1) HAVING IN MIND TO FEED THE MEAT OF A KORBAN TO DOGS
QUESTION: Rebbi Yanai states that when a person has intention, when offering a Korban, to feed a k'Zayis of the meat to dogs Chutz l'Zemano, the Korban becomes Pigul.
TOSFOS (DH Chishev) asks that this seems to contradict the conclusion of the Gemara later (36b). The Gemara there concludes that when a person has intention to feed the meat of a Korban to people who are Tamei, Chutz l'Zemano, such a thought does not render the Korban invalid as Pigul. This is because the people who are Tamei are not fit to eat the Korban, and one must have a thought of an acceptable act of eating Chutz l'Zemano in order to invalidate the Korban. Why, then, does the Korban become Pigul when one has in mind to feed the meat to dogs? Dogs are no better than people who are Tamei, and the Korban should remain valid!
ANSWERS:
(a) TOSFOS (36b, DH she'Yochluhu) answers that having a thought of a Tamei person eating is not considered having a thought of a proper eating, because as soon as the Tamei person touches the meat it becomes Tamei, and thus the person is not eating permissible meat. Even if someone else places the meat in the mouth of the Tamei person without him touching it with his hands, the fact that he could make the meat Tamei before he eats it makes the thought ineffective with regard to Pigul. In contrast, when dogs eat the meat, they do not make it Tamei. A similar answer is cited in the SHITAH MEKUBETZES (31a).
(See SEFAS EMES, who asks why the prohibition against giving food of Kodshim to dogs is not equivalent to making the food become Tamei.)
(b) The Shitah Mekubetzes quotes the RIVA (in his second answer) who answers that since it is not within the person's power to actualize his intention of having Tamei people eat the Korban (since perhaps they will refuse when he offers it to them or insists that they eat it), his thought is unable to make the Korban Pigul. A thought of Pigul is ineffective only when it is within the power of the person to carry out his thought. In contrast, it is considered within his power to feed the meat to the dogs.
The MIKDASH DAVID (33:1) has difficulty with the answer of the Riva. If the reason why a thought that Tamei people will eat the Korban does not create Pigul is that he cannot make them eat it, then having a thought that Tahor people will eat the Korban also should not cause Pigul, because it is not in one's power to make them eat the meat of the Korban (and it is very likely that they will agree to do so, since it is Chutz l'Zemano). (See EIZEHU MEKOMAN.)
(c) The RIVA (in his first answer) says that the question does not begin. The Gemara later (36b) quotes Rav Chisda who says that the thought of giving a k'Zayis to a Tamei person to eat Chutz l'Zemano does create Pigul. Rava supports this ruling by comparing the case to an ordinary case of Pigul before Zerikah. When the person thinks his Pigul thought, the meat is not yet fit to be eaten and, nevertheless, the thought to eat that meat at a later time, Chutz l'Zemano, makes the Korban Pigul. Accordingly, having a thought to feed the meat to Tamei people (even though the meat is not fit to be eaten by them, since they make it Tamei) should also render it Pigul! The Gemara says that Rava's proof is not valid, because in an ordinary case of Pigul, the meat would have become fit (were it not for the Pigul thought) after the Zerikah, and thus the person indeed had a thought to eat meat that was fit. In the case of Tamei people, the meat would become Pasul as soon as the Tamei people would touch it.
The Riva understands (unlike the other explanations above) that the Gemara's response is addressing Rava's proof, and not Rav Chisda's ruling. Accordingly, the Halachah remains that both thoughts -- feeding the meat to dogs and feeding the meat to Tamei people -- can create Pigul. The KESEF MISHNEH (Hilchos Pesulei ha'Mukdashin 14:9) and LIKUTEI HALACHOS explain that this is also the understanding of the RAMBAM, who rules like Rav Chisda.
(d) The TZON KODASHIM follows the approach of the first two explanations mentioned above, but he suggests a different way to differentiate between Tamei people and dogs. Since Tamei people are forbidden from eating the Korban because they are Tamei, it is not deemed a thought of "eating." In contrast, a dog is not forbidden from eating the Korban. Even though one is not supposed to feed Kodshim to a dog, from the dog's perspective there is no reason why his eating of Kodshim should not be called eating. (See a similar explanation in PANIM ME'IROS 31b, DH she'Ein). (Y. MONTROSE)
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2) HAVING IN MIND TO EAT THE MEAT OF A KORBAN WITHIN "KEDEI ACHILAS PERAS"
QUESTION: Rav Ashi asks whether or not having a thought that two people will each eat half of a k'Zayis of the Korban Chutz l'Zemano creates Pigul. Abaye infers the answer to this question from the Mishnah. The Mishnah (29b) states that if a person thinks about eating half of a k'Zayis and burning half of a k'Zayis, the two intentions do not combine to invalidate the Korban, because the act of eating and the act of burning are not compatible. This implies that in a case where both intentions are of a similar nature, even if the intended actions are done separately they invalidate the Korban. This shows that even if the thought was that two separate people should eat a total of a k'Zayis, it can make a Korban Pasul.
