BECHOROS 35 - Dedicated by Josh Danziger of Cliffside Park, New Jersey.

1)

TOSFOS DH Gadya b'Udnei

úåñôåú ã"ä âãéà áàåãðéä

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why we are not concerned lest most of the head already left.)

ëùøåàä ùîéòåè äøàù áçåõ éëåì ìäèéì îåí áàåæï åàéï ìå ìçåù (îøéùà) [ö"ì îãéöà - ùéèä î÷åáöú] äàåæï ùîà éöà øåá äøàù åçæø ãîúåê ùàæðé äâãé âãåìåú ãøê àæðéí ìöàú áîéòåè äøàù

(a)

Explanation: When he sees that the minority of the head is outside, he can blemish the ear, and he need not be concerned that since the ear left, perhaps the majority of the head left and returned, for since a kid's ears are big, the ears normally leave with the minority of the head.

1.

Note: It seems to me that the coming words "Imra b'Sifvasi" begin a new Dibur ha'Maschil, but I did not find any Meforshim who say so.

àéîøà áùôååúéä àáì áàæðéä ìà (åéù) [ö"ì ãéù - ùéèä î÷åáöú, äøù"ù] ìå ìçåù ùîà éöà øåá äøàù åçæø

(b)

Distinction: [One may blemish] a lamb in its lips, but not in its ear, for he must be concerned lest the majority of the head left and returned.

2)

TOSFOS DH Ika d'Amrei Imra Nami b'Udnei Eimor Derech Tzeda'in Nafak

úåñôåú ã"ä àéëà ãàîøé àéîøà ðîé áàåãðéä [àéîåø] ãøê öãòéï ðô÷

(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses which teachings can be like Rav Huna below.)

ëéåï ùøåàä òëùéå îéòåè (àåæï àéï ìåîø ùîà éöà øàùå åøåáå) [ö"ì äøàù àéï ìåîø ùîà éöà øåá øàùå - äøù"ù] åçæø

(a)

Explanation: Since now we see the minority of the head, he should not say "perhaps the majority of the head left and returned."

(åäà àéîø) [ö"ì åäàé àéîåø äåé - ùéèä î÷åáöú] ëîå åãàé ëîå çééùé' ùîà çåõ ìçåîä ìðå ãôø÷ äùåàì áùáú (ãó ÷ðà.) åãçééùéðï ùîà àéçøåäå åëúáåäå ãôø÷ àçã ãéðé îîåðåú (ñðäãøéï ìá.)

(b)

Assertion: This "Eimor" (say) is like Vadai (surely it left via the temples, i.e. face first), like "we are concerned lest they were outside the wall overnight", in Shabbos (151a), and "we are concerned lest they postdated it and wrote it" in Sanhedrin (32a).

åøáà ãäëà ñ''ì (ëøá çñãà) [ö"ì ëøáä - îäøù"à] ãô' áäîä äî÷ùä (çåìéï ñè:) ãìøá äåðà ãàîø äúí éöà ùìéù åîëøå ìòåáã ëåëáéí åéöà ùìéù àçø ÷ãåù åìà çìä äîëéøä ëìì ëéåï ãðô÷ ìáñåó øåáà ãàéúâìé îéìúà ãìîôøò ÷ãåù

(c)

Opinion #1: Rava here holds like Rabah in Chulin (69b), for according to Rav Huna, who says there that if a third left [the womb], and he sold it to a Nochri, and another third left, it is Kadosh and the sale did not take effect at all - since the majority left, it is revealed that retroactively it was Kadosh [from when it began to leave]...

à''ë äëà ðîé ùéöà øåá àçøé ëï àéâìàé îéìúà ãäåä ÷ãåù îòé÷øà åðúçééá îîä ùîèéì îåí ááëåø

1.

If so, also here that afterwards the majority left, it is revealed that retroactively it was Kadosh from the beginning, and he is liable for making a Mum in a Bechor!

