1)
(a)What did Rav Daniel bar Rav Ketina Amar Rav say in the name of Rav about someone who seizes his friend's Eved and works with him?
(b)How does this clash with Rav's current ruling regarding Avadim?
(c)What do we mean when we answer that Rav Daniel is speaking 'she'Lo be'Sha'as Melachah'?
(d)And we base this on a ruling of Rav Huna. What did Rav Huna rule when Mari bar Mar, prompted by Rebbi Aba, asked him what the Din will be if Reuven takes up residence in Shimon's apartment without his knowledge?
1)
(a)Rav Daniel bar Rav Ketina Amar Rav says in the name of Rav that if someone seizes his friend's Eved and works with him he is Patur from paying the owner.
(b)This clashes with Rav's current ruling because, if Avadim are like Karka, then it is as if he entered his friend's field and used it for his own purposes, depriving the owner of the use of the field, in which case he would be obligated to pay rent.
(c)When we answer that Rav Daniel is speaking 'she'Lo be'Sha'as Melachah', we mean that he is speaking in a case where the owner is not using the Eved, and is therefore not deprived of his use.
(d)And we base this on a ruling of Rav Huna, who when Mari bar Mar, prompted by Rebbi Aba, asked him what the Din will be if Reuven were to take up residence in Shimon's apartment without his knowledge, replied that he is Patur from paying, because 'Zeh Neheneh v'Zeh Lo Chaser, Patur' (as we learned in the second Perek).
2)
(a)Some attribute Rav Huna's ruling to the fact that a house which is inhabited is better looked after and is therefore in better shape than one which has been uninhabited. What do others say?
(b)Seeing as neither of these reasons apply to an Eved, how will we justify Rav Daniel bar Ketina's previous ruling?
(c)What did the members of Rav Yosef's household therefore used to do with the Avadim belonging to their creditors?
(d)Rav Yosef initially justified his actions by quoting Rav Nachman, who stated that Avadim are not worth the bread that they eat. On what grounds did Rav Yosef's son Rabah object to that? Who was 'Daru'?
2)
(a)Some attribute Rav Huna's ruling to the fact that a house which is inhabited is better looked after and is therefore in better shape than one which has been uninhabited. Others say that the owner benefits from the fact that his house is inhabited, because an empty house tends to become haunted by demons, as the Pasuk says in Yeshayah "u'She'iyah Yukas Sha'ar".
(b)Despite the fact that neither of these reasons applied to an Eved, Rav Daniel bar Ketina nevertheless exempted Reuven who worked with Shimon's Eved from paying because the owner benefits from someone working with his Eved when he does not need him, inasmuch as an Eved who remains inactive for a long period of time becomes lazy.
(c)That is why the members of Rav Yosef's household used to take the Avadim belonging to their creditors and work with them.
(d)Rav Yosef initially based justified the actions of his family members by quoting Rav Nachman, who stated that Avadim are not worth the bread that they eat. His son Rabah however, objected to that on the grounds that not all Avadim were of the caliber of Daru, his (Rav Yosef's) Eved, who used to dance around the shops for some wine, and it was to Avadim like Daru to whom Rav Nachman was referring.
3)
(a)What reason did Rav Yosef then offer for allowing his family to work with his creditors' slaves? With whose statement did he equate their actions?
(b)What was Rabah's final objection to his father's leniency? What distinction did he draw between Rav Daniel's case and that with which his father was involved?
(c)And how did Rav Yosef react to that?
(d)And he based this on a statement of Rav Yosef bar Minyumi Amar Rav Nachman. What did he say in this regard?
3)
(a)Rav Yosef then justified his family's actions by citing the statement of Rav Daniel bar Ketina ('ha'Tokef be'Avdo shel Chavero ...') that we quoted earlier.
(b)Rabah's finally objected to his father's leniency by pointing out that his case, unlike that of Rav Daniel bar Ketina, involved Ribis, seeing as the owners of the Avadim owed them money.
(c)At which point Rav Yosef retraced from his previous stance.
(d)And he based this on a statement of Rav Yosef bar Minyumi Amar Rav Nachman, who specifically said that the ruling that Reuven who lives in Shimon's house without his consent is Patur from paying, does not extend to a case where Shimon is Reuven's creditor.
4)
(a)Rav rules that if Reuven seizes Shimon's boat and uses it without permission, the owner may claim whichever is more of the going rental or the depreciation. What does Shmuel say?
(b)Rav Papa explains that Rav and Shmuel in fact, do not argue, because Rav is speaking about a boat that is for rent, and Shmuel, about one that is not. What then, is ...
1. ... Rav's reasoning?
2. ... Shmuel's reasoning?
(c)Alternatively, both are speaking about a boat which is for rent. How does Rav Papa then establish them in a way that they do not argue?
4)
(a)Rav rules that, if Reuven seizes Shimon's boat and uses it without permission, the owner may claim whichever is more of the going rental or the depreciation. Shmuel maintains that he takes the depreciation (and not the rental).
