SANHEDRIN 17 (3 Teves 5785) - Dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Leib ben Meier ha'Kohen Ehrmann, on his Yahrzeit. Sponsored by his nephew, Ze'ev Rosenbaum.
1)

THE TWO LOTTERIES

ת״ר וישארו שני אנשים במחנה יש אומרים בקלפי נשתיירו שבשעה שאמר לו הקב״ה למשה אספה לי שבעים איש מזקני ישראל אמר משה כיצד אעשה אברור ששה מכל שבט ושבט נמצאו שנים יתירים אברור חמשה חמשה מכל שבט ושבט נמצאו עשרה חסרים אברור ששה משבט זה וחמשה משבט זה הריני מטיל קנאה בין השבטים מה עשה בירר ששה ששה והביא שבעים ושנים פיתקין על שבעים כתב זקן ושנים הניח חלק בללן ונתנן בקלפי אמר להם בואו וטלו פיתקיכם כל מי שעלה בידו זקן אמר כבר קידשך שמים מי שעלה בידו חלק אמר המקום לא חפץ בך אני מה אעשה לך כיוצא בדבר אתה אומר ולקחת חמשת חמשת שקלים לגולגולת אמר משה כיצד אעשה להן לישראל אם אומר לו תן לי פדיונך וצא יאמר לי כבר פדאני בן לוי מה עשה הביא עשרים ושנים אלפים פיתקין וכתב עליהן בן לוי ועל שלשה ושבעים ומאתים כתב עליהן חמשה שקלים בללן ונתנן בקלפי אמר להן טלו פיתקיכם מי שעלה בידו בן לוי אמר לו כבר פדאך בן לוי מי שעלה בידו חמשת שקלים אמר לו תן פדיונך וצא
Translation: The Rabbis taught in a Baraisa: 'And two men remained in the camp.' (Bamidbar 11:26). Some say: They (the names of Eldad and Meidad) remained in the box. Because when the Holy One, blessed is He, said to Moshe, Gather for Me seventy of the elders of Israel, (Bamidbar 11:16) Moshe said to himself: How will I do it? If I choose 6 from of each and every tribe, then two will be extra. If I will choose 5 from each and every tribe, then 10 will be missing. If I will choose 6 from this tribe and 5 from that tribe, I will cause jealousy among the tribes. What did he do? He chose 6 men from each tribe, and brought 72 lots, on 70 of them he wrote elder, and left two blank. He mixed them all up and put them into a box. He said to them: Come and draw your lots. To each one who a lot with the word 'Elder' came up into his hand, he said, Heaven has already consecrated you. To whoever drew a blank, he said, The Omnipresent does not want you, what can I do for you? Similarly you say: 'You should take five shekels for each head.' (Bamidbar 3:47) Moshe said to himself, How will I act toward Israel? If I say to someone: 'Give me your redemption and go,' he will say to me: 'A Levi has already redeemed me.' What did he do? He brought 22,000 lots, and wrote on each one, 'Levi,' and on another 273 slips he wrote, '5 shekels.' He mixed them up and put them into a box. He said to them: Draw your lots. To each one who a lot with the word Levi came up into his hand, he said: A Levite has already redeemed you. To each one who a slip bearing the word '5 shekels' came up into his hand, he said to him, Pay your redemption and go.
(a)

Moshe said that six Zekeinim will be chosen from 10 tribes and five Zekeinim from 2 tribes. Why were the Zekeinim not chosen from 13 tribes, since Efraim and Menashe are usually counted separately?

1.

Iyun Yaakov: Efraim and Menashe are only considered to be separate for inheritance, but not for other things.

2.

Tosfos Chachmei Anglia: Efraim and Menashe were counted separately, but Levi was not included, since they were involved in the service of the Mishkan and with singing the Shir there.

3.

