1)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah, someone who Shechts a locust to an Avodah-Zarah (even one that is not normally worshipped in that way [see Tosfos DH 'Chayav']), is Chayav. What do the Chachamim say?

(b)Based on what we just learned, how do we initially attempt to explain the Machlokes?

(c)And what prompts us to explain that Rebbi Yehudah also concurs with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav's ruling in the case of someone who breaks a stick in front of an Avodah-Zarah ... ?

(d)We reject this suggestion however, inasmuch as even Rebbi Yehudah might well require 'ke'Ein P'nim' (in which case even he will exempt a case of someone who breaks a stick). On what grounds then, does he hold Chayav in the case of a locust, despite the fact that locusts are not subject to Shechitah?

1)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah, someone who Shechts a locust to an Avodah-Zarah (even one that is not nomally worshipped in that way [see Tosfos DH 'Chayav']), is Chayav. According to the Chachamim - he is Patur.

(b)Initially, based on what we just learned - Rebbi Yehudah holds the S'vara of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav (who does not require Ke'ein P'nim), whereas the Chachamim require Ke'ein P'nim.

(c)And what prompts us to explain that Rebbi Yehudah concurs with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav's ruling in the case of someone who breaks a stick in front of an Avodah-Zarah ... is - the fact that he presents the case of a locust, and not of a duck or a chicken, which require Shechitah.

(d)We reject this suggestion however, inasmuch as even Rebbi Yehudah might well require 'ke'Ein P'nim' (in which case even he will exempt a case of someone who breaks a stick). Nevertheless, he holds Chayav in the case of a locust (despite the fact that locusts are not subject to Shechitah) - inasmuch as it does at least, have a neck, which renders the Shechitah sufficiently similar to that in the Beis-Hamikdash to be Chayav.

2)

(a)Rav Nachman Amar ... Rav concurs with the ruling of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav with regard to breaking a stick. What does he rule in a case where he throws it?

(b)On what grounds do we equate Rav Nachman Amar ... Rav with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, even though the latter holds that he is Patur for throwing the stick?

(c)What dimension does Rav Nachman Amar ... Rav add (in connection of the stick's status) to both cases?

(d)Rava asked Rav Nachman why, seeing as it is similar to Zerikah, if he throws it, it does not become Asur. What did Rav Nachman reply?

2)

(a)Rav Nachman Amar ... Rav concurs with the ruling of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav with regard to breaking a stick. He rules however that - one is also Chayav for throwing it.

(b)We equate Rav Nachman Amar ... Rav with Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, even though the latter holds that he is Patur for throwing the stick - because he is speaking in a case where that is the way in which the Avodah-Zarah is worshipped.

(c)He also adds - that in the first case, the stick becomes Asur, whereas in the second case, it does not.

(d)When Rava asked Rav Nachman why, seeing as it is similar to Zerikah, if he throws the stick, it does not become Asur, he replied that - this is because it does not break into particles, like the Zerikas Dam in the Beis-Hamikdash (as we already explained in a slightly different context).

3)

(a)What did Rava then ask Rav Nachman from the stones of Beis Markulis?

(b)Rav Nachman himself had the same problem, which he put to Rabah bar Avuhah, who in turn, asked Rebbi Chiya bar Rav, who asked his father. What did Rav reply?

(c)And what did Rav Nachman explain to Rava when he queried this ...

1. ... from the Tana who holds that the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri does not become Asur be'Hana'ah until it has been worshipped (which the stone that one throws at Markulis does not seem to have been)?

2. ... from the last stone, which has certainly not yet been worshipped?

(d)Rav Ashi goes one step further. What reason does he give to explain why even the last stone is Asur, too?

(e)Why do we not then say the same S'vara regarding the stick that one throws in front of the Avodah-Zarah?

3)

(a)In that case, Rava asked Rav Nachman further - on what grounds do the stones of Beis Markulis (which do not break into particles either) become Asur?

(b)Rav Nachman himself had the same problem, which he put to Rabah bar Avuhah, who in turn, asked Rebbi Chiya bar Rav, who asked his father, who replied that - each stone becomes part of a tower of Avodas-Kochavim (in which capacity it is Asur be'Hana'ah).

(c)When Rava queried this ...