(b)Rav Papa explains that Rav and Shmuel in fact, do not argue, because Rav is speaking about a boat that is for rent, and Shmuel, about one that is not. Consequently ...
1. ... Rav holds that since the boat is for rent, one can assume that he 'borrower' meant to hire it, in which case, he is obligated to pay rent, should it be higher than the depreciation.
2. ... Shmuel reasons that, since the boat is not for rent, he probably intended to steal it, in which case, there is no obligation to pay rent.
(c)Alternatively, both are speaking about a boat which was for rent and Rav Papa explains that Rav speaks where the 'borrower' seized it with the intention of renting it, whereas Shmuel speaks when he intended to steal it.
5)
(a)Rav Huna explains our Mishnah 'Matbei'a ve'Nifsal ... Omer lo Harei she'Lecha Lefanecha' to mean Nifselah Malchus (that the coin was completely withdrawn from circulation). What does Rav Yehudah say about that?
(b)How does he then interpret 've'Nifsal'?
(c)Rav Chisda asked Rav Huna how he would differentiate between 'Paslaso Malchus and Peiros ve'Hichmitz ... ' (where the Tana rules 'Meshalem ke'Sha'as ha'Gezeilah'). What did he reply?
(d)And what did Rav Yehudah reply when Rabah asked him what the difference would be between 'Paslaso Malchus' (which he considered like 'Nisdak') and 'Terumah ve'Nitma'as ... ' (where the Tana rules 'Harei she'Lecha Lefanecha')?
5)
(a)Rav Huna explains our Mishnah 'Matbei'a ve'Nifsal ... Omer lo Harei Shelcha Lefanecha' to mean that the coin was withdrawn from circulation completely. Rav Yehudah says that 'Nifselah Malchus' is no different than 'Nisdak' (where the coin split) ...
(b)... because it is speaking in a case where it was out of circulation on one country, but was still valid in another country.
(c)Rav Chisda asked Rav Huna how he would differentiate between 'Paslaso Malchus and Peiros ve'Hichmitz ... ' (where the Tana rules 'Meshalem ke'Sha'as ha'Gezeilah') to which he replied that whereas there the taste and the smell changed, here (in the case of a disqualified coin) no tangible change took place.
(d)And when Rabah asked Rav Yehudah what the difference would be between 'Paslaso Malchus' (which he considered like 'Nisdak') and 'Terumah ve'Nitma'as ... ' (where the Tana rules 'Harei Shelcha Lefanecha'), he replied that whereas the damage there is not discernible, that of a disqualified coin is, inasmuch it looks different than all the coins that are now in circulation.
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6)
(a)If Reuven lent Shimon goods on condition that he receives money in exchange, Rav requires Shimon to repay coins that are local currency at the time of repayment. What does Shmuel say?
(b)What would the Din be if he had lent him coins?
(c)How does Rav Nachman qualify Shmuel's ruling?
6)
(a)If Reuven lent Shimon goods on condition that he receives money in exchange, Rav requires Shimon to repay coins that are current local currency at the time of repayment. According to Shmuel Shimon can give him coins that are currency elsewhere ('Yachol Lomar lo Lech Hotzi'o be'Meishan!') even though they are no longer accepted locally.
(b)Had he lent him coins he would have had to repay the same type of coins that he received.
(c)Rav Nachman qualifies Shmuel by restricting his ruling to where Reuven is actually going to Meishan.
7)
(a)The Beraisa forbids the redemption of Ma'aser-Sheini on to coins that are not currency, such as 'Kuzbiyos vi'Yerushalmiyos or of the early kings'. Besides money of the country K'ziv, what else might Kuzbiyos mean? How would this interpretation then affect the text?
(b)What do we infer from the statement 'or of the early kings'? How does this pose a Kashya on Rav Nachman's interpretation of Shmuel?
(c)How do we establish the Beraisa to reconcile Shmuel's ruling with it? In which case does Shmuel then speak?
7)
(a)The Beraisa forbids the redemption of Ma'aser-Sheini on to coins that are not currency at the time, such as 'Kuzbiyos vi'Yerushalmiyos or of the early kings'. Besides money of the country Keziv, Kuzbiyos might also mean coins of the era of bar Kochba (who was also known as ben Kuziba). But in that case, we would have to change the text from 'Kuzbiyos vi'Yerushalmiyos' to 'Kuzbiyos Yerushalmiyos'.
(b)From the statement 'or of the early kings', we infer that coins of kings of that particular era may be used to redeem Ma'aser Sheini, even though whether the owner goes there or not is irrelevant, a Kashya on Rav Nachman.
(c)We therefore establish the Beraisa when the governments concerned do not object to foreign coins being used in their countries (in which case, he will be able to spend the money in Yerushalayim), and Shmuel, where they do.
8)
(a)If Shmuel is speaking when the governments are particular about foreign coins being spent there, how can Shimon then tell Reuven to go and spend the money in Meishan?
