12th Cycle dedication

CHULIN 45 (10 Av) - Dedicated by Rabbi Dr. Eli Turkel of Ra'anana, Israel, in memory of his father, Reb Yisrael Shimon ben Shlomo ha'Levi Turkel. Isi Turkel, as he was known, loved Torah and worked to support it literally with his last ounce of strength. He passed away on 10 Av 5740.

1)

(a)What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav say about many tiny holes on the circumference of the Gargeres which resemble a sieve?

(b)Rav Yirmiyah queries Rav Yehudah from a Beraisa which discusses the Shi'ur of holes of a skull. What is the Shi'ur of a hole in a skull that renders the skull unable to be Metamei be'Ohel ha'Meis?

(c)What Shi'ur does the Tana now give if ...

1. ... the hole is elongated instead of round?

2. ... there are many small holes?

(d)How does this pose a Kashya on Rav Yehudah?

2)

(a)Rav Yirmiyah it seems, forgot what Rebbi Chelbo ... Amar Rav said. What did Rebbi Chelbo say to distinguish between holes with a Chesaron (flesh missing) and holes without a Chesaron?

(b)How does this negate Rebbi Yirmiyah's Kashya on Rav Yehudah?

(c)What does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi say about a thin strip of flesh that has been removed from the length of the Gargeres?

(d)Rebbi Yitzchal bar Nachmeni asked him what the Din will be if the Gargeres is punctured like a sieve round the circumference. What did he reply?

3)

(a)What Shi'ur did Rebbi Yitzchak bar Nachmeni give with regard to the equivalent case (Nikvah ke'Nafah) by a bird?

(b)What Si'man did Rav Papa give by which to remember that this is the Shi'ur (and not that of an Isar or of Rov)?

4)

(a)And what Shi'ur does Rav ...

1. ... Nachman give in a case where the Kaneh is cut on three sides in the form of a door? Why is the Din there more lenient than a case of a hole with a Chesaron?

2. ... give in a case where the Kaneh is split lengthwise? What does Chulya mean?

(b)Why is the Halachah more lenient where the split is lengthwise than when it is widthwise?

(c)What objection did Rebbi Yochanan raise to Rav's ruling? What does he say?

(d)What was his reaction when they told him that Rebbi Yonasan said the same thing?

5)

(a)Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef quoting a Beraisa in front of Rebbi Yochanan, gave the location of Shechitah as from the Taba'as ha'Gedolah right down to the lower lobe of the lung. Why is this ruling not Halachah?

(b)How does Rava explain lower in this case?

(c)Is this synonymous with the end of the Kaneh?

6)

(a)Why does Rava explain lower in this way (and not where one is holding the Kaneh in one's hand)?

(b)What does he warn the Shochet not to do?

(c)What do we conclude with regard to Rebbi Chanina (or Rebbi Chananya) as to whether one may Shecht the part of the Kaneh that is exposed when the animal stretches in order to graze where it could not otherwise reach?

(d)What conclusion do Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish between them arrive at regarding ...

1. ... a case where the Shochet stretches the Kaneh before Shechitah?

2. ... the Shi'ur T'reifus regarding a hole in the area of the Kaneh beyond the chest?

7)

(a)A Beraisa defining the Chazah (the chest), gives as the lowest part, the section that sees the ground. One extremity is the neck; what is the other?

(b)To which ar4ea of Halachah is the Tana referring?

(c)What must one do before giving it to the Kohen?

8)

(a)Rav and Shmuel both confine Nikav K'rum shel Mo'ach (which our Mishnah lists as T'reifah), to the upper membrane (that is attached to the inside of the skull), even though the soft, lower membrane is still intact. What do others say?

(b)What Si'man does Rav Shmuel bar Nachmeni give to remind us that the lower membrane exists, even though it is extremely thin?

(c)Bearing this in mind, what example did Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi present as a means of comparison?

(d)What is the major distinction between the two membranes of the brain and the two membranes of the testicles?

9)

(a)What is the difference between the Shi'ur T'reifus of the brain and that of the spinal cord?

(b)How does Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi ... in the name of bar Kaparah, define the border between the two?

(c)Why does Rebbi Yitzchak bar Nachmeni quoting Rebbi Yehoshua ban Levi, then cite the two glands that divides between the brain and the spinal cord?

(d)He is not at first sure to which of the two the actual glands pertain. What does he conclude? On what does he base his conclusion?

(e)What did Rebbi Yirmiyah discover when (presumably for the first time) he examined a bird?