åàéëà ìàå÷îé äà ãøá éäåãä àìéáà ãøá äåðà ëùìà éöà ëìì

(d)

Distinction: We can establish Rav Yehudah's teaching (one may blemish a Bechor before it leaves the womb) like Rav Huna, when it did not leave at all.

åñåâéà ðîé ãøéù ëéöã îòøéîéï (úîåøä ëã:) ãîå÷é ãøá éäåãä áæîï äæä åìà çæé ìä÷øáä åôøéê àé áæîï äæä îàé ìîéîøà åîùðé îäå ãúéîà ðâæø ãéìîà ðôé÷ øåá øàùå å÷à ùãé îåîà ÷î''ì

(e)

Observation: Also the Sugya in Temurah (24b), which Rav Yehudah establishes to discuss nowadays that it is not proper for Hakravah, and [the Gemara] asks "if it is nowadays, what is the Chidush?", and answers that one might have thought that we decree lest the majority of the head come out and he will make a Mum. [Rav Yehudah] teaches that this is not so...

ääéà ðîé ãìà ëøá äåðà ãìãéãéä áîéòåè øàùå ðîé àéëà àéñåøà åìà ä''ì ìîéð÷è øåá øàùå

1.

Also that is unlike Rav Huna, for according to him, also when the minority of the head came out there is an Isur. It should not have said the majority of the head!

i.

Note: Rav Yehudah can hold like Rav Huna. Tosfos means that the Gemara there, which answered for Rav Yehudah, holds like (or wanted to give to an answer that helps even for) Rabah.

åòåã äúí ã÷àîø ìéä øá òîøí ìøá ùùú àîø òì äáëåø òí éöéàú øåáå éäà òåìä òåìä äåé àå áëåø äåé ðîé ãìà ëøá äåðà ãîùîò ãôùéèà ã÷åãí éöéàú øåáå éëåì ìäô÷éò ÷ãåùú áëåø

(f)

Observation: Also there, Rav Amram said to Rav Sheshes 'if one said about a Bechor when the majority was leaving "it is an Olah", is it an Olah, or a Bechor?' Also this is unlike Rav Huna, for it connotes that it was obvious [to Rav Amram] that before the majority left, he can uproot Kedushas Bechor.

àí ìà ðçì÷ áéï îëéøä ìäðê:

(g)

Opinion #2: This is if we do not distinguish between a sale and the others. (In Temurah 24b DH Amar, Tosfos distinguished. One is more prone to err and sell after the majority left, than to make a Mum then. I.e. really, the Kedushah is not retroactive; it is a mere decree to say that it is.)

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3)

TOSFOS DH Meimar Amar Lo Shavik Tzurba mi'Rabanan v'Yahiv l'Didi

úåñôåú ã"ä îéîø àîø ìà ùáé÷ öåøáà îãøáðï åéäéá ìãéãé

(SUMMARY: Tosfos resolves this with a source that a Yisrael wants to give to his shepherd.)

åäà ãàîø ìòéì áñåó ôø÷ á' (ãó éç:) áçöø áòì äáéú åøåòä ëäï ãìø''è à÷ðåéé î÷ðé ìéä î÷åí áçöéøå

(a)

Implied question: It says above (18b) in the Chatzer of the Yisrael (the owner of the animals), and a Kohen shepherd, R. Tarfon holds that [the Yisrael] is Makneh (transfers ownership) place in his Chatzer [to the Kohen, so the Kohen will acquire Bechoros the moment they are born]!

åàôéìå ø''ò ìà ôìéâ àìà îùåí ãàéú [ìéä] ôñéãà ìà î÷ðä [ìéä] îéãòí

1.

And even R. Akiva argues only because the Yisrael has a loss (Safek Bechoros), so he is not Makneh anything!

äúí àééøé áîëéøé ëäåðä (àå - îùîøåú ëäåðä îåç÷å) ùàåäáå åøâéì ìéúï ìå

(b)

Answer: There it discusses Makirei Kehunah, that [the Yisrael] loves him and normally gives [his Matanos Kehunah] to him.