Sanhedri Ketana: Levi were not included because the Pasuk states (Bamidbar 11:16), "...Gather for Me seventy of the elders of Israel whom you know to be the people's elders and officers, and you shall take them to the Tent of Meeting, and they shall stand there with you". The Zekeinim that were chosen had been the Jewish overseers in Mitzrayim and had taken the beatings that should have been give to the slaves under them. Since the tribe of Levi were not part of the servitude and did not serve as overseers, they could not become the Zekeinim.

2)

ELDAD AND MEIDAD'S HUMILITY AND THE THREE PROPHECIES

רבי שמעון אומר במחנה נשתיירו בשעה שאמר לו הקב״ה למשה אספה לי שבעים איש אמרו אלדד ומידד אין אנו ראויין לאותה גדולה אמר הקב״ה הואיל ומיעטתם עצמכם הריני מוסיף גדולה על גדולתכם ומה גדולה הוסיף להם שהנביאים כולן נתנבאו ופסקו והם נתנבאו ולא פסקו ומה נבואה נתנבאו אמרו משה מת יהושע מכניס את ישראל לארץ אבא חנין אומר משום רבי אליעזר על עסקי שליו הן מתנבאים עלי שליו עלי שליו רב נחמן אמר על עסקי גוג ומגוג היו מתנבאין שנאמר כה אמר ה׳ אלהים האתה הוא אשר דברתי בימים קדמונים ביד עבדי נביאי ישראל הנבאים בימים ההם שנים להביא אותך עליהם וגו׳ אל תיקרי שנים אלא שנים ואיזו הן שנים נביאים שנתנבאו בפרק אחד נבואה אחת הוי אומר אלדד ומידד
Translation: R. Shimon says: Eldad and Meidad themselves remained in the Camp. When the Holy One, blessed is He, said to Moshe, Gather for Me seventy men, Eldad and Meidad said, We are not worthy of that greatness. The Holy One, blessed is He, said: Because you have humbled yourselves, I will add more greatness onto your greatness. And how did He add to their greatness? In that all the prophets prophesied and stopped, but they (Eldad and Meidad) prophesied but did not stop. And what did they prophesy? They said: Moshe will die and Yehoshua will bring the Jewish people into the Land. Abba Chanin said in the name of R. Eliezer: They prophesied concerning the matter of the quail (the birds that the people were miraculously fed in the wilderness; see Shemos 16:11-13; Bamidbar 11:31), that they said Arise, quail; arise, quail. Rav Nachman said: They prophesied concerning the matter of Gog and Magog, (See Yechezkel 38:2; 39:6.) as it is said: 'So says Hash-m God: Are you he of whom I spoke in ancient days, through My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied in those days, Shanim (years) ago that I would bring you against them...?' (Yechezkel 38:17) Do not read 'Shanim' (years) rather, 'Shenayim' (two). And who are the two prophets who prophesied the same prophesy at the same period? Say they are Eldad and Meidad.
(a)

What is the connection between the three prophecies (Moshe will die, the quails and Gog u'Magog)?

1.

Maharsha citing Tosfos Yeshanim: All three are expounded from the word 'Bamachaneh' - 'in the camp' (Bamidbar 11:26). The first opinion says that it alludes to Yehoshua, who will lead Bnei Yisrael 'in the camp'. The second opinion says that it alludes to the quails, as the Pasuk states (Bamidbar 11:31), "and spread them over the camp". The third opinion says that it alludes to Gog u'Magog, as the 'great camp' of Gog u'Magog will come.

2.

Ramas Shmuel: All three are related to death - the death of Moshe, the death that came to those that ate the quails; and the death in the war of Gog u'Magog.

(b)

How did the Chachamim know that they prophesied specifically about these three things?

1.

