1)

(a)We just refuted the suggestion that the Tana Kama of the Beraisa ('Yavi Edim l'Beis-Din') and Aba Shaul ('Yavi Adudah l'Beis-Din') argue over P'chas Neveilah, to avoid creating a problem with Rav (or Rava ['Lo Nitzr'cha Ela li'P'chas Neveilah']), and we conclude that both Tana'im hold 'P'chas Neveilah d'Nizak'. What then is the basis of their Machlokes?

(b)What does Acherim learn from the Pasuk "Kesef Yashiv l'Be'alav, v'ha'Mes Yiheyeh Lo'?

(c)Assuming that a carcass is worth more outside the pit than inside it, what problem did Abaye have with Acheirim's Derashah?

(d)What did Rava answer him? What saying does he quote to back this up?

1)

(a)We just refuted the suggestion that the Tana Kama of the Beraisa ('Yavi Edim l'Beis-Din') and Aba Shaul ('Yavi Adudah l'Beis-Din') argue over P'chas Neveilah, to avoid creating a problem with Rav (or Rava ['Lo Nitzr'cha Ela li'P'chas Neveilah']), and we conclude that both Tana'im hold 'P'chas Neveilah d'Nizak'. The basis of their Machlokes is whether 'Torach Neveilah' (the trouble of extricating the Neveilah from the pit) belongs to the Mazik' (Aba Shaul) or to the Nizak' (the Rabanan).

(b)Acherim learns from the Pasuk "Kesef Yashiv l'Be'alav, v'ha'Mes Yiheyeh Lo" that it is up to the Nizak to extricate the carcass from the pit (like Aba Shaul).

(c)Assuming that a carcass is worth more outside the pit than inside it, Abaye's problem with Acherim's Derashah was why it is necessary at all, seeing as it is in the Nizak's interest to take out the carcass.

(d)Rava answered him that the Beraisa speaks in a case where the value of the carcass is the same inside the pit as outside it, and he backs this up with a popular saying 'A beam in town is worth a Zuz, and so is a beam in the field'.

2)

(a)What did Shmuel mean when he said 'Ein Shamin Lo l'Ganav v'lo l'Gazlan'? What did they say with regard to a damaged article?

(b)What problem do we have with his conclusion 'va'Ani Omer Af l'Sho'el, v'Aba Modeh li'? Who was Aba?

(c)We try to solve the problem from an episode where someone broke a bolt that he borrowed from his friend, and Rav ruled that he must replace the bolt with a new one, that Shmuel must have meant 'Ein Shamin'. How do we counter this proof? What did Rav Kahana and Rav Asi exclaim?

(d)'Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar Shamin l'Ganav u'le'Gazlan. Rav Papi Amar Ein Shamin'. What is the Halachah in the case of ...

1. ... Ganav and Gazlan?

2. ... a borrower?

2)

(a)When Shmuel said 'Ein Shamin Lo l'Ganav v'Lo l'Gazlan', he meant that it was customary for Dayanim not to assess a stolen object (which means that, in the event of its having depreciated after the theft, the thief would return it together with the balance); but rather they would obligate the thief to replace the stolen article with a new one. They would however, assess a damaged article.

(b)The problem with his conclusion 'va'Ani Omer Af l'Sho'el, (ve'Aba [Rav] Modeh li)' is its ambiguity; whether he meant 'Af l'Sho'el Shamin (like Nezikin), or ' ... Ein Shamin' (like Ganav and Gazlan).

(c)We try to solve the problem from an episode where someone broke a bolt that he borrowed from his friend, and Rav ruled that he must replace the bolt with a new one, in which case, a proof that Shmuel must have meant 'Ein Shamin'. We counter this proof however, with Rav Kahana and Rav Asi there who exclaimed 'Is that the Din?', to which Rav remained silent, indicating that the Halachah is 'Ein Shamin', even according to Rav.

(d)'Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar, Shamin l'Ganav u'le'Gazlan. Rav Papi Amar, Ein Shamin'. The Halachah in the case of ...

1. ... Ganav and Gazlan is Ein Shamin.

2. ... a borrower Shamin.

3)

(a)What will be the Din if a Shilyah (a placenta) appears without a baby inside? Why is that?

(b)What is the Din regarding Tum'ah in the case of a Leidah Yaveshta (a dry birth in which a woman gives birth without seeing any blood)?

(c)What is the criterion that renders the woman Tamei Tum'as Leidah with regard to a Shilyah?

3)

(a)If a Shilyah (a placenta) appears without a baby inside the woman must nevertheless observe fourteen days of Tum'ah immediately (followed by twenty-six days of Taharah), because 'Ein Shilyah b'Lo Vlad' (there is no such thing as a Shilyah without a baby inside and if no baby is visible, then it must have melted).

(b)In the case of a 'Leidah Yeveshta' (a dry birth, where the woman did not see any blood) is Tamei Leidah anyway.

(c)The criterion that renders a woman Tamei Tum'as Leidah is that the majority of the baby emerged with the Shilyah or part of the Shilyah (see Rashash).

