KERISUS 21 - This Daf has been dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Rochel Rivkah bas Mattisyahu HaCohen, by her son-in-law, Ari Rosenstein of Ramat Beit Shemesh in honor of her Yahrzeit, on 11 Elul.

1)

(a)Others cite Rav Sheishes in connection with the Beraisa which discusses the Cheilev and the blood of a human being. What does the Tana learn from the Pasuk in Shemini (in connection with the non-Kasher animals) "ve'Zeh lachem ha'Tamei, regarding the Cheilev of a human-being?

(b)On what grounds would we otherwise have thought that ...

1. ... human Cheilev is forbidden?

2. ... human blood is forbidden, even after concluding that his Cheilev is permitted?

(c)So from where do we know that the latter is permitted as well?

2)

(a)What does Rebbi Zeira Amar Rav say, to qualify the ruling of the Mishnah in Chulin, permitting Bedi'eved the blood in a heart that one failed to tear open and remove?

(b)How do we reconcile Rav with the Beraisa cited earlier, which lists the blood in the heart together with the other limbs for which one transgresses a La'av, but not Kareis?

(c)How will we then explain why the Tana inserts Dam ha'Leiv (if it does not refer to foreign blood), seeing as he mentions Dam ha'Eivarim independently?

(d)How do we prove this? Which other case of Dam Eivarim does the Tana mention that does not contain any foreign blood?

(e)How does foreign blood get into the heart anyway?

3)

(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, as long as the blood of Hakazah (blood-letting) is still spurting, it is considered Dam ha'Nefesh. What is that the equivalent of? What does it come to preclude?

(b)What does Resh Lakish say?

(c)We cite a Beraisa which discusses Dam Hakazah, and which concludes 'Yatza Dam ha'Tamtzis Mipnei she'hu Shoseis (it oozes out)'. What do we think this incorporates? On whom does it pose a Kashya?

(d)What do we answer? What exactly is the Tana referring to, according to Resh Lakish?

4)

(a)How will Resh Lakish reconcile his opinion with another Beraisa, which specifically precludes 'the first blood and the last blood' from Dam ha'Nefesh?

(b)And we cite a Beraisa, where Rebbi defines Dam ha'Nefesh as 'as long as the blood is spurting out' (like Rebbi Yochanan). What do Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon say?

5)

(a)What does Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael Darshen from the Pasuk in Balak "ve'Dam Chalalim Yishteh"? Which blood is not considered a beverage (and is therefore not Machshir)?

(b)What did Rebbi Yirmiyah ask Rebbi Zeira about someone who receives the Dam Hakazah of an animal in two cups?

(c)Rebbi Zeira answered that it is a Machlokes between Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish. According to Resh Lakish he is Chayav two Chata'os. What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

6)

(a)In our Mishnah, we cited Rebbi Yehudah, who obligates someone who drinks Dam ha'Tamtzis to bring a Chatas. Based on the Pasuk in Vayikra "ki ha'Dam hu ba'Nefesh Yechaper", what does Rebbi Elazar comment on Rebbi Yehudah's ruling?

(b)Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak supports this with a Beraisa. What does the Tana learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "Kol Dam Lo Socheilu"?

(c)What would we otherwise have thought?

(d)How does this prove that Rebbi Yehudah holds like that?

7)

(a)Our Mishnah cites Rebbi Akiva, who requires an Asham Taluy for Safek Me'ilah. What do the Chachamim say?

(b)What does Rebbi Akiva concede with regard to the money that the Mo'el has to pay?

(c)Rebbi Tarfon considers it unnecessary to bring two Ashamos. What does he suggest one does?

(d)How is it possible to use the same ram for an Asham Me'ilos and an Asham Taluy?

8)

(a)What objection does Rebbi Akiva raise to Rebbi Tarfon's suggestion?

(b)And in which case does he agree with him?

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9)

(a)What does Rebbi Akiva learn from the 'Vav' of "ve'Im" (in the Pasuk in Vayikra [in connection with Asham Taluy], "ve'Im Nefesh Achas Secheta", which follows the Parshah of Asham Me'ilos)?