1. ... from the Tana who holds that the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri does not become Asur be'Hana'ah until it has been worshipped (which the stone that one throws at Markulis does not seem to have been) Rav Nachman replied that - besides becoming an Avodah-Zarah in its own right, each stone becomes a Tikroves for the ones that preceded it (so that each stone subsequently becomes worshipped when the next stone is thrown at it).

2. ... from the last stone, which has certainly not yet been worshipped he replied that - if Rava would point out the last stone, he would gladly permit it.

(d)Rav Ashi goes one step further. According to him - each stone because a Tikroves to itself as well as to the ones before it (in which case, even the last stone will be Asur, too).

(e)We do not say the same S'vara regarding the stick that one threw in front of the Avodah-Zarah - because a stick is not generally worshipped (like the stones of Markulis are).

4)

(a)What does the Mishnah on Amud 'Beis' say about finding on the head of an Avodah-Zarah ...

1. ... garments, money or vessels?

2. ... bunches of grapes, garlands of wheat, or wine, oil or flour?

(b)What problem do we have with bunches of grapes and garlands of wheat in the latter list?

(c)How does Rava Amar Ula establish the case to solve the problem?

4)

(a)The Mishnah on Amud 'Beis' rules that if one finds on the head of an Avodah-Zarah ...

1. ... garments, money or vessels - they are permitted.

2. ... bunches of grapes, garlands of wheat, or wine, oil or flour - they are forbidden.

(b)The problem with bunches of grapes and garlands of wheat in the latter list is that - they are neither 'ke'Ein P'nim' nor 'Zerikah ha'Mishtaberes' (so why are they forbidden?)

(c)To solve the problem, Rava Amar Ula establishes the case - where they were initially picked for that purpose (in which case they immediately became Avodah-Zarah.

5)

(a)What does Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan learn from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "Zove'ach la'Elohim Yochoram, Bilti la'Hashem Levado" (with regard to someone who Shechts a blemished animal to Avodah-Zarah)?

(b)How does Rava prove that Rebbi Yochanan cannot be speaking about a cataract on the eye (or some similar external blemish)?

(c)So we establish it based on Rebbi Elazar's D'rashah. What does Rebbi Elazar learn from the Pasuk in No'ach "u'mi'Kol ha'Chai mi'Kol Basar, Shenayim mi'Kol"?

(d)Then what do we learn from the Pasuk there "Lechayos Zera"?

(e)What problem do we have with that D'rashah?

5)

(a)Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan learns from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "Zove'ach la'Elohim Yochoram, Bilti la'Hashem Levado" - that if someone Shechts a blemished animal to Avodah-Zarah, he is Patur (seeing as it would be Pasul if he did it for Hash-m).

(b)Rava proves that Rebbi Yochanan cannot be speaking about a cataract on the eye (or some similar external blemish) - because such a blemish is even permitted Lechatchilah on an animal that a Nochri brings to Hash-m.

(c)So we establish it based on Rebbi Elazar, who learns from the Pasuk in No'ach "u'mi'Kol ha'Chai mi'Kol Basar, Shenayim mi'Kol" that - an animal that is missing a limb is Pasul (even as regards B'nei No'ach) (bearing in mind that No'ach was told to take into the boat seven of each kind of Kasher animal only in order to bring Korbanos from the extra ones).

(d)And we learn from the Pasuk "Lechayos Zera" - to disqualify a T'reifah (which cannot can give birth to babies) from being brought as a Korban.

(e)The problem with that D'rashah is - according to the opinion that holds that a T'reifah can give birth to babies.

6)

(a)From where do we therefore learn to disqualify the T'reifos of a ben No'ach?

(b)What do we learn from the word ...

1. ... "Tamim"?

2. ... "Tzadik"?

6)

(a)We therefore learn to disqualify the T'reifos of a ben No'ach - from the word in the same Pasuk "Itach" in that just as No'ach was not a T'reifah, so too, were the animals that he took with him in the Teivah not T'reifos.

(b)We learn from the word ...

1. ... "Tamim" - that No'ach was perfect in his ways (in Midos).

2. ... "Tzadik" - that his deeds were perfect too.

7)

(a)From where do we know that No'ach himself was not a T'reifah?

