GITIN 17 (18 Teves) - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs. Estanne Abraham Fawer to honor the Yahrzeit of her father, Rav Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Rabbi Morton Weiner) Z'L, who passed away on 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Dafyomi study -- which was so important to him -- during the weeks of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.
 

12th CYCLE DEDICATION
GITIN 17(25 Tamuz) - Dedicated by Les and Sandy Wiesel in memory of Les's mother, Faiga bas Rav Moshe Shmuel z'l.

Gitin Chart #1

Chart for Gitin Daf 2b-17a

WHEN IS A SHALI'ACH OBLIGATED TO SAY "B'FANAI NICHTAV UV'FANAI NECHTAM," AND WHEN IS HE EXEMPT FROM SAYING IT?

(A)
RAVA
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KIYUM
(B)
RABAH
(HAVAH AMINA)
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LISHMAH
(C)
RABAH (1)
(MASKANAH)
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KIYUM +LISHMAH
(D)
RABAH (2)
(ACHAR SHE'LAMDU)
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KIYUM+ SHEMA YACHZOR
1 TWO SHELUCHIM BRING THE GET Patur Chayav Chayav Patur (3)
2 THE GET IS BROUGHT FROM ONE MEDINAH TO ANOTHER WITHIN ERETZ YISRAEL Chayav Patur Chayav Chayav
3 THE GET IS BROUGHT WITHIN ONE MEDINAH IN MEDINAS HA'YAM Patur Chayav Chayav Chayav
4 THE GET IS MEKUYAM Patur (4) Chayav Chayav Chayav (5)
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FOOTNOTES:

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(1) This is the conclusion of the Gemara (end of 4b).

(2) This is discussed in the Gemara on 5a.

(3) So says the Gemara on 5a. On 16b and 17a, though, the Amora'im disagree over this Halachah, and there are those who rule that according to Rabah, when two Sheluchim bring the Get, they must say "b'Fanai Nichtav..." even Achar she'Lamdu (because it is not considered a rare occurrence, and thus the Gezeirah of "Shema Yachzor ha'Davar l'Kilkulo" applies -- Tosfos 5a, DH Bei Trei). Regarding the opinion of Rashi on this matter, in Insights to 5a, 15a, 16b, we raised the possibility that in Rashi's opinion, even Rava might require b'Fanai Nichtav when two Sheluchim bring the Get, according the Amora'im on 16b who require b'Fanai Nichtav when two Sheluchim bring a Get.

(4) So writes Tosfos 5a, DH Bei Trei; see Insights to 2b, where we pointed out that Rashi (top of 16b, see Tosfos 16a DH Aval) seems to disagree with this.

(5) So writes Tosfos 5a, DH Bei Trei. His reasoning is that a Get which is Mekuyam is commonplace, and thus the Gezeirah of "Shema Yachzor..." applies.

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