(Mishnah): If a Na'arah was seduced, the payments for her embarrassment and blemish and her fine go to her father, and [likewise the payment for] pain for one who was grabbed;

If she stood in Beis Din (the case was judged) before the father died, the payments belong to the father. If he died afterwards, his sons inherit them;

If she did not have time to stand in Beis Din before the father died, the payments belong to her.

(Gemara) Question: Who is our Tana, who taught [that the fine is for] a Na'arah? It is R. Meir. However, according to Rabanan, even a minor [has a fine].

"And the pain for one who was grabbed" refers to Anusah (one who was raped), and it is unlike R. Shimon;

R. Shimon exempts a rapist from [payment for] pain.

Question: [Our Mishnah teaches that the father receives payment] only for matters due to Bi'ah. If one wounded (a Ketanah or Na'arah), blinded her eye, or cut off her hand or broke her leg, whom does he pay - her father, or her?

Answer #1 (R. Yochanan): He gives to her father.

Answer #2 (Reish Lakish): He gives to her.

(R. Avin citing R. Heila): They argue about [the part of the payment for damage that is for her decreased earnings] until she becomes Bogeres;

Reish Lakish holds that the payment for damage is hers, [even the part for] until she becomes Bogeres;

R. Yochanan that [it is hers only for] from Bagrus and afterwards;

However, from Bagrus and afterwards, all agree that it is hers. (We explained this like SHA'AREI TORAS ERETZ YISRAEL.)

A Beraisa supports this one, and a Beraisa supports this one.

Support (for R. Yochanan - Beraisa #1): If one wounded another's daughter or son - [the payment] for the son he gives immediately. The payment for the daughter, he makes a Segulah (profitable investment)

(R. Yudan, the father of R. Yudah the father of R. Matanyah): There is a Beraisa, that the Reisha and Seifa support Reish Lakish;

(Beraisa #2): If one wounded one's daughter, the Nezek is hers, and he is exempt from Boshes and Pegam;

If others wounded her, the Nezek is hers, he makes a Segulah with it (ALEI TAMAR). The Boshes and Pegam is her father's. (SEFER NIR - Pegam is her decreased value for Kidushin, i.e. what men will pay to be Mekadesh her.)

Question: (Our Mishnah said that if she stood in Beis Din before the father died, the father collects. If he died before she stood in Beis Din, she collects.) Why do you say so?

Answer (Beraisa - R. Shimon ben Yochai) Question: [We expound] 'v'Nasan l'Na'arah' (he gives to her, for the Torah did not need to write 'ha'Na'arah'. It should have said v'Nasan l'Aviha! Rather, it says) "v'Nasan l'Avi ha'Na'arah." (I.e. sometimes he gives to his father.) How is this? (We explained this like PNEI MOSHE.)

Answer: If she stood in Din before her father died, we say that "v'Nasan l'Avi ha'Na'arah" applies. If her father died [before she stood in Din], we say that he gives to her herself.

If she stood in Din before Bagrus, we find "v'Nasan l'Avi ha'Na'arah". [If she stood in Din] after Bagrus, we find that he gives to her herself.

Question: What is the source for this? (Perhaps it goes to the sons, and not to her! We explained this like RIDVAZ.)

Answer (R. Avahu citing R. Yochanan): "V'Hisnachalten Osam li'Vneichem Achareichem Lareshes Achuzah" - they (Kena'ani slaves) are [an inheritance] to your sons, but your daughters are not to your sons. The verse discusses [rights to collect] the fine [of Ones].

(R. Chiyah - Beraisa): [The sons] do not receive fines of the daughter [for Ones], and not of Mefateh, and not of wounding.

Question: When does [Ones u'Mefateh] become liable?

Answer #1 (R. Yonah): It is from the beginning (the time of Bi'ah).

Answer #2 (R. Yosi): It is at the end (when she stood in Din).

Question (R. Yosi, against R. Yonah): According to you, that you say from the beginning, our Mishnah says that if she stood in Din before her father died, it is the father's. If the father died, it is of the brothers. (And if the father died before she stood in Din, she collects. If it belongs to the father from the time of Bi'ah, his sons should inherit it!)

Answer (R. Yonah): You reached [the need for the Drashah of] R. Shimon ben Yochai - 'v'Nasan l'Na'arah', "v'Nasan l'Avi ha'Na'arah" (it goes to her, or to her father).

Question (R. Yonah, against R. Yosi): According to you, that you say at the end, [this is unlike the coming] Mishnah! If she stood in Beis Din before she became a Bogeres, the payments belong to the father. [If she stood in Din] after she became a Bogeres, they are of her.

Does a Bogeres have a fine?! (Rather, we must say that he was obligated a fine from the time of Bi'ah, i.e. before Bagrus.)

Answer (R. Yosi): You reached [the need for the Drashah of] R. Chiyah's Beraisa. "Tachas Asher Inah" includes when she was a Na'arah, and she became a Bogeres.

This argument (of R. Yonah and R. Yosi) is like the following argument (about another Mishnah);

(Mishnah): If one stole (an ox or Seh) from his father, and sold or slaughtered it, and afterwards [his father] died, he pays four or five.

Question (R. Chagai, to R. Yosi): According to you, that you say that it depends on standing in Beis Din - it should teach that if one stole from his father, and sold or slaughtered in his father's lifetime, and he did not have time to stand in Din before the father died, he pays [only] Kefel! (The Mishnah teaches Kefel only when he slaughtered or sold after his father died!)

Answer (R. Yosi): I agree to you about four or five (since the heirs inherit the stolen animal itself, liability for four or five is from the time of Shechitah or sale). However, here, all agree that she is of herself (the sons do not inherit her). The argument [of R. Yonah and R. Yosi] is to whom to give (when the Bi'ah was in her father's lifetime, but she stood in Din only after he died).