(b)Now that we preclude T'reifah animals from "Itach", why do we need "Le'chayos Zera"?

(c)What would we otherwise have thought?

7)

(a)We know that No'ach himself was not a T'reifah - because otherwise, why did the Torah write "Itach"?

(b)Even though we preclude T'reifah animals from "Itach", we still need "Le'chayos Zera" - to preclude also animals that are too old to have children and Serisim (sterile animals) that cannot have children.

(c)We would otherwise have thought that - Hash-m only precluded T'reifos, because of the likelihood that they would die during the year, but accepted animals that would survive the year, even if they could not have children.

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8)

(a)What does Rebbi Elazar learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos "ve'Lo Yizb'chu Od es Zivcheihem la'Se'irim"?

(b)How do we know that this Pasuk is not needed to teach us the prohibition of Shechting for an Avodah-Zarah that is worshipped in this way?

8)

(a)Rebbi Elazar learns from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem la'Se'irim" that - someone who Shechts to Markulis (which is not normally worshipped by means of Shechitah) is Chayav.

(b)This Pasuk is not needed to teach us the prohibition of Shechting for an Avodah-Zarah that is worshipped in this way - because we already know that from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Eichah Ya'avdu ha'Goyim ha'Eileh es Eloheihem ... ".

9)

(a)The Pesukim prior to the one under discussion are referring to the Isur of Shechutei Chutz ("ve'el Pesach Ohel Mo'ed Lo Hevi'o ... "). What is 'Shechutei Chutz'? To what punishment is it subject?

(b)What is then the significance of the Pasuk in Re'ei "Hishamer l'cha Pen Ta'aleh Olosecha be'Chol Makom ... "?

(c)We learn this this from a statement of Rebbi Avin Amar Rebbi Ila. What did Rebbi Avin bar Ila say about "Hishamer", "Pen"and "Al"?

(d)What do we then learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos ...

1. ... "Lema'an asher Yavi'u b'nei Yisrael es Zivcheihem asher Heim Zovchim al-P'nei ha'Sadeh ... Ve'hevi'um la'Hashem"?

2. ... "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem"?

3. ... Chukas Olam le'Doroseichem"?

(e)Seeing as we need the Pasuk "ve'Lo Yizb'chu Od es Zivcheihem" for the current D'rashah, how does Rava explain Rebbi Elazar, who uses it to obligate someone who Shechts an animal to Markulis?

9)

(a)The Pesukim ("ve'el Pesach Ohel Mo'ed Lo Hevi'o ... " prior to the one under discussion are referring to the Isur of Shechutei Chutz - Shechting and sacrificing animals outside the Azarah at a time when Bamos are forbidden, for which one receives Kareis (as the Pasuk continues "Ve'nichresah").

(b)The Pasuk in Re'ei "Hishamer l'cha Pen Ta'aleh Olosecha be'Chol Makom ... " - is the Azharah.

(c)We learn this this from a statement of Rebbi Avin Amar Rebbi Ila, who taught that - "Hishamer", "Pen"and "Al" all denote a 'Lo Sa'aseh'.

(d)And we learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos ...

1. ... "Lema'an asher Yavi'u b'nei Yisrael es Zivcheihem asher Heim Zovchim al-P'nei ha'Sadeh ... Ve'hevi'um la'Hashem" that - if someone takes an animal that is designated at the time when Bamos are permitted, and Shechts (or sacrifices) it after they became forbidden, he has transgresses an Asei, and from ...

2. ... "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem" that - he has also transgressed a Lo Sa'aseh.

3. ... "Chukas Olam le'Doroseichem" - that Kareis is confined to the original case (where one Shechts or sacrifices an animal that is designated as a Korban at the time when Bamos are forbidden), but not to the latter case.

(e)Rava explains that, despite the fact that we need the Pasuk "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem" for the current D'rashah, Rebbi Elazar uses it to obligate someone who Shechts an animal to Markulis - because he learns an additional D'rashah from the word "Od" (as if the Torah had written "ve'Lo Yizbechu es Zivcheihem" and "ve'Lo Od es Zivcheihem").