Ein Eliyahu: The Midrash (Parshas Yisro) tells us that all of the prophecies given by the prophets will be 'received' from Moshe Rabbeinu, who received them from Hash-m. However, Eldad and Meidad received their prophecy directly from Hash-m. This is indicated in the Pasuk there when Moshe said to Yehoshua (Bamidbar 11:29), "...If only all of Hash-m's people were prophets, that Hash-m will bestow His spirit upon them.' Thus, each of the three opinions were giving a prophecy that would not have been given through Moshe. The first opinion holds that the prophecy of 'Moshe will die and Yehoshua will bring in' was certainly not given through Moshe. The second opinion, that they prophesied about the quails, would not have been through Moshe, as Moshe did not want that the negative effect of meat should come through him. Rav Nachman's opinion, that they prophesied about Gog u'Magog, also could not have been through Moshe, as Moshe thought that he would bring them into Eretz Yisrael. There would then be the true and permanent correction ('Tikkun') and no need for the war of Gog u'Magog.

(c)

The Pasuk concerning Eldad and Meidad states that they were prophesying 'במחנה' - 'in the camp' (Bamidbar 11:26). What can be expounded from that word?

1.

Chanukas haTorah: One could explain Derech Remez - Why did the Pasuk say that Paroh's daughter gave Moshe his name is, 'כי מן המים משיתיהו'? It could have said 'כי ממים משיתיהו' - 'for I drew him out of the water'. Why were the extra letters נ' and ה' added? The answer is that the word ממים would have been an acronym for 'משה מת ויהושע מכניס'. The letters נ' and ה' were therefore added. But the Pasuk states about Eldad and Meidad that they were prophesying 'במחנה'. This can be understood as במח-נה - that they wanted to 'מח' - 'erase' the נ and ה, so that the word should become ממים which is the acronym for 'משה מת ויהושע מכניס'.

(d)

According to Abba Chanin, why did they say the phrase 'Arise quail' twice?

1.

Ramas Shmuel: The Gemara in Yoma 75b expounds the word שליו to allude both to 'Shalav', meaning tranquility and 'Slav', meaning a thorn. The righteous will eat from it and have tranquillity. The evil will eat from it and it will be for them like thorns. The repetition of the phrase 'Arise quail' refer to these two types of people.

3)

ELDAD AND MEIDAD PROPHESIED AND DID NOT STOP

אמר מר כל הנביאים כולן נתנבאו ופסקו והן נתנבאו ולא פסקו מנא לן דפסקו אילימא מדכתיב ויתנבאו ולא יספו אלא מעתה קול גדול ולא יסף ה״נ דלא אוסיף הוא אלא דלא פסק הוא אלא הכא כתיב ויתנבאו התם כתיב מתנבאים עדיין מתנבאים והולכים בשלמא למ״ד משה מת היינו דכתיב אדוני משה כלאם אלא למ״ד הנך תרתי מאי אדני משה כלאם דלאו אורח ארעא דהוה ליה כתלמיד המורה הלכה לפני רבו בשלמא למ״ד הנך תרתי היינו דכתיב מי יתן אלא למ״ד משה מת מינח הוה ניחא ליה לא סיימוה קמיה מאי כלאם א״ל הטל עליהן צרכי ציבור והן כלין מאיליהן
Translation: The Master said: All the other prophets prophesied and stopped, but they prophesied and did not stop. From where do we infer that the others stopped? If you say, as it is written: 'They prophesied and they did not Yasafu (continue).' If so, what about the Pasuk: 'A great sound, that did not Yasaf (stop)'? (Devarim 5:19) There too, it means that it did not continue! (For sure, this cannot be said of the Shechinah!) Rather, that must be interpreted as it did not stop. But here (speaking about the elders), it is written: 'And they prophesied,' (Bamidbar 11:25) and there (about Eldad and Meidad) it is written: ' They were prophesying', (Bamidbar 11:27) meaning, they were still continuing to prophesy. It is all well according to the one who said that they prophesied Moshe will die, that is what is written: 'My master Moshe, destroy them,' (Bamidbar 11:27), but according to the one who said those two (that they prophesied concerning the quails, or about Gog and Magog), why did he say, 'My master Moshe, destroy them'? (Bamidbar 11:29) Because it was improper, as it is like a student who decides the law in the presence of his rabbi. It is all well, according to the one who said those two, that is why it is written: 'If only...', (Bamidbar 11:29) but according to the one who said that they prophesied Moshe will die, was he so satisfied (with their prophesy)? Yehoshua did not repeat their prophesy to him. What is 'destroy them'? Yehoshua said to him: Put community needs on them, and they will perish by themselves.
(a)

Why was Yehoshua upset?

