ZEVACHIM 120 (30 Av) - Dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Esther Chaya Rayzel (Friedman) bas Gershon Eliezer (Yahrzeit: 30 Av, Yom Kevurah: 1 Elul) by her son-in-law, Eli Turkel of Raanana, Israel. Esther Friedman was a woman of valor who was devoted to her family and gave of herself unstintingly, inspiring all those around her.

1)

TOSFOS DH Bo'i Rav Ada Olas Bamas Yachid she'Hichnisah... (cont.)

úåñôåú ã"ä áòé øá àãà òåìú áîú éçéã ùäëðéñä... (äîùê)

àáì áñôøéí éùðéí âøñéðï ÷ãùé ÷ãùéí ùùçèï áãøåí îåòìéï áäï àí òìå ìà éøãå åàéáòéà ìäå éøãå îäå ùéòìå øáä àîø ìà éòìå øá éåñó àîø éòìå úéáòé ìøáä ëå'

(a)

Version #2: The text in old Seforim is "Kodshei Kodoshim that were slaughtered in the south, Me'ilah applies to them, and Im Alah Lo Yered. They asked, if they descended, do they ascend? Rabah said that they do not ascend, and Rav Yosef said that they ascend. We can ask according to Rabah..."

åîééøé áîùìä áäï äàåø ìäëé ìë''ò àí òìå ìà éøãå

1.

We discuss when they caught fire. Therefore, all agree that Im Alah Lo Yered.

åáøéù îòéìä (ãó á:) ãàîø øáä àí òìå éøãå îééøé áìà îùìä áäï äàåø

2.

In Me'ilah (2b), Rabah said Im Alah Yered. This discusses without catching fire.

åúãò áìà ääéà ãîòéìä öøéê ìàå÷îà äëà áîùìä áäï äàåø ãàé áìà îùìä àîàé àîø øá éåñó àí éøãå éòìå

3.

[Even] without the Gemara in Me'ilah (2b), we must establish it here when it caught fire, for if it did not catch fire, why did Rav Yosef say that Im Yarad Ya'aleh?

äà àîøéðï ôø÷ á''ù (ìòéì îâ.) ëùí ùàí òìå ìà éøãå ëê àí éøãå ìà éòìå åëì ùëï áùçéèú ãøåí ãâøåò îùàø ôñåìéï

i.

We said above (43a) "just like Im Alah Lo Yered, Im Yarad Lo Ya'aleh", and all the more so regarding what was slaughtered in the south, which is worse than other Pesulim!

åäëà îééøé áäëðéñä çéä å÷ìèåä ëãéï áîä âãåìä ìäöøéê ëéäåï åøéçåõ éãéí åøâìéí îï äëéåø åàí äéà ùìîéí áòé úðåôú çæä åùå÷

4.

Here we discuss when he entered it alive, and [the Mechitzos] absorbed it to get the law of [Kodshei] Bamah Gedolah, to obligate Kehunah, washing hands and feet from the Kiyor, and if it is a Shelamim it requires Tenufah of Chazah v'Shok.

åìôé âéøñà æå âøñéðï áñîåê àáøé òåìú áîú éçéã ùòìå ìîæáç ùì áîä âãåìä åéøãå îäå ùéòìå

(b)

Consequence: According to this text, below the text says "limbs of an Olah of a Bamas Yachid that ascended on the Mizbe'ach of a Bamah Gedolah and descended, do we bring them up [again]?"

ôéøåù ãëéåï ãùçèï áçåõ ùîà äåé ëîå ùçèï áãøåí

1.

Explanation: Since he slaughtered them outside, perhaps it is like Shechitah in the south;

(åâí) [ö"ì àå] ùîà ëéåï ùùçèä áäéúø áçåõ ááîú éçéã ùìëê ä÷ãéùä úçéìä ìëåìé òìîà äéëà ãîùìä äàåø éòìä

2.

Or, since he was slaughtered it b'Heter outside on a Bamas Yachid, for he was Makdish it for this initially, all agree that if it caught fire, Ya'aleh?

àáì ììùåï øàùåï ãîáòéà ìéä áìà îùìä åîãîé ìéä ìùçéèú ãøåí äìà ôùéèà àôé' ùàø ôñåìéï ãìà âøéòé ëîå ùçéèú ãøåí àí òìå åéøãå ìà éòìå

(c)

Distinction: However, according to Version #1, that we ask about when it did not catch fire, and we compare it to Shechitah in the south, obviously, even for other Pesulim that are not as bad as Shechitah in the south, Im Alah v'Yarad, Lo Ya'aleh.

ëãàîø òåìà ôø÷ á''ù (ùí) àí ìà îùìä áäï äàåø ëùí ùàí òìå ìà éøãå ëê àí éøãå ìà éòìå

1.

This is like Ula said above (43a), that if it did not catch fire, just like Im Alah Lo Yered, so Im Yarad Lo Ya'aleh.

åöøéê ìåîø äà ã÷àîø îéìúà ãôùéèà ìøáä åøá éåñó îéáòéà ìéä ìøáé éðàé äééðå ìàéëà ãàîøé:

(d)

Consequence: We must say that what was taught "a matter that was obvious to Rabah and Rav Yosef, R. Yanai was unsure about it" is according to Version #2 (of Rami bar Chama. According to Version #1, it gets the law of Kodshei Bamah Gedolah. Surely Ya'aleh, even if it did not catch fire!)

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