Question: Why don't we say that "when he fixes the Neros" is when he fixes five Neros, and afterwards he burns, i.e. the Ketores interrupts [in the middle of the Neros]!

Answer #1: We expound below (33b) "ba'Boker ba'Boker b'Heitivo" to divide it into two mornings. I.e. the five Neros are by themselves, and later two Neros;

If so, "b'Heitivo [Es] ha'Neros" discusses also the two Neros! (We cannot say that it discusses only five Neros.)

Answer #2: The answer we gave is better, for it brings a proof to his words, like it says "if you will not say so..."

Question: Why do we ask from the third Perek? We can ask from the same Mishnah in the second Perek [cited above on 14b]!

(Mishnah): [The lottery determines] who slaughters, who does Zerikah, and afterwards, who is Medashen the inner Mizbe'ach and the Menorah;

Aba Sha'ul holds below (33a), in Abaye's order of the Ma'arachah according to Aba Sha'ul, that Dishun of the inner Mizbe'ach precedes Hatavas Chamesh Neros, and Hatavas Chamesh Neros precedes Dam ha'Tamid!

Answer: Perhaps Rav Papa argues with Abaye, and holds that even Aba Sha'ul holds that Dam ha'Tamid precedes Dishun of the inner Mizbe'ach.

Implied question: Since our Mishnah did not teach the order, if so above (14b) there was no need to answer the contradiction between our Mishnah and the Mishnah in Tamid!

Answer: Really, what was taught in the Mishnah is in order;

[Abaye] means that [the Mishnah in the first Perek] did not teach Hatavah of five Neros because the Kohen Gadol did not do it.

Question: What was his mistake? Below (53b), a Mishnah explicitly says so! He did not intend [to sprinkle] above or below, rather, k'Matzlif!

Answer: He comes to answer that k'Matzlif is k'Menagdana. Everything was in one place;

This is like the Aruch explains k'Menagdana, that he lifts his hand, and does not lash until it descends.

Explanation: If so (above and below is relative to the middle of the Mizbe'ach), we find blood half below and half above! First he put on the corners [above], and afterwards on half the Mizbe'ach!

Rashi did not explain like this. (Rather, since he tries to sprinkle in the middle seven times, surely some will be above, and some will be below.)

R. Chananel's opinion: There were two Batei ha'Mokad to take from them fire for needs of the Mizbe'ach. It is a Mitzvah to bring human fire;

There were two of them, so if one of them would extinguish, they can bring from the other.

Implied question: Why were two needed? There was a Ma'arachah (woodpile) on the Mizbe'ach to keep an eternal fire going (45a)!

Answer: Perhaps all three were needed to keep the fire going, so if both of the Batei ha'Mokad would extinguish, they can bring from the Ma'arachah made for this purpose.

Support: Shabbos (20a) says that we make the bonfire catch in Beis ha'Mokad. We expound "in all your dwellings" you may not burn [on Shabbos], but you may burn in the bonfire in Beis ha'Mokad.

This connotes that since it is a need of the Mizbe'ach, one may burn on Shabbos.

Rashi's opinion: Since Kohanim walk barefoot [on the cold floor], for nothing may separate between their feet and the floor (Zevachim 24a), there were two Batei ha'Mokad;

And there was fire of the Ma'arachah was to keep the fire going.

Implied question: According to Rashi, why did they permit burning the bonfire of Beis ha'Mokad? It was not needed for the Mizbe'ach!

Answer: Since it was in the Azarah, "in all your dwellings" does not apply to it. (The Torah did not forbid burning there.)

Rashi's opinion: Here, and in 28a, the appointee told them to see if the time for Shechitah arrived. Rashi explained that this was the Segan (the Kohen ready to substitute for the Kohen Gadol, if needed).

Rejection: The Yerushalmi lists five functions of the Segan:

He says [in the lottery] "Kohen Gadol, raise you right hand!"

