1)

(a)For the Din of 'Melo Tarvad Rekev' to apply, says the Beraisa, the Mes must be buried naked, either in a marble coffin or on a stone floor. Which equivalent cases does the Tana list, in which it is not subject to the Din of 'Melo Tarvad Rekev'?

(b)Why the difference?

(c)What if one collects four or five spoons-full of dust from a corpse that is buried with clothes, and we know for sure that there at least one spoonful of dust is from the corpse?

1)

(a)For the Din of 'Melo Tarvad Rekev' to apply, says the Beraisa, the Mes must be buried naked, either in a marble coffin or on a stone floor, but not if it is buried - with clothes, either in a wooden coffin or on a floor of bricks ...

(b)... since we can then assume that some of the dust is from the clothes, the wood or the bricks (whereas marble and stone do not disintegrate into dust).

(c)Even if one collects four or five spoons-full of dust from a corpse that was buried with clothes, and we know for sure that there is at least one spoonful of dust from the corpse) - the Din of 'Melo Tarvad Rekev' will not apply.

2)

(a)According to Ula, which three components must the dust comprise before it has a Din of 'Rekev'?

(b)Rava queries this from a Beraisa 'Rekev ha'Ba Min ha'Basar Tahor'. What does this imply?

(c)How will Ula interpret the Beraisa?

(d)Why can the Tana not simply mean to say that it is Tahor until it also comprises bones and veins?

(e)Seeing as it is impossible for there to be flesh on the bones without veins, why did Ula need to mention veins?

2)

(a)According to Ula, the dust does not have a Din of 'Rekev' - unless it comprises flesh, veins and bones (as we learned on the previous Daf).

(b)Rava queries this from a Beraisa 'Rekev ha'Ba min ha'Basar Tahor', implying that - if it comes from bones alone, it is 'Rekev'.

(c)Ula however, will interpret it to mean - that dust from flesh alone is Tahor, unless it incorporates bones (which in turn, is only possible if there are veins to hold them together).

(d)The Tana cannot mean to say that it is Tahor until it also comprises bones and veins - because then, he ought to have said 'min ha'Basar v'Etzem Tahor'.

(e)Despite the fact that it is impossible for there to be flesh on the bones without veins, Ula mention veins - to preclude the Rekev from a stillborn baby whose veins have not yet fully developed.

3)

(a)What does Rav Shmuel bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about dust that comes from two corpses?

(b)What does 'Galgalin' (or 'Gangilan') mean in this context?

(c)What is the source of this ruling?

3)

(a)Rav Shmuel bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan says that dust that comes from two corpses - becomes 'Galgalin' (or 'Gangilan') to another (preventing the Din of 'Rekev' from taking effect in either one).

(b)'Galgalin' (or 'Gangilan' [in this context]) means - earth from somewhere else that is mixed with the dust of the Mes.

(c)The source of this ruling is - Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai (that only the dust from one corpse is subject to this Din, but not the dust from two).

4)

(a)How does Rava explain the Beraisa cited by Rebbi Nasan b'Rebbi Oshaya 'Rekev ha'Ba mi'Shtei Mesim, Tamei', to reconcile Rebbi Yochanan with it?

(b)Why does Rava find it necessary to say that the dust had been completely eaten by moths?

4)

(a)To reconcile Rebbi Yochanan with the Beraisa cited by Rebbi Nasan b'Rebbi Oshaya 'Rekev ha'Ba mi'Shnei Mesim, Tamei' - Rava establishes it when each corpse was buried separately (even though only half a 'Melo Tarvad remains from each one), whereas Rebbi Yochanan is speaking when they were buried together.

(b)Rava finds it necessary to say that the dust had been completely eaten by moths - to teach us that even if part of the remaining dust was from the heel, it nevertheless has the Din of Rekev (this will be explained shortly).

5)

(a)What does Rabah bar bar Chanah say about the hair of a Mes that is buried together with it?

(b)The Mishnah in Ohalos states that every part of a Mes is Metamei except for three. Which three?

(c)This speaks even mid'Rabanan. Other parts of a Mes are Metamei min ha'Torah. Which part of a Mes is a Safek whether it is Metamei min ha'Torah or mid'Rabanan?

(d)Under what circumstances are even the above three parts Metamei, too?

5)

(a)Rabah bar bar Chanah says that the shorn hair of a Mes that is buried together with it - is 'Galgalin' to the corpse, preventing the Din 'Rekev' from taking effect.

(b)The Mishnah in Ohalos states that every part of a Mes is Metamei except for three - his teeth, his hair and his nails.

(c)This speaks even mid'Rabanan. Other parts of a Mes are Metamei min ha'Torah. The part of a Mes which is a Safek (whether it is Metamei min ha'Torah or mid'Rabanan) is - his skin.

(d)However, even the three parts are Metamei - as long as they are still attached to the Mes.