(b)How do we initially interpret the basis of his Machlokes with the Chachamim, who declare him Patur?

(c)Rav Papa concludes however, that on principle, the Chachamim agree that we learn Elyon mi'Tachton (an earlier Parshah from the one that follows it). What makes Rav Papa say that? Which Halachah would we not otherwise know, with regard to the Shechitah of a ben Bakar of Kodshim?

(d)The Chachamim's source, he says, is therefore the Gezeirah-Shavah "Mitzvos" "Mitzvos" from Chatas Cheilev. What do we learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah "Mitzvos" "Mitzvos"?

10)

(a)We learned in a Beraisa that, according to Rebbi, Me'ilah be'Meizid is Chayav Misah (bi'Yedei Shamayim). What do the Chachamim say?

(b)What does Rebbi Akiva then learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah from Chatas?

(c)What is a Chatas Cheilev? Why do we refer to it by that name?

(d)What is the problem with giving the Chachamim's reason as Ein Gezeirah-Shavah le'Mechtzah?

11)

(a)So we suggest that they argue over the 'Vav' in "ve'Im Nefesh". Rebbi Akiva learns 'Elyon mi'Tachton' as we explained. How does he then dispense with the problem Ein Gezeirah-Shavah le'Mechtzah?

(b)Whereas the Rabbanan learn from the 'Vav', Tachton me'Elyon (Asham Taluy from Asham Me'ilos), but not vice-versa. What does the 'Vav' then teach us?

(c)From which Pasuk in Tzav does Rebbi Akiva (who needs the Hekesh to preclude the Gezeirah-Shavah) then learn that an Asham Taluy must be worth at least two Sela'im?

(d)How do we reconcile the fact that the Rabbanan learn 'Tachton me'Elyon' and not vice-versa, with the principle Ein Hekesh le'Mechtzah?

12)

(a)Now that we have the Pasuk "Zos Toras ha'Asham", why do the Rabbanan need to learn Tachton me'Elyon?

(b)Why would we otherwise have thought that an Asham Taluy is different than other Ashamos?

(c)And according to those who do not Darshen "Zos Toras ha'Asham" as a Hekesh, what does Rebbi Akiva learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah ...

1. ... "be'Erk'cha" "be'Erk'cha" (from Asham Me'ilos)?

2. ... "Ayil" "Ayil"? By which Asham does the Torah not write "be'Erk'cha"?

(d)How come that, despite the Gezeirah-Shavah of "be'Erk'cha" "be'Erk'cha", an Asham Nazir may cost only one Sela?

13)

(a)What problem do we have with Rebbi Tarfon's stipulation (by Safek Asham Me'ilos) 've'Im Safek'?

(b)And we answer that what he means is that, if it remains a Safek, he will be Yotzei with the Asham Taluy that he already brought. What problem do we have with this? Why do we think that he ought not to be Yotzei?

(c)What does Rava therefore extrapolate according to both Rebbi Tarfon and Rebbi Akiva?

14)

(a)What does the regular Korban of a poor Yoledes comprise?

(b)What difference does it make whether her Korban comes in the form of a Vaday or in the form of a Safek (who is not sure whether she gave birth to a baby for which she is Chayav a Korban)?

(c)What does our Mishnah say about a Yoledes Safek who is bringing her Chatas ha'Of, when, before the Melikah has been performed, it is ascertained that she did in fact, gave birth to a Vaday baby?

15)

(a)The Tana Kama exempts someone who ate one of two pieces of Chulin and Kodshim that were lying in front of him, and does not know which one, from an Asham Taluy. Why is that?

(b)What does Rebbi Akiva say?

(c)What happens if ...

1. ... the sinner himself then eats the second piece?

2. ... someone else eats it, according to Rebbi Akiva?

(d)Rebbi Shimon permits them to bring one Asham Taluy between them. What do they then stipulate?

(e)What does Rebbi Yossi say to that?

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