(b)Why is Reuven then not obligated to accept the coins if he is not going to Meishan?
(c)Another Beraisa forbids the redemption of Ma'aser-Sheini with Yerushalmi coins if the owner and the coins are both in Bavel. Why is that?
(d)What does the Tana say about Babylonian coins that are ...
1. ... in Yerushalayim?
2. ... in Bavel?
8)
(a)Even though, according to Rav Nachman, Shmuel is speaking when the authorities are particular about foreign coins being spent there, Shimon can nevertheless tell Reuven to go and spend the money in Meishan because he is speaking when, although they are fussy if they discover the coins being spent there, they do not enforce the law by making inspections to prevent such transactions from taking place.
(b)Consequently, if Reuven is not going to Meishan, he is not obligated to accept such coins, since he will not be able to offer the coins publicly to other people who are going there.
(c)Another Beraisa forbids the redemption of Ma'aser-Sheini with Yerushalmi coins if the owner and the coins are both in Bavel because the Din by Ma'aser is that the coins on which one redeems the Ma'aser must be considered currency where they are.
(d)The Tana ...
1. ... invalidates Babylonian coins that are in Yerushalayim ...
2. ... but validates them in Bavel.
9)
(a)How do we query Rav Nachman from the current Beraisa?
(b)How will Rav Nachman establish the Beraisa in order to answer this Kashya?
(c)How will he then explain the Seifa 'shel Bavel ve'Hein be'Bavel Mechalelin' (seeing as the Babylonian coins are totally useless in Yerushalayim)?
(d)And how will we reconcile the Beraisa 've'Lo al shel Bavel ve'Hein Ka'an' with the Beraisa 'Hiskinu she'Yih'yu Kol Ma'os Yotz'os bi'Yerushalayim'?
9)
(a)We query Rav Nachman from the current Beraisa from the Reisha, which invalidates Yerushalmi coins when both the owner and the coins are in Bavel (even though the owner is certainly going to Yerushalayim), a Kashya on Rav Nachman.
(b)To answer this Kashya, Rav Nachman will establish the Beraisa when not only are the authorities fussy about accepting foreign coins, but that they also enforce the law by making inspections to prevent such transactions from taking place.
(c)The Tana nevertheless permits 'Shel Bavel ve'Hein be'Bavel' because one can purchase animals in Bavel to take to Yerushalayim to eat there.
(d)And we will reconcile the Beraisa 've'Lo al Shel Bavel ve'Hein Ka'an' with the Beraisa 'Hiskinu she'Yih'yu Kol Ma'os Yotz'os bi'Yerushalayim' by establishing the latter when Yisrael has the upper-hand, whereas the former Beraisa speaks at a time when the Nochrim have the upper-hand, and we are forced to abide by their laws.
10)
(a)The coins of Yerushalayim had David and Shlomo engraved on one side of the coin. What was engraved on the other side?
(b)What was the engraved on the coins from the time of Avraham Avinu?
10)
(a)The coins of Yerushalayim had David and Shlomo engraved on one side of the coin and the words 'Yerushalayim Ir ha'Kodesh' on the other.
(b)The coins from the time of Avraham Avinu were engraved with an old man and an old woman (symbolizing Avraham and Sarah) on one side and a young man and a young woman (Yitzchak and Rivkah) on the other.
11)
(a)What did Rav Chisda reply when Rava asked him ...
1. ...what the Din will be if Reuven were to lend Shimon goods on condition that he returns coins, and they subsequently increased the size of the coins?
2. ... whether this would even apply if the coins reached the size of a sieve or of a weight the size of a quarter of a Kav?
(b)Why is this She'eilah confined to the opinion of Rav? What would Shmuel say in this case?
(c)What problem do we have with Rav Chisda's ruling?
(d)How does Rav Ashi attempt to answer this Kashya? In what way does he restrict Rav Chisda's ruling?
11)
(a)When Rava asked Rav Chisda ...
1. ...what the Din will be if Reuven were to lend Shimon goods on condition that he returns coins, and they subsequently increased the size of the coins, he replied that he must pay him the new enlarged coin (because that is the currency that is currently in use).
2. ... whether this would even apply if the coins reached the size of a sieve or of a weight the size of a quarter of a Kav he replied that it would.
(b)This She'eilah is confined to the opinion of Rav who learned above that in the case where Reuven lent Shimon goods, Shimon must repay coins that are currently accepted as currency; According to Shmuel he can give him the old coins and tell him to go and spend them in Meishan, where presumably, they are still acceptable (see also Shitah Mekubetzes).
(c)The problem with Rav Chisda's ruling is why it is not forbidden because of Ribis, seeing as Reuven is now able to buy more fruit with the same coins.
(d)Rav Ashi attempts to answer this Kashya by restricting Rav Chisda's ruling to where the price of fruit dropped anyway, due to a bountiful harvest (but not if it dropped due to the increased value of the coins).