded that done to the last one) 'Yachzir le'she'Lefanav'.
(d)When Ravin quoting Rebbi Yochanan, came from Eretz Yisrael, he too explained the Mishnah in this way.
6)
(a)How do we reconcile our interpretation of Rebbi Meir in the Reisha, with Rebbi Shimon, who seems to hold that the Nizakin are partners?
(b)What did Shmuel tell Rav Yehudah in this regard?
(c)Having established our Mishnah when each Nizak claimed the ox in turn, why can we not establish the author as Rebbi Akiva?
(d)What is the Chidush, according to Rebbi Yishmael?
6)
(a)We reconcile our interpretation of Rebbi Meir in the Reisha, with Rebbi Shimon, who seems to hold that the Nizakin are partners by establishing Rebbi Meir like Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Shimon, like Rebbi Akiva.
(b)Shmuel told Rav Yehudah to leave the Mishnah and follow him, because he held that the Reisha follows the opinion of Rebbi Yishmael and the Seifa, that of Rebbi Akiva.
(c)In spite of having established our Mishnah when each Nizak claimed the ox in turn, we cannot establish the author as Rebbi Akiva because then, the Mishnah would not be teaching us anything new, seeing as, even if the subsequent Nizakin would not have seized the Mazik ox, the Din would have been that the last one would gain (in the way that Rebbi Meir describes).
(d)According to Rebbi Yishmael, the Chidush is that by seizing it, the Nizak acquires it and becomes a Shomer Sachar (even before it has been assessed in Beis-Din).
7)
(a)The Mishnah in 'ha'Chovel' rules 'ha'Toke'a la'Chavero, Nosen Lo Sela'. What might 'ha'Toke'a' mean?
(b)To which area of Nezek does this pertain?
(c)How much is he obligated to pay, according to Rebbi Yehudah quoting Rebbi Yossi Hagelili?
7)
(a)The Mishnah in 'ha'Chovel' rules 'ha'Toke'a la'Chavero Nosen Lo Sela'. 'ha'Toke'a' means either that he struck a blow beside his ear, or that he blew a Shofar blast in his ear.
(b)This pertains specifically to the area of Boshes (and is independent of the other four areas of Nezek.
(c)According to Rebbi Yehudah quoting Rebbi Yossi Hagelili, he is obligated to pay a Manah (a hundred Zuz).
8)
(a)When someone did this to his friend, Rav Tuvya bar Masna sent him to Rav Yosef. What did he want to know?
(b)Since when does one claim K'nasos in Bavel?
(c)How much is ...
1. ... a Sela Tzuri?
2. ... a Sela Medinah?
8)
(a)When someone did this to his friend, Rav Tuvya bar Masna sent him to Rav Yosef to find out whether a Sela means 'Tzuri' or 'Medinah' (one eighth of a Sela Tzuri).
(b)Even though K'nasos are not claimable Lechatchilah in Bavel, we are speaking here when the Nizak siezed the payment.
(c)A Sela ...
1. ... Tzuri is the equivalent of four Zuz (or Dinrim).
2. ... a Sela Medinah is the equivalent of half a Zuz.
9)
(a)How did Rav Yosef try to resolve the She'eilah from our Mishnah, which stops at the Dinar Zahav of the third Nizak?
(b)How did Rav Tuvya bar Masna counter his proof?
(c)Eventually, Rav Yosef resolves the She'eilah from Rav Yehudah Amar Rav. What did Rav Yehudah Amar Rav say about ...
1. ... 'Kol Kesef ha'Amur ba'Torah'?
2. ... 've'Shel Divreihem'?
(d)Under which category does our case fall?
9)
(a)Rav Yosef tried to prove from our Mishnah, which stops at the Dinar Zahav of the third Nizak that the Tana must consider a Sela as a Sela Tzuri, because if it was a Sela Medinah, then why did the Tana not add the case where the ox gored one more time, where the last Nizak will receive one Manah, the one before, fifty Zuz, the one before, a Dinar Zahav and the first two twelve Dinar and a Sela (which it could not do if a Sela was a Sela Tzuri, because then the last two would receive twelve and a half Dinar each, and it is not the way of the Tana to deal with halves).
(b)Rav Tuvya bar Masna counters this proof by pointing out that either way, the Tana is under no obligation to list all possible cases.
(c)Eventually, Rav Yosef resolves the She'eilah from Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, who said ...
1. ... 'Kol Kesef ha'Amur ba'Torah' is Kesef Tzuri.
2. ... 've'Shel Divreihem' is Kesef Medinah.
(d)Our case falls under the latter category, since the amount in question was fixed by the Rabbanan, and not by the Torah.
10)
(a)On what grounds did ...
1. ... the Nizak then decide that the half-Zuz should be given to Tzedakah?
2. ... he change his mind?
3. ... Rav Yosef refuse to comply with his second request?
(b)How did he prove his point from a statement of Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel concerning outstanding debts owed to Yesomim?
(c)What is the reason for this?
(d)Why did Rami bar Chama's Beraisa, which supports Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel, cite Raban Gamliel and his Beis-Din?
10)
(a)The reason ...
1. ... the Nizak decided that the half-Zuz should be given to Tzedakah was because of the insignificant amount involved.
2. ... he changed his mind was because he decided that he could enjoy a good meal for that amount.
3. ... Rav Yosef refused to comply with his second request was because as a Gabai Tzedakah, he had already acquired it on behalf of the poor people who relied on him.
(b)He proved his point from a statement of Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel, who said that in the Sh'mitah year, outstanding debts owed to Yesomim do not require a P'ruzbul (a document handing over the creditor's debts to Beis-Din, so that when one ultimately claims the debt, he does so in the name of Beis-Din, thereby avoiding transgressing the La'av of "Lo Yigos" [claiming one's debts after the Sh'mitah]).
(c)The reason for this is because Beis-Din automatically take over the debts of all Yesomim, and no Sh'tar is required.
(d)Rami bar Chama's Beraisa, which supports Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel, cites Raban Gamliel and his Beis-Din as an example, because he was a Nasi and a very important man.
11)
(a)Why did Chanan the scoundrel end up in front of Rav Yehudah?
(b)What problem did he encounter when Rav Huna ordered him to pay half a Zuz?
(c)How did he get round the problem?
11)
(a)Chanan the scoundrel ended up in front of Rav Yehudah either for striking a blow beside someone's ear (or for blowing a Shofar in his ear).
(b)The problem that he encountered when Rav Huna ordered him to pay half a Zuz was that he only possessed a whole Zuz (see Hagahos ha'Bach).
(c)He got round the problem by repeating the performance and paying him the whole Zuz.