4)

(a)What does Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar say about a Shilyah, part of which emerged on one day, and the remainder on the next? Why is that?

(b)What objection does Rava raise to the text of Rebbi Elazar's ruling?

(c)So how does Rava amend the text?

(d)How many days does the woman subsequently count ...

1. ... of Tum'ah?

2. ... of Taharah? Why is that?

4)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar says in the case of a Shilyah, part of which emerged on one day, and the remainder on the next that we reckon the fourteen days of Tum'ah already from the first day (in case the majority of the baby emerged with it).

(b)Rava objects to the text of Rebbi Elazar's ruling inasmuch as, bearing in mind that the first day is no more than a Safek, going l'Chumra on the first day will lead to a Kula on the fifteenth, which one will then reckon as the first day of Taharah, rendering Tahor any blood that she may see on that day.

(c)Rava therefore amends the text to read ' ... Chosheshin Lah mi'Yom Rishon', meaning that one considers her Tamei on the first day, but begins counting the fourteen days of Tum'ah from the second (le'Chumra, but not l'Kula, as we shall now see.

(d)The woman subsequently counts ...

1. ... fifteen days of Tum'ah.

2. ... twenty-five days of Taharah because as far as the days of Taharah are concerned, we are also strict, ignoring the first day (as far as the days of Taharah are concerned), to begin counting her days of Taharah as if the second day of Tum'ah was the first day, but to end the count one day earlier, as if the first day was the first day of Tum'ah.

5)

(a)What is the underlying principle on which Rebbi Elazar's Chidush is based?

(b)How would the Din differ were it not for this principle?

(c)On what grounds does the Mishnah in Chulin forbid eating part of a Shilyah of an animal that emerges whilst the mother is still alive? What is the criterion for part of an animal that emerges from the womb (even if it returns) to be forbidden, even assuming that it returned into the womb and one subsequently Shechted the mother?

(d)Does the Mishnah draw any distinction between the Shilyah of an animal and that of a human?

5)

(a)The underlying principle on which Rebbi Elazar's Chidush is based is 'Ein Miktzas Shilyah b'Lo Vlad' (even a small part of a Shilyah that emerges from the womb must contain part of a baby)

(b)Were it not for this principle we would not render the woman Tamei on the first day, because of a S'fek S'feika (see Tosfos DH 'Shilyah'), whereby maybe no part of the baby emerged at all, and even if it did, maybe it was not a majority. And we would then consider the second day as her first of Tum'ah in all regards.

(c)The Mishnah in Chulin forbids eating part of a Shilyah of an animal that emerges whilst the mother is still alive, on the grounds that maybe the majority of the baby emerged with it and (even if it returns) it will forbidden because of Neveilah, even if one subsequently slaughters the mother.

(d)The Tana continues 'Siman Vlad b'Ishah, Siman Vlad bi'Veheimah' (in other words, we learn the Din of the Shilyah of an animal from that of a human).

6)

(a)What problem does the Mishnah in Chulin now create regarding Rebbi Elazar's ruling?

(b)To resolve this problem, we explain that, without Rebbi Elazar, we might have thought 'Yesh Miktzas Shilyah b'Lo Vlad'. Then why would the Tana have forbidden even part of the Shilyah that emerged?

(c)And why would this decree not apply to a human Shilyah?

6)

(a)The problem now is that seeing as the Tana forbids part of a Shilyah of an animal, based on 'Ein Miktzas Shilyah b'Lo Vlad', what is Rebbi Elazar coming to teach us?

(b)To resolve this problem, we explain that, without Rebbi Elazar, we might have thought that 'Yesh Miktzas Shilyah b'Lo Vlad', and the reason that the Tana forbids even part of the Shilyah that emerged is because we decree a part of the Shilyah on account of the whole one (which would definitely be forbidden because of Neveilah).

(c)This decree would not apply to a human Shilyah because seeing as we count her days from the second day (as we explained earlier), everyone would know that a part of a Shilyah is a Safek, and not definitely Tahor (and no decree would therefore necessary). Consequently, we need Rebbi Elazar to teach us 'Ein Miktzas Shilyah b'Lo Vlad', both in the case of a human Shilyah and in that of an animal.

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7)

(a)What did Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar say about a first-born son who is killed during the first thirty days?

(b)But don't we already know this from the Pasuk in Korach "u'Feduyav mi'Ben Chodesh Tifdeh"?

(c)How does the Beraisa quoted by Rami bar Chama learn this from the Pasuk there "Ach Padoh Sifdeh Es Bechor ha'Adam"?

7)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar says that a first-born son who is killed during the first thirty days does not need to be redeemed.

(b)The Pasuk "u'Feduyav mi'Ben Chodesh Tifdeh" comes to preclude specifically a baby who died from Pidyon ha'Ben, since his premature death proves that he was a Nefel (a premature baby who could not live), but not a healthy baby who was killed.

(c)The Beraisa quoted by Rami bar Chama learns this from the Pasuk "Ach Padoh Sifdeh Es Bechor ha'Adam" from the word "Ach", which always comes to exclude.