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10)

(a)Our Mishnah includes a hole in the heart that reaches the cavity. Abaye tries to resolve Rebbi Zeira's She'eilah (whether this refers to the large cavity or to one of the smaller cavities), from a statement by Rabah bar Tachlifa ... Amar Rav. What did Rabah bar Tachlifa say regarding Rebbi Shimon's ruling in our Mishnah 'ad she'Tinakev (ha'Rei'ah) le'Beis ha'Simponos'?

(b)Based on the different Leshonos employed by the Mishnah, on what grounds does Rebbi Zeira refute Abaye's proof?

(c)Rav renders an animal with the smallest hole in the Kaneh ha'Leiv a T'reifah. What does Shmuel say?

(d)Rabah bar Yitzchak Amar Rav interprets Kaneh ha'Leiv as the Cheilev on the walls. Why can this not refer to the sides of the animal?

(e)Then what does it refer to?

11)

(a)Ameimar citing Rav Nachman, lists three such Kanim that branch off from the Kaneh after it enters the chest area. One of them runs into the heart, another into the lungs. Where does the third one lead to?

(b)We just learned that Rav and Shmuel argue over the Shi'ur T'reifus of a hole in the Kaneh ha'Leiv. What is the difference between the Shi'ur T'reifus of a hole in the Kaneh ha'Re'ah and that of a hole in the Kaneh ha'Kaved, according to...

1. ... the first Lashon?

2. ... the second Lashon?

(c)What proof do we have that the Halachah is like the first Lashon?

12)

(a)What was Shmuel's reaction when they first told him of Rav's ruling regarding a hole in the Kaneh ha'Leiv? How is it that Shmuel had been previously unaware of Rav's opinion?

(b)According to some texts, Shmuel referred to Rav as Aba Chaveri (in which case, Aba was Rav's name). Why did he refer to him by that name according to the version that reads just Aba?

13)

(a)Rebbi in a Beraisa, gives the Shi'ur T'reifus of the Chut ha'Shedrah as Nifsak be'Rubo. What does Rebbi Ya'akov say?

(b)What did Rebbi rule when an animal was brought before him with a spinal cord that had a hole in it?

(c)How does Rav Huna nevertheless rule?

14)

(a)Rav Huna interprets Rubo as Rov Oro (the majority of the circumference of the skin). What do others say?

(b)What does ...

1. ... the second opinion say about Rov Oro?

2. ... the first opinion say about Rov Mocho?

(c)What did Rav Nasan bar Avin comment when he saw Rav check first for Rov Oro and then, when he found the skin intact, for Rov Mocho?

15)

(a)Rabah bar bar Chanah citing Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi declares T'reifah an animal whose spinal cord is either Nismarech or Nismasmes,. What is the meaning of ...

1. ... Nismarech?

2. ... Nismasmes?

(b)Why does Rabah bar bar Chanah not just present the case of Nismasmes, and allow us to extrapolate Nismarech from a Kal va'Chomer?

(c)Rebbi Yirmiyah asks about an animal with a heavy spinal cord, and remains with a Teiku. What is his She'eilah?

(d)Assuming that the current cases are T'reifah, to which category of T'reifus do they belong?

(e)In which two ways can this be explained?

16)

(a)Bei Rav say 'Nismasmes Pasul, Nismazmez Kasher'. What does Nismazmez mean?

(b)Why do they need to repeat Nismasmes Pasul?

(c)How do they then amend the Beraisa 'Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar Omer, Nismazmez Mochah, T'reifah'?

(d)What did Levi comment when he saw someone bang his head violently in the bathhouse?

(e)If, according to bei Rav, he did not mean that the man was now a T'reifah, what did he mean?

17)

(a)How far does the spinal cord extend?

(b)Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel explains that the Din T'reifus applies up to the Bein ha'Parshos. What are the Bein ha'Parshos?

(c)Where do the first Pitzulin branch off to?

18)

(a)When Rav Dimi bar Yitzchak brought Rav Yehudah a fat goat (Shechted and cut open) to show him where Bein ha'Parshos were, he was unable to do so. Why was that? Why would he have had no problem had the goat been a little thinner?

(b)Why did Rav Yehudah not simply cut the animal open and show Rav Dimi what he needed to know on the inside?

(c)What did Rav Dimi bar Yitzchak then do?

(d)What problem did Rav Yehudah still have in showing him the Beis ha'Parshos?

19)

(a)So he taught him the principle ad Achas, T'reifah, Shelishis, T'reifah ... . What did he mean by that?

(b)What did he say about Sheniyah?

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