(Mishnah): Date honey, apple wine, vinegar of winter grapes and all other Terumah fruit juices - (if they were consumed inadvertently by a non-Kohen) R. Eliezer obligates him to pay the principal and the fifth but R. Yehoshua exempts him from the fifth. R. Eliezer says that they are susceptible to the Tumah of liquids.

(R. Yehoshua): The Chachamim did not list the seven types of liquids like people that count spices (who do not count accurately); rather they have specifically said that seven liquids are susceptible to Tumah but all other liquids are Tahor.

(Gemara): It was suggested that the disagreement is over the extra fifth, but as for the principal, even R. Yehoshua agrees that it must be paid.

They also only disagree when he already made the honey, but R. Yehoshua agrees that ideally, they may not be consumed by non-Kohanim.

Question (Tosefta): Date honey that comes from Tevel dates - R. Eliezer obligates it to be tithed and R. Yehoshua exempts it. (If so, why would the principal need to be paid?)

Answer: R. Yehoshua obligates when the fruits had already become obligated (to tithe by being brought into the house) and the honey then flowed out.

R. Eliezer agrees that if he tithed for the dates, without knowing how much had flowed out, even if the dates are in Aspamia, it is valid.

(Baraisa) (R. Nasan): R. Eliezer does not obligate it to be tithed; rather he says that he should not eat from the dates until he tithes for the honey.

This means that he tithes from the dates according to the honey and the dates. (Therefore, he may not eat the honey since the quantity must be retained in order for him to tithe correctly.)

The Mishnah taught that R. Eliezer said that those liquids are susceptible to the Tumah of liquids.

Baraisa (R. Nasan): R. Eliezer didn't say this. Rather, he disagreed with the Chachamim when other liquids fell into fruit juice. R. Eliezer said that those liquids are susceptible to the Tumah of liquids. The Chachamim said that we follow the majority (and if the majority is fruit juice, it annuls the liquids).

According to R. Nasan - R. Meir, R. Eliezer ben Yaakov and R. Eliezer have the same view...

R. Meir says that fruit juice never annuls.

R. Eliezer ben Yaakov - as a Baraisa taught - R. Eliezer ben Yaakov says that if any amount of Tamei water fell into Tahor brine, it is Tamei.

R. Eliezer is as was taught here.

R. Eliezer's source (that fruit juices are considered liquids) is the pasuk (Vayikra 11:34), "...(from any food that is eaten, that will have water come upon it will become Tamei), and any liquid (that is (usually) drunk, which is in any vessel, shall become Tamei). Rabbanan's source is the phrase "that is (usually) drunk'' (meaning that it is ready to drink, unlike fruit juices). R. Eliezer follows R. Yishmael who said that one can apply the rule of Klal U'Prat - if there is a generalization, followed by a specification, everything is included. And he said even more than R. Yishmael, that even if there's a specification, a generalization, and then another specification, everything is included. (That's what is found here, as the phrase "that is (usually) drunk'' is a second specification.)

(R. Priguri of Kisarin): Really, R. Elazar is the same as R. Yishmael (and the phrase 'that is (usually) drunk'' is used for a different purpose). And this is R. Eliezer's response to the Chachamim - just as you use the phrase "from any food that is eaten'' to exclude food that became putrid and inedible; so I use the phrase "that is drunk'' to exclude putrid liquid.

(Chachamim to R. Eliezer): Food is not like drink - sea water was always putrid but it is considered a liquid for Tumah. But food that was putrid from the beginning is Tahor.

And furthermore - food is not like drink - human food can contract Tumah even without any forethought. Liquids that are for human consumption only cause something to be able to contract Tumah when he has Machshavah (i.e. he is happy that the liquid fell there).

Rebuttal: Just because they require Machshavah, does that mean that a liquid that was putrid from the beginning can contract Tumah? On the contrary, since they require Machshavah, a liquid that was putrid from the beginning should not contract Tumah?!

Rather, the Chachamim said to R. Eliezer - Foods (are not like liquids, as) if you say about putrid foods (that they cannot contract Tumah) that is because animal foods don't become considered human foods with mere intent, but liquids do.

Support (Baraisa): The pasuk states (Vayikra 11:34), "and any liquid''. What does the phrase "that is (usually) drunk'' teach? It excludes putrid liquid. These are the words of R. Eliezer. The Chachamim said to him, "Since birds and cows don't refrain from drinking them'', they are not excluded.

(Chevraya in the name of R. Elazar): R. Eliezer agrees with the Chachamim that liquid that was originally putrid can cause Tumah.

Question (Mishnah in Maseches Taharos): Juice that oozes from olives (before their work was completed - it is considered putrid liquid, and) R. Eliezer says that it cannot cause Tumah; Chachamim say that it can. (This shows that R. Eliezer says that a putrid liquid is Tahor...?)

Answer (R. Ila citing R. Elazar): When R. Eliezer agrees with the Chachamim (that liquid that was originally putrid can cause Tumah), that was referring to waters of the Mediterranean Sea, that even though they are putrid, the Torah calls them waters as the pasuk states (Bereishis 1:10), "and the gathering of the waters He called seas''.

(R. Yaakov bar Zavdi citing R. Abahu): R. Eliezer agrees with the Chachamim that beet waters and boiling waters do not cause things to be able to contract Tumah.

(R. Yochanan citing R. Shimon ben Yochai): If someone would tell you that when the Chachamim said that seven liquids can cause things to contract Tumah, they also intended to include these liquids - tell him that it cannot be, as the Chachamim should have detailed them, just as they specified dew separately, even though it could have been included as water. And if these liquids from fruits were included, they should have been listed.