1)
(a)If, as we just explained, according to Rav Sheishes, who holds that if a Shomer Chinam denies having received the Pikadon he becomes a Ganav, we might establish Ilfa ('Shevu'ah Koneh') where the animal is standing in the meadow, what are then the ramifications of 'Shevu'ah Koneh'?
(b)Alternatively, we might establish it like Rav Huna Amar Rav. What does Rav Huna Amar Rav say about a Shomer who denies that he has the money that the owner is claiming from him and swears accordingly, should witnesses subsequently substantiate the owner's claim?
(c)From where does he learn this?
(d)What are the ramifications of 'Shevu'ah Koneh' according to this explanation?
1)
(a)If, as we just explained, according to Rav Sheishes, who holds that if a Shomer Chinam denies having received the Pikadon he becomes a Ganav, we might establish Ilfa ('Shevu'ah Koneh') where the animal is standing in the meadow - 'Shevu'ah Koneh' will then mean - that the Shomer becomes Chayav Onsin.
(b)Alternatively, we might establish it like Rav Huna Amar Rav, who says that if the Shomer denies that he has the money that the owner is claiming from him and swears accordingly, should witnesses subsequently substantiate the owner's claim - the Shomer is Patur from paying.
(c)And he learns this from the Pasuk - "ve'Lakach Be'alav ve'Lo Yeshalem", which teaches us that - once the owner has accepted a Shevu'ah, he can no longer claim the money.
(d)The ramifications of 'Shevu'ah Koneh' according to this explanation are - that the Shomer acquires the money completely.
2)
(a)On what grounds does Rava restrict Rav Huna Amar Rav's ruling to a loan, but not to a Pikadon?
(b)So how does he know that this is not what Rav Huna Amar Rav really said?
(c)And why can Rav's Din not extend to a case where the Shomer later admits that he swore falsely?
2)
(a)Rava restricts Rav Huna Amar Rav's ruling to a loan, but not to a Pikadon - because whereas a loan is given to the borrower to spend, and it is feasible to say that when he swears, he becomes exempt from paying, a deposit belongs to the owner, and it is not logical to say that the Shomer acquires it with a Shevu'ah.
(b)That cannot be what Rav Huna Amar Rav really said - because the Pasuk that he quotes is referring to a Pikadon and not to a loan.
(c)Neither can Rav's Din extend to a case where the Shomer later admits that he swore falsely - because that is where the Torah specifically obligates him to pay Keren, Chomesh and Asham.
3)
(a)Rav Acha bar Minyumi queried this from a Beraisa, which rules in a case where, after the Shomer swore that the deposit got lost, witnesses testified to the contrary, that he is Chayav to pay Keren. Why does he not pay Kefel?
(b)And what does the Tana rule there where the Shomer admits that he swore falsely?
(c)How does Rav Nachman initially reconcile the Reisha of the Beraisa (which obligates the Shomer to pay the Keren even after he swore falsely) with Rav Huna Amar Rav?
(d)What is then the problem with the Seifa, which speaks about the equivalent case as in the Reisha, but where the Shomer claimed that the money was stolen (as opposed to lost), and which obligates him to pay Kefel?
3)
(a)Rav Acha bar Minyumi queried this from a Beraisa, which rules in a case where, after the Shomer swore that the deposit got lost, witnesses testified to the contrary, that he is Chayav to pay Keren, not Kefel - because Kefel only applies where the Shomer claims that the money or the object was stolen, but not where he claims that it got lost.
(b)Where the Shomer admits that he swore falsely - the Tana obligates him to pay Keren, Chomesh and Asham (as we just explained).
(c)Rav Nachman initially reconciles the Reisha of the Beraisa (which obligates the Shomer to pay the Keren even after he swore falsely) with Rav Huna Amar Rav - by establishing it where he swore outside Beis-Din (whereas Rav speaks exclusively when he swore inside Beis-Din).
