1)

A VOW FOR THE MIZBE'ACH

(a)

Question: Nesachim are entirely for the Mizbe'ach!

(b)

Answer: They are poured through the Shitim. (The Mizbe'ach does not consume them.)

(c)

Question: Minchas Nesachim is entirely consumed by the Mizbe'ach!

(d)

Answer: Some Menachos are (mostly) eaten by Kohanim. Presumably the one who vowed intended for something that is always Kalil.

2)

A VOW TO BRING METAL

(a)

(Mishnah): If one said 'Alai Zahav', he must bring at least a gold Dinar.

(b)

Question: Perhaps he meant Naska (an ingot; Tosfos - it is a fixed amount less than a Dinar)!

(c)

Answer (R. Elazar): He said 'coins'.

(d)

Question: Perhaps he meant Perutos!

(e)

Answer (Rav Papa): People do not make gold Perutos.

(f)

(Mishnah): If one said 'Alai Kesef', he must bring at least a Dinar.

(g)

Question: Perhaps he meant Naska!

(h)

Answer (R. Elazar): He said 'coins'.

(i)

Question: Perhaps he meant Perutos!

(j)

Answer (Rav Sheshes): The Mishnah discusses a place where silver Perutos are not used.

(k)

(Mishnah): If one said 'Alai Nechoshes', he must bring copper worth a silver Ma'ah.

(l)

(Beraisa - R. Eliezer ben Yakov): He must bring at least a small fork of copper.

(m)

Question: What use is there for this in the Mikdash?

(n)

Answer (Abaye): It is used to cut off burnt ends of wicks and to clean the ashes out of the lamps of the Menorah.

(o)

Version #1 (Beraisa - Others): If one said 'Alai Barzel', he must bring iron (at least) enough for Kalyah Orev (to prevent ravens from resting on the Heichal; Rashi - these are spikes, or an iron plate with a sharp edge pointing up; Aruch - it is a scarecrow.)

(p)

Question: How big must this be?

(q)

Answer (Rav Yosef): It must be one Amah by one Amah.

(r)

Version #2: If one said 'Alai Barzel', he must bring one Amah by one Amah.

(s)

Question: What use is there for this in the Mikdash?

(t)

Answer (Rav Yosef): It is enough for Kalyah Orev.

3)

VOLUNTARY NESACHIM

(a)

(Mishnah): If one said 'Alai Yayin', he must bring three Lugim of wine;

(b)

If he said 'Alai Shemen', he must bring one Log of oil;

(c)

Rebbi says, he must bring three Lugim.

(d)

If he knows that he vowed to bring a certain amount but does not remember how much, he brings the largest amount that the Tzibur ever brings in one day.

(e)

(Gemara - Beraisa): "Ezrach" is extra, to permit a Nedavah of wine. Three Lugim must be brought. (We never find less than this.)

(f)

Question: What is the source to allow bringing more?

(g)

Answer: "Yihyeh" permits this.

(h)

Suggestion: Perhaps one may bring less!

(i)

Rejection: "Kachah" (is Me'akev).

(j)

(Mishnah): If he said 'Alai Shemen', he must bring one Log of oil; Rebbi says, three Lugim.

(k)

Question: What do they argue about?

(l)

Answer (Rabanan): Chachamim hold Dun Minah u'Minah (when a matter is learned from another matter, we learn everything from the source):

1.

We learn Nedavah of oil from Menachos. The smallest amount of oil in a Minchah is one Log;

2.

Rebbi holds, Dun Minah v'Uki b'Asra (we only learn one law from the source, other laws are according to the law of the matter being learned);

i.

We learn from Menachos that a Nedavah can be brought, but we learn the Shi'ur from Nesachim. The minimum we ever find is three Lugim (of wine).

(m)

Rejection (Rav Papa): Both of them hold Dun Minah u'Minah. If they learned from Menachos, Rebbi would agree that the Shi'ur is one Log.

(n)

Answer #2 (Rav Papa): Rebbi learns from "Ezrach" (i.e. Nesachim of wine). Three Lugim must be brought.

(o)

Rejection (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Noson): That is wrong!

1.

(Beraisa): "Korban" teaches that Nedavah of wine may be brought. The Shi'ur is three Lugim.

2.

Rav Huna: This is like Rebbi, who holds that the Shi'ur is three Lugim. This shows that he learns from "Korban"!

(p)

Admission (Rav Papa): Indeed, the Beraisa refutes me.

4)

UNSPECIFIED VOWS

(a)

(Mishnah): If one said 'Alai Olah', he must bring a lamb (or better);

(b)

R. Elazar ben Azaryah says, he brings a Tor or Ben Yonah (or better).

(c)

If he vowed to bring Bakar (cattle, for an Olah) but does not remember which, he brings a bull and calf;

(d)

If he vowed to bring a Behemah but does not remember which, he brings a bull and calf, ram and (adult) goat, kid (yearling goat) and lamb.