8)

(a)We learned in a Mishnah in Kidushin that a large animal is acquired by means of a Kinyan Mesirah. On what basis then, does Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar say 'with Meshichah'?

(b)What does Rebbi Shimon there hold?

(c)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also says that, when brothers divide their father's estate, we assess the clothes that they (but not their [wives - Rosh, and] children) are wearing (out of the estate). Why is that?

(d)What is Rav Papa then referring to when he says that sometimes one does not even assess the clothes that 'they' are wearing?

8)

(a)We learned in a Mishnah in Kidushin that a large animal is acquired by means of a Kinyan Mesirah (and not Meshichah see Rashi and Tosfos in Kidushin). Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar says with Meshichah on the basis of the Beraisa 'va'Chachamim Omrim, Zu v'Zu (both a small animal and a large one) bi'Meshichah'.

(b)Rebbi Shimon says 'Zu v'Zu b'Hagbahah'.

(c)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also says that, when brothers divided their father's estate, we assess the clothes that they (but not their [wives Rosh, and] children) are wearing (out of the estate) because (women and) children generally shun going to Beis-Din (since it is considered degrading for them).

(d)When Rav Papa says that sometimes one does even assess the clothes that 'they' are wearing he is referring to fine clothes that the oldest son is wearing, because the other brothers are only too pleased that, he, as the family representative, is smartly dressed.

9)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also ruled that a Shomer who hands the article he is guarding to another Shomer for safekeeping, is Patur. This is certainly the case if a Shomer Chinam hands it to a Shomer Sachar, where he improves the Shemirah. What will be the Din in the reverse case, where he lowers the level of Shemirah?

(b)Why is that?

(c)What are the ramifications of this ruling? What are we exempting him from?

(d)Rava disagrees. What does Rava say?

(e)What is the reason for this?

9)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also ruled that a Shomer who hands the article he is guarding to another Shomer for safekeeping, is Patur irrespective of whether a Shomer Chinam hands it to a Shomer Sachar (where he improves the Shemirah) or the reverse case, where he lowers the level of Shemirah ...

(b)... because he did after all, hand it to a ben Da'as (a sane, grown-up person).

(c)The ramifications of this ruling are that he (the first Shomer) will be Patur from Onsin (from which he would have been Patur even if he had retained it) on the basis of the Shevu'ah of the second Shomer (but not from Geneivah va'Aveidah).

(d)According to Rava however not only is a Shomer Sachar who handed the article to a Shomer Chinam (thereby down-grading the level of Shemirah) Chayav, but even a Shomer Chinam who handed it to a Shomer Sachar (where he improves the Shemirah) is Chayav too ...

(e)... because the owner can say to the first Shomer 'I handed you my article for safekeeping, because I trust you and I accept your Shevu'ah. But I don't trust the man to whom you entrusted it, and I don't accept his Shevu'ah!'

10)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also said that a creditor may claim slaves in lieu of his debt. What did Ula reply when Rav Nachman asked him ...

1. ... whether he meant even from the Yesomim (assuming that the borrower had died)?

2. ... that this was obvious?

(b)What is so obvious about the fact that a creditor can claim the Eved directly from the debtor?

(c)In fact, he connected this Halachah with a statement of Rava. What did Rava say about someone who designated ...

1. ... his Eved as an Aputiki and then sold him?

2. ... his ox as an Aputiki and then sold it?

(d)Why the difference?

10)

(a)Ula Amar Rebbi Elazar also ruled that a creditor may claim slaves in lieu of his debt. When Rav Nachman asked Ula ...

1. ... whether he meant even from the Yesomim (assuming that the borrower had died) he replied 'No, only from the borrower himself'.

2. ... that this was obvious he replied that he was speaking when the borrower had designated the Eved as an Aputiki (the acronym of 'Apa Tehei Ka'i', meaning that he now has special rights to claim from this particular property), and then sold him, the Chidush being that the creditor is now empowered to claim him from the purchaser (even though he cannot claim him from the debtor's Yesomim should the debtor himself die [according to the prevalent theory at this point).

(b)It is obvious that the creditor can claim the Eved directly from the debtor because everything that the debtor owns is Meshubad to the creditor, even the shirt on his back.

(c)In fact, he connected this Halachah with a statement of Rava, who said that if someone designated ...

1. ... his Eved as an Aputiki and then sold him he can claim him from the purchaser.

2. ... his ox as an Aputiki and then sold it he may not claim it.

(d)The reason for this difference is because whereas an ox has no Kol (that it is an Aputiki, and the purchaser cannot therefore safeguard himself against losing it), an Eved has.

11)

(a)What did Ula comment after Rav Nachman had left?

(b)What did Rav Nachman comment when he got to hear about it?

(c)What was Ula afraid of?

11)

(a)After Rav Nachman had left, Ula commented that Rebbi Elazar had really permitted claiming the Eved even from the Yesomim.

(b)When Rav Nachman got to hear about it, he commented that Ula had evaded him because he was afraid of him.

(c)Ula, who maintained that Avadim (in this regard), are like Karka, was afraid that Rav Nachman, who holds that Avadim are like Metaltelin, might overwhelm him with arguments that prove him wrong.