(d)The problem with the Seifa, which speaks about the equivalent case as in the Reisha, but where the Shomer claimed that the money was stolen (as opposed to lost), and which obligates him to pay Kefel is - that one does not pay Kefel on a Shevu'ah that was made outside Beis-Din.
4)
(a)To answer this Kashya, why does Rav Nachman prefer not to establish the Reisha where he swore outside Beis-Din (like he just explained) and the Seifa, where he swore inside?
(b)He therefore establishes both cases inside Beis-Din (leaving us with the Kashya on Rav). Why, in the Reisha, is he Chayav to pay at all? Why does he not acquire the money with his Shevu'ah?
(c)Rami bar Chama asked Rav Nachman, who disagrees with Rav Huna Amar Rav, why he bothered to explain the Mishnah according to him. What was his reply?
(d)If Rav Nachman disagrees with Rav, how does he then explain the Pasuk in Mishpatim "ve'Lakach Be'alav ve'Lo Yeshalem"?
4)
(a)To answer this Kashya, Rav Nachman prefers not to establish the Reisha where he swore outside Beis-Din (like he just explained) and the Seifa, where he swore inside - because that would be a Dochek (a pushed answer).
(b)He therefore establishes both cases inside Beis-Din (leaving us with the Kashya on Rav), and the reason that he does not acquire the money with his Shevu'ah is - because it speaks when the Shomer jumped and swore without having been asked to do so by Beis-Din.
(c)Rami bar Chama asked Rav Nachman, who disagrees with Rav Huna Amar Rav, why he bothered to explain the Mishnah according to him, to which he replied - that even if though he did not hold like him, he still wanted to reconcile Rav with the Mishnah.
(d)Seeing as Rav Nachman disagrees with Rav, he explains the Pasuk in Mishpatim "ve'Lakach Be'alav ve'Lo Yeshalem" to mean - that one only swears in order to become exempt from paying, but not to claim.
5)
(a)Rav Hamnuna queries Rav from the Beraisa, 'Hishbi'a Alav Chamishah Pe'amim, bein bi'Fnei Beis-Din bein she'Lo bi'Fenei Beis-Din ve'Kafar Alav, Chayav al Kol Achas ve'Achas'. What is he Chayav (assuming he confessed to each one)?
(b)Why, according to Rebbi Shimon there, is he Chayav?
(c)The Beraisa is clearly speaking in Beis-Din (because 'Hishbi'a Alav' [as opposed to 'Hishbi'o'] implies the Beis-Din and not the owner), so we cannot establish it outside Beis-Din, as we did the earlier Beraisa. How does Rav Hamnuna himself therefore interpret ...
1. ... 'bein bi'Fenei Beis-Din'?
2. ... 'bein she'Lo bi'Fenei Beis-Din'?
5)
(a)Rav Hamnuna queries Rav from the Beraisa, 'Hishbi'a Alav Chamishah Pe'amim, bein bi'Fnei Beis-Din bein she'Lo bi'Fenei Beis-Din ve'Kafar Alav, Chayav al Kol Achas ve'Achas' - Keren, Chomesh ve'Asham' (assuming he confessed to each one).
(b)According to Rebbi Shimon there, he is Chayav - because each time, he could have admitted and been obligated to pay, in which case, whenever he denied, he denied Mamon (and R. Shimon considers Davar ha'Gorem le'Mamon as Mamon).
(c)The Beraisa is clearly speaking in Beis-Din (because 'Hishbi'a Alav' [as opposed to 'Hishbi'o'] implies the Beis-Din and not the owner), so we cannot establish it outside Beis-Din, as we did the earlier Beraisa. Rav Hamnuna himself therefore interprets ...
1. ... 'bein bi'Fnei Beis-Din' to mean - where he jumped and swore in Beis-Din (as we explained earlier), and ...
2. ... 'bein she'Lo bi'Fnei Beis-Din' - where Beis-Din obligated him to swear, but he opted to swear outside Beis-Din.
