More Discussions for this daf
1. Yi'ush of coins 2. Finding a coin 3. Is a Siman always necessary?
4. Gemara tries to bring proofs to Rava 5. Ye'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as 6. Lost Objects
7. A Lost Object Without A Siman 8. Yiush she'Lo mi'Da'as 9. Kikaros Shel Ba'al ha'Bayis
10. Scattered fruits belong to the finder 11. Ye'ush She'Lo mi'Da'as 12. Two types of Ganav
13. Two proofs for Rava 14. RASHI ON THE MISHNAH 15. Scattered Fruit and Coins
16. Duchta d'Inish Inish Hu. 17. Siman is found on an object 18. אדם עשוי למשמש בכיסו בכל שעה
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BAVA METZIA 21

A Ehrentreu asks:

Dried pressed fruit cakes, are heavy so the Gemora says one may assume that it is not Yiush shelo midaas for the owner must already know, questions;

1. Maybe the owner had 10 of them and didn't feel one drop?

2. Maybe the owner was not the person carrying the items (fruit, money all the other cases of the mishna) it could have even been his child?

THank you

A Ehrentreu, Modiin, Israel

The Kollel replies:

Sholom Rav,

Why do you confine your questions to a cake of figs. Surely it applies just as much to money and to anything else that one finds - How do we know ... ? be'Kitzur, on what grounds can one keep anything at all on account of Yi'ush? Why is it not always Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as for the same two reasons that you cited? Li'Che'orah one is forced to say that we go after the majority of cases, where it is the owner who lost the article and that he would have noticed that he did.

In fact, it may well be that in the event that the finder saw the person drop it and knows that he is not the owner and noticed that he was carrying ten of them, that he would not be permitted to keep them for himself.

Be'Virchas Kol Tuv,

Eliezer Chrysler