10)

(a)We already discussed our Mishnah ('Matza be'Rosho Ma'os ... ') on the previous Amud. What does the Tana conclude regarding anything that one finds on the head of the Avodah-Zarah that is eligible to go on the Mizbe'ach?

(b)How does Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef Amar Rebbi Oshaya explain the apparent discrepancy between the Pasuk in Nitzavim "Eitz va'Even, Kesef ve'Zahav asher Imahem" (which are in their vicinity) and the Pasuk in Eikev "Lo Sachmod Kesef ve'Zahav Aleihem (which are on them)?

(c)What exactly does he mean by that?

(d)Why did he not Darshen the other way round 'Aleihem Dumya de'Imahem' (to forbid even silver and gold that are not ornamental)?

(e)How does de'bei Rebbi Yanai explains the fact that the Tana categorizes as non ornamental ...

1. ... money?

2. ... clothes?

3. ... a vessel (Rav Papa)?

10)

(a)We already discussed our Mishnah ('Matza be'Rosho Ma'os ... ') on the previous Amud. The Tana concludes that anything that one finds on the head of the Avodah-Zarah that is eligible to go on the Mizbe'ach - is forbidden.

(b)To answer the discrepancy between the Pasuk in Nitzavim "Eitz va'Even, Kesef ve'Zahav asher Imahem" (which are in their vicinity) and the Pasuk in Eikev "Lo Sachmod Kesef ve'Zahav Aleihem (which are on them), Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef Amar Rebbi Oshaya learns 'Imahem Dumya de'Aleihem ...

(c)... meaning that - what is in front of the Avodah-Zarah (in the first Pasuk [even the wood and the stones]) is only forbidden if it is ornamental, like what is on them (the silver and the gold in the second Pasuk).

(d)He did not Darshen the other way round 'Aleihem Dumya de'Imahem' (to forbid even silver and gold that are not ornamental) - because if what is in front of the Avodah-Zarah is totally forbidden, how much more so what is on them (in which case the whole phrase [of "Lo Sachmod ... "Aleihem"] would be superfluous). Alternatively, we would know it from the word "asher Imahem, which would otherwise be superfluous").

(e)de'bei Rebbi Yanai explains that the Tana categorizes as non-ornamental ...

1. ... money - because he is speaking about money in a closed purse.

2. ... clothes - because he is speaking about clothes that are lying folded on the Avodah-Zarah's head.

3. ... a vessel, explains Rav Papa - because the Tana is speaking about a turned-over dish (for washing clothes) placed on its head.

11)

(a)Rav Shimi bar Chiya qualifies the above D'rashah of 'Imahem' Dumya de'Aleihem', by confining 'Imahem' to what is found outside the Kilk'lin. What is the 'Kilk'lin?

(b)What does Rav Shimi bar Chiya actually say? What distinction does he draw between within the Kilk'lin and outside it?

(c)What is his reason for the first of the dual rulings?

(d)Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina adds that Pe'or and Markulis are not subject to the distinction of 'Kilk'lin'. Why can he not mean that even within the curtain has the same Din as outside it and is only forbidden if it is ornamental?

(e)Then what does he mean?

11)

(a)Rav Shimi bar Chiya qualifies the above D'rashah of 'Imahem Dumya de'Aleihem', by confining 'Imahem' to what is found outside the Kilk'lin - (the partition in front of the idol).

(b)What Rav Shimi bar Chiya actually says is that whatever is within the Kilk'lin, even water and salt, is forbidden; whereas whatever is outside it, is only forbidden provided it is ornamental.

(c)The reason for the first ruling is - because whatever is found within the curtain, is sacrificial, rather than ornamental (and sacrifices do not need to be beautiful).

(d)When Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina adds that Pe'or and Markulis are not subject to the distinction of Kilk'lin, he cannot mean that even within the curtain has the same Din as outside it and is only forbidden if it is ornamental - because one can hardly expect any standard of beauty from an Avodah-Zarah in front of which one defecates (Ba'al Pe'or) or at which one throws stones (Markulis).

(e)What he obviously means is that - even what one finds outside the curtain does not need to be ornamental in order to be forbidden.

12)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about deriving benefit from a garden or a bathhouse in front of which there is an Avodas-Kochavim, presuming it belongs to ...

1. ... the Avodah-Zarah exclusively?