6)
(a)What does another Beraisa say about a To'en Ta'anas Ganav who swears and admits ...
1. ... before witnesses testify against him?
2. ... after witnesses testify against him?
(b)Why can this Beraisa not be speaking either where he jumped and swore in Beis-Din, or where he swore outside Beis-Din?
(c)So how does Rava finally reconcile these Beraisos with Rav?
6)
(a)Another Beraisa rules that a To'en Ta'anas Ganav who swears and admits either ...
1. ... before witnesses testify against him - is Chayav Keren, Chomesh and an Asham.
2. ... after witnesses testify against him - is Chayav Keren and Kefel.
(b)This Beraisa cannot be speaking either where he jumped and swore in Beis-Din, or where he swore outside Beis-Din - because then, he would be Patur from Kefel.
(c)Rava finally reconciles these Beraisos with Rav - by pointing out that wherever the Shomer admits that he swore falsely, Rav concedes that he is Chayav, irrespective of whether it is a case of To'en Ta'anas Ganav or To'en Ta'anas Avad.
7)
(a)The reason for the current ruling by To'en Ta'anas Avad is because the Torah writes in Vayikra "ve'Hisvadu". What is the reason by To'en Ta'anas Ganav?
(b)In which case does Rav then hold that he acquires the deposit and is Patur?
(c)When Rav Gamda told this explanation to Rav Ashi, he objected. Based on Rav Hamnuna's earlier Kashya, what was the basis of his objection?
(d)To whom does Amri bei Rav refer?
7)
(a)The reason for the current ruling by To'en Ta'anas Avad is because the Torah writes in Mishpatim "ve'Hisvadu"; by To'en Ta'anas Ganav is - because the Torah obligates payment of Kefel (in both cases, in the equivalent circumstances to Rav).
(b)Ihe sole case in which Rav holds that he acquires the deposit and is Patur is - where he claims that the article is lost, swears and then witnesses testify that he swore falsely.
(c)When Rav Gamda told this explanation to Rav Ashi, he objected, based on Rav Hamnuna's earlier Kashya - Rav Hamnuna, he argues, was a Talmid of Rav, and would have known had Rav conceded that Hodeh is different, yet he still asked on Rav from the Beraisa of Hodeh. Clearly then, Rav does not differentiate between Hodeh and Lo Hodeh (as Rava claims he does).
(d)Amri bei Rav is Rav Hamnuna.
8)
(a)Rav Acha Saba therefore reinterprets Rav Hamnuna's Kashya. In fact, it is not the fact that he could admit that makes it Mamon (as we initially explained Rebbi Shimon). Then what is he asking? What is it that makes it Mamon?
(b)And why is he not Patur because of the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah'?
(c)Why, in fact, can the criterion of whether or not, it is called Mamon, not be determined by whether he admits to having sworn falsely?
8)
(a)Rav Acha Saba therefore reinterprets Rav Hamnuna's Kashya. In fact, it is not the fact that he could admit that makes it Mamon (as we initially explained Rebbi Shimon) - but from the fact that if witnesses then testify, he will be obligated to pay (contrary to Rav's opinion). That is why he would have to bring a Korban for the last Shevu'ah.
(b)Nor is he Patur on account of the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah' - because, since he is able to admit after each Shevu'ah, each Shevu'ah is considered a separate denial.
(c)In fact, the criterion of whether or not, it is called Mamon, cannot be determined by whether he admits to having sworn falsely, because we are speaking when he did not in fact admit. Consequently, if witnesses would not obligate him to pay after he swore falsely (as Rav asserts), it would not be considered Mamon, and he would not be Chayav for each Shevu'ah.
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9)
(a)We know that a To'en Ta'anas Ganav by Pikadon pays Kefel. What does Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about a To'en Ta'anas Ganav by Pikadon who then sells or Shechts the sheep or the cow that he is guarding?