4)

TOSFOS DH Ika Beinaihu d'R. Yehoshua ben Kefusai

úåñôåú ã"ä àéëà áéðééäå ãøáé éäåùò áï ÷ôåñàé

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why the first Tana holds like R. Yehoshua.)

ãú''÷ ñáø ëååúéä ããåå÷à øåòé ëäðéí áéï áé éùøàì áéï áé ëäðéí àéðí ðàîðéí ëãàîø èòîà àáì ùðé ëäðéí îï äùå÷ ðàîðéí

(a)

Explanation: The first Tana holds like him. Only Kohanim shepherds, whether in a Yisrael's house or in a Kohen's house, are not believed, like he gives the reason (perhaps he will lie, for he hopes to receive some meat, or so the Ba'al ha'Bayis will do similarly for him). However, two Kohanim from the market (they do not work for the owner of the animals) are believed;

åìø''î àôé' ùðéí îï äùå÷ àéï ðàîðéï ãìéú ìéä ëøáé éäåùò áï ÷ôåñàé ã÷ñáø ø''î äçùåã òì äãáø ìà ãðå åìà îòéãå

1.

And according to R. Meir, even two Kohanim from the market are not believed, for he argues with R. Yehoshua ben Kefusai. R. Meir holds that one who is suspected about a matter may not judge it or testify about it.

åùðéí îï äùå÷ ã÷àîø ø' éäåùò áï ÷ôåñàé áëäðéí àééøé ãéùøàì àôéìå çã îäéîï

(b)

Explanation (cont.): "Two from the market" that R. Yehoshua ben Kefusai said refers to Kohanim, for even one Yisrael is believed;

åìø''î ëì äéëà (ãàñåø) [ö"ì ãçùåã - ùéèä î÷åáöú, öàï ÷ãùéí] àôé' ùðéí àéï ðàîðéï ëãàîø áñîåê ñô÷ áëåø ìø''î îé îòéã òìéå

1.

And according to R. Meir, whenever one is suspected, even two are not believed, like it says below "according to R. Meir, who can testify about a Safek Bechor?"

5)

TOSFOS DH v'Chi Teima d'Leis Lehu Takanta v'Chulei

úåñôåú ã"ä åëé úéîà ãìéú ìäå ú÷ðúà ëå'

(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses why we did not say that there is a solution through a Chaver.)

äåä îöé ìîéîø ãçì÷ðå áéï çáø ìòí äàøõ ëø' éäåùò ãì÷îï

(a)

Implied Question #1: He could have said that we distinguish between a Chaver and an Am ha'Aretz, like R. Yehoshua below (36a)!

åëï áñîåê ãôøéê ëäðé ä''ð ãìà ãééðé ãéðà

(b)

Implied Question #2: Also below, that it asks (since Kohanim are suspected about Mumim, will R. Meir say that) also they may not judge?!

[ö"ì àìà áòé ìàå÷îé àôé' àé ñ"ì ëø"â ì÷îï ãàîø ì÷îï ùìà çì÷ðå áéï çáø ìò"ä - ùéèä î÷åáöú]

(c)

Answer #1: [The Gemara] wants to resolve [R. Meir's opinion] even if he holds like R. Gamliel, who says below (36a) that we do not distinguish between a Chaver and an Am ha'Aretz.

à''ð ø' éäåùò òöîå çåæø áå ã÷à''ì ìø''â äéàê äçé éëåì ìäëçéù àú äçé åôéøù ùí á÷åðè' ùøåöä ìåîø åãàé àîøúé åçåæø àðé áå

(d)

Answer #2: R. Yehoshua himself retracted, for he said to R. Gamliel "how can a Chai (live person) contradict a Chai?" Rashi explained there that he wants to say "surely I said so, and I retract."

åîéäå îñúáøà ãîùåí ëáåã ãø''â äåà ã÷àîø äëé

(e)

Rebuttal: Presumably, [he did not retract;] he said so due to the honor of R. Gamliel;

ëé ääéà ãúôìú òøáéú (áøëåú ãó ëæ:) ùàîø ëîå ëï àò''ô ùìà äéä çåæø áå îä ùàîø úçìä øùåú ãäëé ôñ÷ øá äúí äìëä ëãáøé äàåîø øùåú

1.