2. ... others as well?

(b)The Tana forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made. What does he say about the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael?

12)

(a)Our Mishnah permits deriving benefit from a garden or a bathhouse in front of which there is an Avodas-Kochavim, presuming it belongs to ...

1. ... the Avodah-Zarah exclusively - provided one does not pay rent.

2. ... others as well - even if he does pay rent (this distinction will be explained shortly).

(b)The Tana forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made, but the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael - only after it has been worshipped.

13)

(a)How does Abaye explain 'she'Lo be'Tovah' and 'be'Tovah' regarding a garden belonging to an Avodah-Zarah?

(b)What does this come to preclude?

(c)Others learn Abaye's statement on the Seifa 'Hayah she'lah ve'Shel Acheirim'. How does Abaye then interpret ...

1. ... 'Nehenin meihen be'Tovah'?

2. ... 've'she'Lo be'Tovah'?

(d)In which point does the first Lashon disagree with the second?

13)

(a)Abaye explains 'she'Lo be'Tovah' and 'be'Tovah' regarding a garden belonging to an Avodah-Zarah with reference to - not paying or paying the priests rent ...

(b)This comes to preclude paying rent to the idol's adherents - which is permitted.

(c)Others learn Abaye's statement on the Seifa 'Hayah she'lah ve'Shel Acheirim', in which case ...

1. ... 'Nehenin meihen be'Tovah' - refers to its adherents, and ...

2. ... 've'she'Lo be'Tovah' - to the priests.

(d)The first Lashon disagrees with the second Lashon's ruling - which, in the case of a shared garden or bathhouse - permits even paying rent to the priests.

14)

(a)The author of our Mishnah which forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made, is Rebbi Akiva. What does Rebbi Yishmael in a Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei ...

1. ... "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Makomos"?

2. ... "asher Avdu Sham ha'Goyim"?

(b)What does he conclude from all this?

(c)And he goes on to forbid the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael immediately. What does Rebbi Akiva say?

14)

(a)The author of our Mishnah which forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made, is Rebbi Akiva. Rebbi Yishmael in a Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Re'ei ...

1. ... "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Makomos" that - vessels that were used to worship idols are Asur be'Hana'ah.

2. ... "asher Avdu Sham ha'Goyim" that - they are not forbidden until they are actually used for that purpose.

(b)And he therefore concludes that - the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri is only forbidden once it has actually been worshipped.

(c)And he goes on to forbid the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael immediately. Rebbi Akiva says - the opposite (that the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri is forbidden immediately, whereas that of a Yisrael is only forbidden after it has been worshipped0.

15)

(a)Bearing in mind Rebbi Yishmael's source in Re'ei, what problem do we have from the fact that his initial ruling concerns vessels with which they served Avodah-Zarah?

(b)What do we learn from the Pasuk there "Eloheihem al he'Harim"? How does that solve our problem?

(c)Rebbi Yishmael then concludes 'mi'Ka'An Amru Avodas Kochavim shel Oveid-Kochavim Asurah Miyad'. What problem do we now have with this?

(d)What do we learn from the Pasuk (also in Re'ei) "Asher atem Yorshim Osam es Eloheihem"? How does that solve the problem?

15)

(a)Seeing as Rebbi Yishmael's source is the Pasuk in Re'ei, "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Mekonos", we ask - how he can learn from there the Din of vessels with which they served Avodah-Zarah.

(b)We learn from the Pasuk there "Eloheihem al he'Harim" that - the actual location where Avodah-Zarah was worshipped is forbidden. Consequently, the Pasuk "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Mekomos" is superfluous, which explains why Rebbi Yishmael uses it ('Im Eino Inyan') to learn the Din of Keilim.

(c)Rebbi Yishmael then concludes 'mi'Ka'an Amru, Avodas Kochavim shel Oveid-Kochavim Asurah Miyad'. The problem with this is that - here too, the source Pasuk is talking about vessels, and Rebbi Yishmael concludes with the Din of Avodah-Zarah.

(d)We learn from the Pasuk "Asher atem Yorshim Osam es Eloheihem" that - the Nochrim's gods are compared to the vessels with which they are worshipped, thereby justifying Rebbi Yishmael's conclusion.

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