(b)From where does he learn this?
(c)Assuming that this a 'Mah Matzinu', what Pircha can we ask on this Limud?
(d)How do we answer this Kashya? If Rebbi Yochanan does not learn this comparison from a 'Mah Matzinu', then where does he learn it from?
9)
(a)We know that a To'en Ta'anas Ganav by Pikadon pays Kefel. Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan rules that should a To'en Ta'anas Ganav by Pikadon then sell or Shecht the sheep or cow that he is guarding - he pays Daled ve'Hey.
(b)And he learns this - from a Ganav, who pays Kefel for stealing the sheep or the cow and then Daled ve'Hey for Shechting or selling it.
(c)Assuming that this is a 'Mah Matzinu', we ask - how we can possibly learn a To'en Ta'anas Ganav, who only pays Kefel after making a Shevu'ah, from a Ganav, who pays Kefel whether he swore or not.
(d)We answer that Rebbi Yochanan does not learn a To'en Ta'anas Ganav from a Ganav using a 'Mah Matzinu', but from a 'Hekesh' (since the Pasuk of To'en Ta'anas Ganav ("ve'Im Lo Yimatzei ha'Ganav" [in Mishpatim]) is juxtaposed next to that of Ganav ("Im Yimatzei ha'Ganav").
10)
(a)Having learned To'en Ta'anas Ganav from Ganav with a Hekesh, why do we find it necessary to then learn it from the extra 'Hey' in "Ganav ha'Ganav" of To'en Ta'anas Ganav?
(b)What do we extrapolate from the Beraisa that obligates a To'en Ta'anas Ganav to pay Kefel, if witnesses testify that he ate the sheep which he claimed was stolen?
(c)How does Rebbi Chiya bar Aba query Rebbi Yochanan from this Beraisa?
(d)What does Rebbi Yochanan answer? How does he establish the Beraisa?
10)
(a)In spite of having learned To'en Ta'anas Ganav from Ganav with a Hekesh, we find it necessary to then learn it from the extra 'Hey' in "Ganav ha'Ganav" of To'en Ta'anas Ganav - according to the opinion in Merubeh who maintain that both Pesukim refer to To'en Ta'anas Ganav (in which case there is no Hekesh), and that we learn Ganav from the Pasuk ("Im Himatzei Simatzei be'Yado ha'Geneivah" (Ibid.).
(b)We extrapolate from the Beraisa that obligates a To'en Ta'anas Ganav to pay Kefel, if witnesses testify that he ate the sheep which he claimed was stolen - that he pays Kefel, but not Daled ve'Hey.
(c)Rebbi Chiya bar Aba queries Rebbi Yochanan from this Beraisa - in that to have eaten the sheep, he must have Shechted it, in which case, he ought to be Chayav Daled ve'Hey, according to his ruling.
(d)Rebbi Yochanan answers by establishing the Beraisa - where the Shomer ate the sheep as a Neveilah.
11)
(a)Why does Rebbi Yochanan decline to answer that he ate it ...
1. ... when it was a T'reifah?
2. ... when it was a ben Peku'ah?
(b)What is a ben Peku'ah?
(c)What distinction does Rava draw between a Ganav who Shechts or sells an animal after Beis-Din ruled 'Tzei Ten Lo' and after they only said 'Chayav Atah Liten Lo'?
(d)According to Rava, what might Rebbi Yochanan then have answered, to reconcile his opinion with the Beraisa?
11)
(a)Rebbi Yochanan declines to answer that he ate it ...
1. ... when it was a T'reifah - because he establishes the Mishnah like Rebbi Meir, who holds 'Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah Sh'mah Shechitah' (in which case, he would still have to pay Daled ve'Hey [because a T'reifah is a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah]).
2. ... when it was a ben Peku'ah - because here too, according to Rebbi Meir (like whom we just established the Beraisa), a ben Peku'ah requires Shechitah.