1.

Rashi #1: He thought that, since they had withdrawn and not been appointed Zekeinim, they did not have the authority to prophesy.

2.

Ramban #2: He thought that they were prophesying from the 'Atzilus' of Moshe, together with the seventy elders, in which case they should have prophesied beside the Ohel Mo'ed, like the seventy did. Instead, they were prophesying independently in the camp.

3.

Seforno: Because he suspected them of deliberately withdrawing from the lottery in order to show that they could prophesy independently, without 'Atzilus' from Moshe.

4.

Da'as Zekenim, Hadar Zekenim and Rosh: Hash-m said that there would be only seventy Nevi'im. Yehoshua thought that they were not among them, in which case, they must be false prophets.

5.

Moshav Zekenim: Although a Navi who withholds his prophecy is Chayav Misah bi'Yedei Shamayim (Sanhedrin 89a), that is only if Hash-m instructs him to publicize it. Otherwise, it is understood that since he has not been told to publicize it, it is improper to do so.

6.

Maharsha: Yehoshua thought that they were presenting themselves as prophets on the level of Moshe, as a result of haughtiness. He recommended that they be given community needs and be among the Elders, so that all will see that they are not true prophets.

4)

ATTRIBUTES NEEDED TO BE APPOINTED TO THE SANHEDRIN

א״ר יוחנן אין מושיבין בסנהדרי אלא בעלי קומה ובעלי חכמה ובעלי מראה ובעלי זקנה ובעלי כשפים ויודעים בע׳ לשון שלא תהא סנהדרי שומעת מפי המתורגמן
Translation: R. Yochanan said: We do not appoint to the Sanhedrin, except men of stature, and men of wisdom, and men of appearance, and men of old age, and men who know sorcery (to be able to discern if someone did witchcraft (Rashi)), and who know all of the 70 languages, so that the Beis Din should not need an interpreter.
(a)

One of the attributes is 'men of old age'. But the Gemara further on (36b) states that one does not appoint a Dayan who is in his old age?

1.

R' Yona/ Meiri: That Gemara refers to one who is particularly old. Here, R. Yochanan is requiring 'men of old age', meaning not young men. Just as a very elderly person has forgotten the pain of bringing up children, so too a young man has not yet experienced it.

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5)

ONLY ONE WHO CAN PURIFY A SHERETZ

אמר רב יהודה אמר רב אין מושיבין בסנהדרין אלא מי שיודע לטהר את השרץ מה״ת אמר רב אני אדון ואטהרנו ומה נחש שממית ומרבה טומאה טהור שרץ שאינו ממית ומרבה טומאה אינו דין שיהא טהור ולא היא מידי דהוה אקוץ בעלמא
Translation: Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: We do not appoint to the Sanhedrin, except those who know how to declare pure a Sheretz (creeping thing prohibited by the Torah) from Torah law. Rav said: I can argue to declare it pure! If a snake, which kills, and spreads Tumah, is Tahor, a Sheretz, which does not kill and spread Tumah, isn't it logical that it is Tahor? But it's not so, it's like an ordinary thorn. (Even though a thorn prick can also cause death and spread Tumah, it is Tahor.)
(a)

What is the meaning and significance of being able to purify a Sheretz from Torah law?

1.

Tosfos - R' Tam: It does not mean that he can permit eating a Sheretz. (That would be ridiculous, as it is false.) It is referring to him purifying it from Tumas Neveilah, that a K'zayis that is carried by a person does not make him Tamei. This Halacha is indeed true and he is demonstrating his mastery in learning by proving it.