6)

(a)Chizkiyah asks whether hair that was due to have been shaved is Metamei or whether whatever is due to be shaved is as if it was shaved (and it therefore makes Galgalin). Why can we not resolve Chizkiyah's She'eilah from Rebbi Yochanan, who said earlier that hair that has been shorn makes Galgalin, implying that if it has not been shorn, it does not?

(b)Rebbi Yirmiyahu asks whether the Din of Rekev applies to the heel or not. Why might it not? What makes the heel different than other parts of the body?

(c)How do we attempt to prove from Rebbi Nasan b'Rebbi Oshiya's Beraisa 'Rekev ha'Ba mi'Shtei Mesim, Tamei' (according to Rava's interpretation) that Rekev does indeed apply to a heel?

(d)How do we establish the She'eilah to refute the proof?

(e)What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

6)

(a)Chizkiyah asks whether hair that was due to have been shaved is Metamei or whether we say that whatever is due to be shaved is as if it was shaved. We cannot resolve Chizkiyah's She'eilah from Rebbi Yochanan, who said earlier that hair that has been shorn makes Galgalin - because the implication is (not, that if it has not been shorn, it does not, but) that if it has not been shorn, it is a Safek.

(b)Rebbi Yirmiyahu asks whether the Din of Rekev applies to the heel or not - because the heel has no life in it, with the result that it rots quicker than other parts of the body, giving rise to the possibility that it is not included in Rekev.

(c)We try to prove Rebbi Nasan b'Rebbi Oshiya's Beraisa 'Rekev ha'Ba mi'Shtei Mesim, Tamei' (according to Rava's interpretation, that they buried each one separately and that the bodies became eaten by moths until between them, only a Melo Tarvad of Rekev remained) that Rekev does apply to a heel - because if it did not, perhaps the 'Melo Tarvad that remained was from the heel, so why did the Tana say with certainty that Rekev applies?

(d)To refute the proof, we establish the She'eilah - when it was not the entire body which turned into Rekev (in which case the Rekev of the heel would combine with that of the rest of the body), but only one leg including the heel. There, it may have been the heel which caused the entire leg to rot quicker (in which case, it might make Galgalin).

(e)In any event, the She'eilah remains unresolved.

7)

(a)Rebbi Yirmiyahu asks whether a fetus makes Galgalin or not. What is the Sevara to say that it ...

1. ... does not?

2. ... does?

(b)Assuming that we take into account that the fetus is due to leave the mother's body, semen inside her body, which has not yet formed, might still be considered part of her. Why might it, on the other hand, make Galgalin?

(c)Why might excrement be considered part of the body, even assuming semen is not?

7)

(a)Rebbi Yirmeyahu asks whether a fetus makes Galgalin or not. The Sevara to say that it ...

1. ... does not - is based on the principle 'Ubar Yerech Imo'.

2. ... does - is because it is normally destined to leave the body, in which case it cannot be considered an intrinsic part of it.

(b)Assuming that we take into account that the fetus is due to leave the mother's body, semen inside her body, which has not yet formed, might still be considered part of her. On the other hand, it might make Galgalin - because it came from an external source (and cannot therefore be considered part of her body).

(c)Excrement might be considered part of the body, even assuming semen is not - because it comes from food without which, a person could not live (making it an intrinsic part of the body).

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8)

(a)Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika asks whether the skin makes Galgalin, and Rav Huna bar Mano'ach asks about the mucus and the phlegm. Assuming all of the above do make Galgalin, what would one have had to have done to the Mes (before he person's death) for Rekev to be applicable, so that it should not be prevented by the its ...

1. ... excrement, mucus and phlegm?

2. ... skin and hair?

(b)Why must the heating with hot water from the springs of Teveriyah have preceded the smearing of the ointment?

(c)How is it possible to reconcile Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika with Chizkiyah, who asked above whether hair that is due to be shaved makes Galgalin or not (implying that hair that is not due to be shaved does not make Galgalin)?

8)

(a)Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika asks whether the skin makes Galgalin, and Rav Huna bar Mano'ach asks about the mucus and the phlegm. Assuming all of the above do make Galgalin, for Rekev to be applicable, one would have had, so that it should not be prevented by his ...

1. ... excrement, mucus and phlegm - to have given him (still in his lifetime) three doses of water drawn from a fountain that flows between the two date-palms situated outside Masa Mechasya, [the sole way of clearing one's system completely]).

2. ... skin and hair - to have bathed the body in the hot springs of Teveriyah (to loosen the skin from the body), and to have smeared the body with an ointment that removes the hair.

(b)The heating with hot water from the springs of Teveriyah must have preceded the smearing of the ointment - in order to include the roots of the hair that grow between the flesh and the skin.

(c)It is possible to reconcile Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika with Chizkiyah, who asked above whether hair that is due to be shaved makes Galgalin or not (implying that hair that is not due to be shaved does not make Galgalin) - by establishing him like Rabah bar bar Chanah, according to whom hair that has been shaved definitely makes Galgalin, and hair that has not (and that is due to be shaved is a Safek), only he adds even hair that is not due to be shaved in the Safek

9)

(a)Why, according to Abaye, does Rekev not apply to a corpse that has been ground?