(b)A ben Peku'ah is a live calf that one finds inside a Shechted cow, and which, according to the Rabbanan, may be eaten without Shechitah (because its mother's Shechitah covers it, too).
(c)Rava maintains that a Ganav who Shechts or sells an animal after Beis-Din ruled 'Tzei Ten Lo' - is a Gazlan, who does not pay Daled ve'Hey, whereas if he Shechted it after they merely said 'Chayav Atah Liten Lo' (which is not a final ruling), he is not a Gazlan, and will therefore be Chayav Daled ve'Hey.
(d)According to Rava, to reconcile his opinion with the Beraisa, Rebbi Yochanan might then have answered - that the Tana is speaking where he Shechted it after Beis-Din had ruled 'Tzei Ten lo' but not Chayav Atah Liten lo.
12)
(a)We might also have established the Beraisa where one of two partners who stole a sheep, Shechted it without the second partner's consent. Why would he then be Patur from Daled ve'Hey?
(b)Then why did Rebbi Yochanan not give either of these answers? Why did he choose to answer that the Ganav ate it as a Neveilah?
(c)And what does Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan learn from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "al Kol Aveidah asher Yomar ... Yeshalem Shenayim"?
12)
(a)We might also have established the Beraisa where one of two partners who stole a sheep Shechted it without the second partner's consent. He would then be Patur from Daled ve'Hey - either because of the D'rashah "Chamishah Bakar", 've'Lo Chamishah Chatza'ei Bakar', or because of "u'Tevacho" 'Kulei be'Isura (ve'Lo Chetzyo be'Isura)'.
(b)Rebbi Yochanan does not give either of these answers, choosing instead to answer that the Ganav ate it as a Neveilah - because he considered it sufficient to give one answer (even though there are more).
(c)Rebbi Chiya bar Aba learns from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "al Kol Aveidah asher Yomar ... Yeshalem Shenayim"- that a To'en Ta'anas Ganav ba'Aveidah is obligated to pay Kefel.
13)
(a)The Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "Ki Yiten Ish", that one neither swears nor pays Kefel on the claim of a Katan. What does he learn from the Pasuk "ad ha'Elohim Yavo D'var Sheneihem"?
(b)How does Rebbi Aba bar Mamal query Rebbi Yochanan from here? What should the Din here be according to Rebbi Yochanan?
13)
(a)The Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Mishpatim "Ki Yiten Ish", that one neither swears nor pays Kefel on the claim of a Katan. And from the Pasuk "ad ha'Elohim Yavo D'var Sheneihem" - he learns that the same will apply even if he has already grown-up at the time of the claim, seeing as he was a Katan when he handed the Shomer the object to look after.
(b)Rebbi Aba bar Mamal queries Rebbi Yochanan from here, in that according to Rebbi Yochanan - why should the Tana exempt him from a Shevu'ah and from Kefel in the latter case, any more than a To'en Ta'anas Ganav ba'Aveidah (where there was no Nesinah at all), yet he is Chayav to pay Kefel.
14)
(a)How do we answer Rebbi Aba bar Mamal's Kashya? How do we establish the Beraisa to reconcile Rebbi Yochanan with it?
(b)Then what should the Tana have said rather than 'ad she'Tehei Nesinah u'Tevi'ah Shavin ke'Echad'?
(c)How do we answer this Kashya?
14)
(a)To answer Rebbi Aba bar Mamal's Kashya on Rebbi Yochanan, we establish the latter - where the Shomer ate the sheep whilst the owner was still a Katan.
(b)In that case, instead of 'ad she'Tehei Nesinah u'Tevi'ah Shavin ke'Echad', the Tana should rather have said 'ad she'Tehei Achilah u'Tevi'ah Shavin ke'Echad'.
(c)We answer this - by amending the Beraisa to read 'ad she'Tehei Achilah u'Tevi'ah Shavin ke'Echad'.