2.

Maharsha: He is demonstrating his ability to defend and find merit for one who is liable. (Purifying a Sheretz is also a form of finding merit.) Ohr Yaakov explains that this is of even greater significance in the following case. The Halacha is that if, for example, in a murder case, all of the Dayanim rule that the accused is guilty, we do not put him to death (as Rav Kahana several lines earlier on 17a). But if there is a Dayan who is a great expert and can find merit for the offender, it will become a regular case of following the majority and we will be able to punish the offender.

3.

Yaaros Dvash (9th Adar Drush 8): It is not a ridiculous way of learning (as Tosfos said). It is a true law at the right time. There are laws that currently are prohibited, but will become permitted in the future.

6)

THE REQUIRED POPULATION TO HAVE A SANHEDRIN

וכמה יהא בעיר ויהא ראויה לסנהדרין מאה ועשרים וכו׳׃ מאה ועשרים מאי עבידתייהו עשרים ושלשה כנגד סנהדרי קטנה ושלש שורות של עשרים ושלשה הרי תשעים ותרתי ועשרה בטלנין של בית הכנסת הרי מאה ותרי ושני סופרים ושני חזנין ושני בעלי דינין ושני עדים ושני זוממין ושני זוממי זוממין הרי מאה וארביסר ותניא כל עיר שאין בה עשרה דברים הללו אין תלמיד חכם רשאי לדור בתוכה בית דין מכין ועונשין וקופה של צדקה נגבית בשנים ומתחלקת בשלשה ובית הכנסת ובית המרחץ וביהכ״ס רופא ואומן ולבלר (וטבח) ומלמד תינוקות משום ר׳ עקיבא אמרו אף מיני פירא מפני שמיני פירא מאירין את העינים
Translation: (The Gemara continues with the next piece of the Mishnah:) How many people have to be in a city for it to qualify for a Sanhedrin? 120... What is the reason for 120? 23 corresponding to a small Sanhedrin, and three rows of 23, (as the Gemara teaches later in Daf 37a) that is 92. Add the ten 'unoccupied' men of the synagogue, (Ten men who were appointed in each community, dedicated to ensuring a Minyan and performing communal duties in the Shul. See Megillah 3b.) that is 102. And two scribes (to take down notes for the prosecution and defense; see Daf 37a), and two officers (who summoned the litigants and carried out the court sentences), and two litigants, and two witnesses, and two Zomemim, and two to prove the Zomemim as Zomemim themselves, that is 114. As it is taught in a Baraisa: Any city that does not contain the following 10 things, no Torah scholar is allowed to live there: A Beis Din that administers lashes and other penalties, and a charity fund which is collected by two and distributed by three, (See Bava Basra 8b.) and a Shul, and a public bath, and a public toilet, a doctor (who can also circumcise), and a bloodletter, and a scribe, (and a butcher) and a teacher of children. They said in the name of R. Akiva: The city must also have a variety of produce, because a variety of produce enlightens the eyes.
(a)

How does the second Beraisa about the Torah scholar add a further six people?

1.

Rashi: The charity fund, which is collected by two and distributed by three, adds a further five people. Then there is the doctor, the bloodletter, the scribe and the teacher who are all the same person.

2.

Yad Ramah: The charity fund's collection and distribution is done by three people. The other three are the butcher, the doctor and the scribe. (But bloodletter is the doctor and the teacher is one of the 'ten unoccupied men' who sit in the Shul.)

(b)

Why is 'a butcher' removed from the text according to some commentators?

1.

Ein Eliyahu: It is not a basic necessity to have a butcher, since one could bring in meat from outside of the city. Furthermore, it is not appropriate to eat meat (as the Gemara in Bava Basra 60b teaches that after the destruction of the second Beis haMikdash, there were those who completely stopped eating meat as a display of mourning).