This is like regarding Tefilas Ma'ariv (Brachos 27b) that he said similarly ("how can a Chai..."), even though he did not retract from what he said initially that it is Reshus, for so Rav rules there like the one who says that it is Reshus.

6)

TOSFOS DH Ela Lav Shma Minah Ba'alim Me'idin Alav

úåñôåú ã"ä àìà ìàå ù''î áòìéí îòéãéï òìéå

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why we did not challenge Rav Chisda above.)

úéîä åøá çñãà ãáòé ìòéì ùðéí îï äùå÷ áñô÷ áëåø áé éùøàì ú÷ùé ìéä ìø''î îé îòéã òìéå ëéåï ãéùøàì ðîé çùéãé

(a)

Question: Above, Rav Chisda requires two from the market for a Safek Bechor in a Yisrael's house. We should challenge him "according to R. Meir, who testifies about it?", since also Yisraelim are suspected!

åé''ì ãäåä îùðé ëãôøéùéú ãçì÷ðå áéï çáø ìò''ä

(b)

Answer #1: He would answer like I explained, that we distinguish between a Chaver and an Am ha'Aretz.

à''ð éàîø øá çñãà ñô÷ áëåø ìà éçîéø ø''î ùìà éäå ùðéí îï äùå÷ ðàîðéí

(c)

Answer #2: Rav Chisda would say that R. Meir would not stringent about a Safek Bechor, not to believe two from the market.

7)

TOSFOS DH Neichush l'Chashda

úåñôåú ã"ä ðéçåù ìçùãà

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains what the concern is.)

ùéçùãå ùîà ðùàø àçã îï äáéú

(a)

Explanation: People will suspect lest someone in the household remained inside [and made the Mum].

8)

TOSFOS DH Kahani Hachi Nami d'Lo Dainei Dina

úåñôåú ã"ä ëäðé äëé ðîé ãìà ãééðé ãéðà

(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses whether or not this question is according to everyone.)

ìøáà ãàîø áô' æä áåøø (ñðäãøéï ëæ.) àåëì ðáéìåú ìäëòéñ ùäåà øò ìùîéí àéðå çùåã ìäéåú øò ìáøéåú ìà ôøéê îéãé àáì ìàáéé äúí ôøéê ùôéø

(a)

Explanation #1: According to Rava, who said in Sanhedrin (27a) that one who eats Neveilos to anger [Hash-m], who is evil to Shamayim, is not suspected to be evil to people, this is not difficult at all. However, according to Abaye there, it is a proper question.

åòåã éù ìôøù [ö"ì ãôøéê - ùéèä î÷åáöú ëúá éã] ìøáà ãîùîò ìéä ùéù ìëäðéí ìäéåú ëùøéí ìëì (æîï) ãéï ùáòåìí åìëì äåøàä ëãëúéá (ãáøéí ëà) ëì øéá åëì ðâò

(b)

Explanation #2: He asks [even] according to Rava, for it connotes to [the Makshan] that Kohanim should be Kosher for every judgment in the world, and for every ruling, for it says "[v'Al Pihem Yihyeh] Kol Riv v'Chol Naga"!

åòåã äéä éëåì ìä÷ùåú äéàê îåúø ìàëåì îùçéèúå åäéàê ëùøéí òì ëì ÷øáðåú ëåìí

(c)

Observation: He could have asked how one may eat from what [a Kohen] slaughtered, and how all Korbanos are Kosher (even those that the Yisrael slaughters, e.g. Korban Pesach, and those that are not eaten);

åòåã áìà áëåø ðîé éëåì ìä÷ùåú ìøáé îàéø îèòí ãðçùãå ëäðéí òì äùáéòéú ëãàîøéðï áôø÷ æä áåøø (ñðäãøéï ëå.):

1.

And also without Bechor, he could ask according to R. Meir from the reason that Kohanim are suspected about Shevi'is, like we say in Sanhedrin (26a).

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