[When the Kohen Gadol is consoled after a relative died,] the Segan is at his right, and the head of the Beis Av is at his left (Sanhedrin 19a);

The Segan waves flags [so the Leviyim will know when to play and sing] (Tamid 33b);

[When the Kohen Gadol offers limbs of the Tamid,] the Segan is at his right, and brings him up [from the middle of the ramp to the top of the Mizbe'ach] (ibid.);

One cannot be appointed Kohen Gadol until he is first made Segan.

It does not list this (saying to check if it is time for Shechitah) among his functions! Rather, the appointee was not [necessarily] the Segan.

Explanation: This is like a Chatas. When he (a Kohen offering a Chatas) ascends the ramp, he comes first to the southeast corner.

Implied question: Why didn't we answer that since an Olah is slaughtered in the north, and the blood is collected [in a Kli] in the north, we put the blood first on the northeast corner? It is closer than the southeast corner!

Answer #1: Just the contrary! Since we always turn to the right, when he is in the north facing the Mizbe'ach, and surrounds going to the right, he comes first to the southeast corner!

Note: Tana'im (36a) argue about what is considered "Tzafon" which is Kosher for Shechitas Olah. Tosfos assumes that the Tana does not permit all of Tzafon (Malei ha'Ro'im), i.e. even east of the Mizbe'ach. Rather, he permits only directly north of the Mizbe'ach. Therefore, if he faces the Mizbe'ach and circles to the right, he encounters [first the northwest and then southwest corners, and then] the southeast corner "first", i.e. before the northeast corner. (Alternatively, if he permits also west of the Mizbe'ach on the north half, like R. Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon (36a), he encounters the southwest, southeast and northeast corners in this order.) Therefore, the Gemara could not answer that this is why he put first on the northeast corner, and not on the southeast corner. Indeed, after answering that we require a Yesod, the Gemara asks that we should put first on the southwest corner! The Gemara answered that he must turn right. Tosfos says that [now we hold that] the Tana permits all of Tzafon, even east of the Mizbe'ach (like Rebbi, 36a), and he slaughters there. A difficulty is that according to Tosfos, the Gemara did not mention a retraction about what is considered Tzafon, and the Gemara's answer [that he must turn to the right] was already known. (Alternatively, one could answer that we always held like Rebbi, but initially assumed that Shechitah was in the rings to the north of the Mizbe'ach (like it says below 62b and Tamid 31b), and in the answer we retract. However, it is still difficult why the Gemara did not mention the assumption from which it retracts.)

Answer #2: The Gemara answered the truth, that the southeast corner did not have a Yesod.

Explanation: [The Gemara asked] since we must offer it [partially] like a Chatas, even though we cannot put blood on the southeast corner, for it has no Yesod, we should put first on the southwest corner;

This corner is next to the ramp, which is in the south, on which the Kohen ascended to put the blood of a Chatas. It is closer than the northeast corner!

The Gemara answered that whenever we turn [we turn to the right. Therefore, the southwest corner is last for Chatas!]

Implied question: When one slaughters [Olah] north of the Mizbe'ach [and does not ascend the ramp], if he circles to the right, he encounters the southwest corner [second], before the northeast corner [which is last]!

Answer: R. Shimon Ish ha'Mitzpah (our Tana) holds like the opinion that the entire [north] half of the Azarah, up to the opening [of the Azarah in the east] is considered Tzafon;

He would slaughter past (east of) the Mizbe'ach, opposite the opening. When he circles to the right, he encounters first the northeast corner. Note: It is not clear to me what forced Tosfos to say so. We say (62b) that the Tamid was slaughtered in rings north of the Mizbe'ach, and no Tana explicitly argues! The previous Tosfos explained that even though it is slaughtered in the north, since it is like Chatas, we begin from the south, just like a Chatas!

It is closer to the southeast corner, which is the first corner for blood of a Chatas, than [the other corner on which we put blood of an Olah, i.e.] the southwest corner. (Maharsha - it is closer, i.e. Dam Chatas is put on it right after the southeast corner, and the southwest corner is last.) Note: The above reason (1) seemed sufficient. Tosfos did not call this another reason! It seems that Tosfos adds this to explain why we slaughter east of the Mizbe'ach, i.e. in order that the first corner we encounter [northeast] will be a corner that receives Dam Chatas earlier.