(b)We ask whether it will apply to a ground corpse that subsequently rotted. Seeing that, at the time of rotting, the corpse comprised flesh, bones and veins, why might Rekev not apply in such a case?

9)

(a)According to Abaye, Rekev does not apply to a corpse that has been ground - because the Halachah of Rekev was only said concerning rot, and not on a ground corpse.

(b)We ask whether Rekev will apply to a ground corpse that subsequently rotted. Despite the fact that, at the time of rotting, the corpse comprised flesh, bones and veins, Rekev might not apply in such a case - because it came from a body that had changed from its original state.

10)

(a)Ula quotes a Beraisa that the Din of Rekev does not apply to a corpse that is incomplete, and neither does the Din of Tefusah or that of Shechunas Kevaros. What is ...

1. ... 'Tefusah'?

2. ... 'Shechunas Kevaros'?

(b)Considering that, in the latter case, when all's said and done, the three corpses indicate more graves in the vicinity, what difference will the fact that one of the corpses is incomplete make?

(c)When one Tana in the Mishnah in Eduyos tries to learn from a k'Zayis of flesh that came from a Mes (and that is Metamei) that a k'Zayis of flesh that came from a live person should be Metamei too, his opponent cited the three cases of 'Rov', 'Rova' and 'Melo Tarvad' (which we already discussed earlier). What does the Tana mean by ...

1. ... 'Rov'?

2. ... 'Rova'?

(d)Why does he cite these three cases?

10)

(a)Ula quotes a Beraisa that the Din of Rekev does not apply to a corpse that is incomplete, and neither does the Din of ...

1. ... 'Tefusah' - (if someone comes across a corpse that is lying in a regular position, he is obligated to bury it together with all the soft earth upon which it is lying and three Tefachim of virgin soil).

2. ... 'Shechunas Kevaros' - (if one comes across three Mesim and there are between four and eight Amos between the first and the second and the second and the third, one must consider them as part of a burial-ground, which entails measuring a certain distance in all directions to ascertain whether there are more graves in that vicinity or not (as will be explained later).

(b)Despite the fact that, in the latter case, when all's said and done, the three corpses indicate more graves in the vicinity - we will attribute the Din that one of the corpses being incomplete negates the Din of Shechunas Kevaros to the fact that it is Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai (which is the source of the basic Halachah).

(c)When one Tana in the Mishnah in Eduyos tries to learn from a k'Zayis of flesh that came from a Mes (and that is Metamei) that a k'Zayis of flesh that came from a live person should be Metamei too, his opponent cited the three cases of 'Rov', 'Rova' and 'Melo Tarvad' (which we already discussed earlier). By ...

1. ... 'Rov' - the Tana means 'Rov Binyan' (the majority of the volume of the corpse's bones) or 'Rov Minyan' (the majority of its bones).

2. ... 'Rova' - he means 'Rova Kav Atzamos' (the majority of a Kav [six Se'ah]).

(d)And he cites these three cases - to refute the first Tana's Limud from a Mes to a Chai.

11)

(a)How do we initially interpret the Beraisa's distinction between a Melo Tarvad Rekev from a live person and a Melo Tarvad Rekev from a dead one?

(b)How do we re-interpret it so as not to clash with Ula's Beraisa (that the Din of Rekev does not apply to a corpse that is incomplete)?

11)

(a)We initially interpret the Beraisa's distinction between a Melo Tarvad Rekev from a live person and a Melo Tarvad Rekev from a dead one - as being that a spoonful of Rekev from one limb of a live person is not Tamei, whereas the equivalent by a dead person is.

(b)However, in order not to clash with Ula's Beraisa (that the Din of Rekev does not apply to a corpse that is incomplete) we re-interpret it in that - whereas by a live person there is no case of Melo Tarvad Rekev that is Metamei, by a corpse there is.

12)

(a)What She'eilah does Rava ask about the limb of a live person that rotted before he died?

(b)How do we refute the proof from the previous Beraisa, which states 'Tomar b'Chai, she'Ein Lo ... Melo Tarvad' (implying that, should he die, the Din of Rekev will apply)?

12)

(a)Rava asks whether the limb of a live person that rotted before he died - should not have a Din of Rekev (even after his death), seeing as the Halachah was only said regarding the Rekev that came from a dead person, or whether the point is that he is now dead (and it makes no difference at which stage the Rekev developed).

(b)We refute the proof from the previous Beraisa, which states 'Tomar b'Chai, she'Ein Lo ... Melo Tarvad', by explaining that by a rotted limb of a Chai, there is no Din of Rekev at all (even after he dies, whereas by a Mes, there is), in the same way as we just explained to answer the previous Kashya.