(e)

If he does not remember whether he specified an animal or bird, he brings all of these and a Tor or Ben Yonah.

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(f)

If he vowed to bring Todah or Shelamim, he must bring a lamb (or a bigger animal);

(g)

If he vowed to bring a specific kind of Bakar but does not remember which, he brings a male calf and a female calf, and a bull and cow;

(h)

If he vowed a specific animal but does not remember which, he brings a male and female of each of the following - cow and calf, (adult) sheep and goat, kid and lamb.

(i)

If he vowed to bring a bull, he must spend (at least) a Maneh (25 Sela'im) for it and its Nesachim;

(j)

If he vowed to bring a calf, ram or lamb, he must spend (respectively) at least five, two or one Sela('im) for it and its Nesachim;

(k)

If he vowed to bring a bull (or calf, ram or lamb) for 25 (or five or two or one) Sela('im), he must spend this amount for the animal alone, without its Nesachim;

(l)

If he vowed to bring a bull for a Maneh and he brought two bulls for a Maneh, he was not Yotzei;

1.

Even if each is worth almost a Maneh, he was not Yotzei.

(m)

If he vowed to bring a black animal and brought a white one (or vice-versa), or to bring a large animal and brought a small one, he was not Yotzei;

(n)

If he vowed to bring a small animal and brought a large one, he was Yotzei;

(o)

Rebbi says, he was not Yotzei.

(p)

(Gemara): The first Tana and R. Elazar ben Azaryah do not argue. R. Elazar gives the law in his locale (Rambam - there, people call Olas ha'Of (simply) Olah; Rashi - there, birds cost more than lambs), and the first Tana teaches for his locale. (Olah refers only to Behemos, or lambs cost more than birds.)

(q)

(Beraisa): If one vowed to bring an Olah for a Sela to the Mizbe'ach, he should bring a lamb, for no other animal can be offered for a Sela.

(r)

If he specified what he will bring for a Sela, but he does not remember what, he brings everything that can be offered for a Sela (also Soles, Levonah...)

5)

A LARGE ANIMAL IN PLACE OF A SMALL ONE

(a)

(Mishnah): If he vowed to bring a specific kind of Bakar but does not remember which, he brings a bull and a male calf.

(b)

Question: It should suffice to bring a bull, even if he vowed to bring a calf!

(c)

Answer: Our Mishnah is Rebbi, who says that if he vowed to bring a small animal and brought a large one, he was not Yotzei.

(d)

Question (Mishnah): If he vowed to bring a bull for a Maneh and he brought two bulls for a Maneh, he was not Yotzei;

1.

Even if each is worth almost a Maneh, he was not Yotzei.

2.

If he vowed to bring a black animal and brought a white one (or vice-versa), to bring a large animal and brought a small one, he was not Yotzei;

3.

If he vowed to bring a small animal and brought a large one, he was Yotzei;

4.

Rebbi says, he was not Yotzei.

5.

Summation of question: Will you say that the Reisha and Seifa are like Rebbi, and the middle is Rabanan?!

(e)

Answer: Indeed, the Reisha and Seifa are Rebbi, and the middle is Rabanan.

1.

The Mishnah teaches that (not all agree to the Reisha); Rebbi and Chachamim argue about this.

(f)

(Mishnah): There were six boxes for Nedavah (money to buy Kitz ha'Mizbe'ach, Olos Nedavah of the Tzibur for when the Mizbe'ach is idle).

(g)

(Mishnah) Question: Why were there six?

(h)

Answer #1 (Chizkiyah): They correspond to the six Batei Avos (Rashi - subdivisions of each Mishmar of Kohanim), so there will be Shalom between them. (The money is divided equally, so each Beis Av will offer the same amount; R. Gershom - each Beis Av offers whatever is given on its day.)

(i)

Answer #2 (R. Yochanan): Because many coins were given for Nedavah, there were six boxes, lest the coins rot.

(j)

Answer #3 (Ze'iri): There was one box for each kind of animal (that one may vow to bring for an Olah, i.e. males) - bull, calf, ram, lamb, goat and kid;

1.

This is like Rebbi, who says that if one brought a large animal in place of a small one, he was not Yotzei.

(k)

Answer #4 (Bar Pada): The boxes were for (redemption money of Korbanos sent to graze, e.g. if a replacement was offered in place of a lost Korban, e.g.) bulls and goats (of Chatas Tzibur), rams and lambs (of Ashamos), Mosaros (if one was Makdish money for a Korban and did not need all of it, the extra is Mosar) and Kalbonos (small additions to the half-Shekel that everyone must give to Hekdesh each year).

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