Based on the above logic, the Acharonim have difficulty understanding the Gemara's next question. Rava asks: Does having a thought to eat, Chutz l'Zemano, a k'Zayis in more time than "Kedei Achilas Peras" (the amount of time which constitutes one act of eating) invalidate a Korban? Is a thought to eat a Korban Chutz l'Zemano comparable to the Mizbe'ach's "eating" of the Korban, for which this time period does not apply, or is it comparable to an ordinary person's act of eating, for which this time period does apply? Abaye answers this question as well from the Mishnah (29b). The Mishnah says that a thought of eating is incompatible with a thought of burning. This implies that if they were compatible, they would make the Korban Pigul -- even though the burning on the Mizbe'ach usually takes longer than Kedei Achilas Peras! The Gemara responds that this proof is inconclusive, because the Mishnah might be referring to a case in which there is a large fire on the Mizbe'ach, and the meat is totally burned within the time period of Kedei Achilas Peras.
What is Rava's doubt? The Gemara already accepted Abaye's proof that a thought of two different people eating a total of a k'Zayis can invalidate the Korban. He makes no mention of any need for the two people to eat a k'Zayis within a time period of Kedei Achilas Peras of each other's eating; the issue of Kedei Achilas Peras is not relevant to two different people, and yet the Korban is still Pasul! Why, then, does Rava entertain the possibility that one must have a thought to eat the k'Zayis of meat within the time period of Kedei Achilas Peras in order to invalidate the Korban?
ANSWERS:
(a) The SEFAS EMES answers that Abaye is simply repeating the proof he gave to Rava in response to the first question.
The Sefas Emes uses this explanation to clarify the words of the RAMBAM (Hilchos Pesulei ha'Mukdashin 14:10). The Rambam rules that when one has a thought to eat the k'Zayis in more time than Kedei Achilas Peras, the Korban still becomes Pasul. If the Gemara does not conclusively answer the question, then how does the Rambam know this Halachah? The KESEF MISHNEH explains that the Rambam maintains that the answer of the Gemara to Abaye's proof -- that the Mishnah is talking about a large fire on the Mizbe'ach which consumes the Korban within a period of Kedei Achilas Peras -- is an attempt to reject the proof with a weak suggestion, and not with a strong rebuttal. Accordingly, the Rambam follows the stronger logic of Abaye's proof.
Alternatively, the Kesef Mishneh suggests that the Rambam might have had a different Girsa in the Gemara. His Girsa did not include the Gemara's rebuttal at all.
The Sefas Emes disagrees with the Kesef Mishneh's first suggestion. The fact that the fire on the Mizbe'ach could consume a k'Zayis of meat within Kedei Achilas Peras was probably the normal way that the fire burned. This would mean that the Gemara's answer to Abaye's proof is very strong, because it is very probable that the Mishnah refers to when there is a large fire on the Mizbe'ach which burns a k'Zayis quickly. He therefore states that Abaye's proof was the same proof he gave to Rav Ashi. The question of "v'Ha Haktarah...," and the answer that the Mishnah refers to a large fire on the Mizbe'ach, was not in the text of the Rambam. The Sefas Emes implies that the Rambam's text is indeed the correct text of the Gemara. (See TOSFOS YOM TOV 3:3 for a different explanation of the Rambam's source.)
(b) The PANIM ME'IROS explains that Rava's question is a continuation of the previous question. Rava asks that if having a thought that two people will eat a total of a k'Zayis does not create Pigul, then what is the Halachah when one has a thought of eating a k'Zayis in more than Kedei Achilas Peras? (The Panim Me'iros admits that this explanation seems to be refuted by TOSFOS here who apparently learns that these are two independent questions.)
(c) The KEHILOS YAKOV (23:2) answers that there are two ways in which one can eat a k'Zayis in more time than Kedei Achilas Peras. One way is when the person eats a half of a k'Zayis in a normal amount of time, pauses for a while, and then eats the second half as he ate the first. Having a thought to eat a Korban Chutz l'Zemano in this manner may cause the Korban to become Pasul, just as a thought that two people will eat a k'Zayis renders the Korban Pasul. Rava's question, on the other hand, is of a different nature. He is asking about a person who has a thought to eat one morsel at a time, but continually, at a leisurely pace which would take longer than Kedei Achilas Peras. This is not a normal way to eat. Rava's question is whether one who thinks to eat "she'Lo k'Derech Achilah" (in an abnormal manner) also creates Pigul. The law in this case cannot be inferred from the law regarding the normal eating of two people. Rava's question is whether the eating must be like the normal eating of a person (and thus such a thought would not invalidate the Korban), or whether it is comparable to the eating of the Mizbe'ach (which does not exclude this type of eating, and thus the Korban would become Pasul). (See also TZON KODASHIM and YAD BINYAMIN.) However, the Kehilos Yakov himself writes in a footnote that this explanation seems at odds with RASHI's understanding of the Gemara (DH Hachi Garsinan le'Echol), since Rashi says that the question involves eating half a k'Zayis and then eating the other half later. (Y. MONTROSE)