1)
We have already cited Rav Yehudah, who rules that if Reuven takes a scythe and a rope and says that he will go down to pick dates from the palm that he purchased from Shimon, and subsequently does so, he is believed. Why is that?
Why would some people build a wall within the borders of their field, leaving some land outside the wall?
According to Rav Yehudah, one cannot establish a Chazakah on that section of land. Why not?
1)
We have already cited Rav Yehudah, who rules that if Reuven takes a scythe and a rope and says that he will go down to pick dates from the palm that he purchased from Shimon, and subsequently does so, he is believed - because a person would not have the Chutzpah to brazenly pick somebody else's fruit.
Some people would build a wall within the borders of their field, leaving some land outside the wall - where they would throw food for the wild animals that emerged from the forest nearby. This would prevent them from entering the field to scavenge food.
According to Rav Yehudah, one cannot establish a Chazakah on that section of land - because seeing as whatever grow there is eaten by the wild animals, the owner will not bother to make a Mecha'ah. This in turn, is because the Machzik is not making the Chazakah in the regular way (i.e. on an area of land on which one would normally make a Chazakah).
2)
Rav Yehudah rules that there is no Chazakah if someone eats Orlah. A Beraisa corroborates this. Which two other items does the Beraisa add to the list?
Why is there no Chazakah on ...
... Orlah and Kil'ayim?
... Shevi'is?
What is Rabeinu Chananel's version of the Beraisa's ruling?
2)
Rav Yehudah rules that there is no Chazakah if someone eats Orlah. A Beraisa corroborates this. The Beraisa adds - Kil'ayim and Shevi'is to the list.
There is no Chazakah on ...
... Orlah or Kil'ayim - because they are forbidden to eat (so the owner does not care to make a Mecha'ah on them).
... Shevi'is - because it is Hefker (and the owner does not bother there either).
Rabeinu Chananel's version of the Tana's ruling is - that Orlah, Kil'ayim and Shevi'is are subject to Chazakah (though we reject his version).
3)
What is Shachas?
Why does Rav Yosef say 'Achlah Shachas, Lo Havi Chazakah'?
Why does Rava say that if this were to happen in the valley of Mechuza, it would be a Chazakah?
3)
Shachas, as we already learned, is crops that have only partially grown, and are only fit for animals to eat.
Rav Yosef rules 'Achlah Shachas Lo Havi Chazakah' - because this is not the way people make a Chazakah (and what's more, the very fact that the Machzik harvests the crops before they are ripe indicates that he is attempting to steal the field and that he is afraid to make a proper Chazakah (by waiting until they are ripe).
Nevertheless, Rava rules that in the valley of Mechuza, it would be a Chazakah - since the residents of Mechuza, who were extremely wealthy, owned many animals, whom they would regularly feed Shachas.
4)
Rav Nachman rules that 'Tafticha Lo Havya Chazakah'. According to Rabeinu Chananel, this refers to a field which the Machzik did not plow, and where a sort of furrow appeared naturally after it rained, the wind blew and the sun shone. What else might Rav Nachman mean? Why is it not then a Chazakah?
What does 'Apik Kura ve'Ayil Kura' mean?
Why is it not considered a Chazakah?
4)
Rav Nachman rules that 'Tafticha Lo Havya Chazakah'. According to Rabeinu Chananel, this refers to a field which the Machzik did not plow, and where a sort of natural furrow appeared after it rained, the wind had blown and the sun shone. Rav Nachman might also have been referring to - an open field that is full of cracks and does not produce much fruit. Consequently, the owner does not care to make a Mecha'ah on it.
'Apik Kura ve'Ayil Kura' means - that one sows a Kur of seeds and only a Kur grows, meaning that there is no profit ...
... which explains why the owner does not care to make a Mecha'ah.
5)
Why can ...
... the family of the Resh Galusa not establish a Chazakah on the fields of others?
... others not establish a Chazakah on the fields of the Resh Galusa?
Which explanation of the latter case do we reject?
5)
The reason that ...
... the family of the Resh Galusa cannot establish a Chazakah on the fields of others is - because they are too afraid of him to make a Mecha'ah.
... others cannot establish a Chazakah on the fields of the Resh Galusa is - because the latter, who owned a lot of land, were pleased when someone took over their land and looked after it, so they would deliberately refrain from making a Mecha'ah. Neither were they afraid of someone making a Chazakah on their land, because they knew that they would have no trouble in retrieving it by force if necessary.
We reject the explanation - that they were so busy seeing to their business affairs, that they did not know what was happening to their property (and so were unable to make a Mecha'ah).
6)
What does Resh Lakish mean when he says 'ha'Godros Ein lahem Chazakah? What sort of Chazakah is he talking about?
By which Metalt'lin is one also not believed to say 'Laku'ach hu be'Yadi' ('I bought it from you!')?
How does Rava reconcile Resh Lakish's ruling with our Mishnah, which lists Avadim (which also move on their own) among the things that are subject to Chazakah?
Rava also confines Resh Lakish's ruling to an Eved who is at least able to walk, but precludes a baby Eved in his cot (who is subject to Chazakah). Why might we have thought otherwise?
On what grounds do we then refute that suggestion?
6)
When Resh Lakish rules that 'ha'Godros Ein lahem Chazakah', he means - that the regular Chazakah of ownership that applies to Metalt'lin (which will be explained shortly) does not apply to anything which moves under its own steam, because it might have wandered on its own into the claimant's field, or the latter may have found it wandering around in the street and taken it into his R'shus.
One is also not believed to say 'Laku'ach hu be'Yadi' ('I bought it from you!') by Metalt'lin - which people tend to lend or to rent out.
Rava reconciles Resh Lakish's ruling with our Mishnah, which lists Avadim (which also move on their own) among the things that are subject to Chazakah - by establishing that with regard to the three-year Chazakah of Karka (which the Tana is discussing).
Rava also confines Resh Lakish's ruling to an Eved who is at least able to walk, but precludes a baby Eved in his cot (who is subject to Chazakah). We might have thought otherwise - because he may have been carried into the Machzik's R'shus by his mother, who forgot him there.
We refute that suggestion however - on the grounds that a mother does not forget her baby.
7)
Some goats ate Chushli in someone's field in Neherda'a. What is 'Chushli'?
What did the owner of the Chushli subsequently do?
What did Shmuel's father rule?
How do we reconcile this with Resh Lakish's principle 'ha'Godros Ein lahem Chazakah'?
Why are we not afraid that in the morning when the goats would customarily make their own way to the shepherd, or in the evening, when they would make their own way home from the town-center, they perhaps strayed into the Machzik's field (in which case he would not be believed when he claimed that he had purchased them)?
7)
Some goats ate Chushli - peeled barley that one would spread out in the field to absorb the sun, in someone's field in Neherda'a.
The owner of the Chushli - seized the goats as a security against the claim he had on their owner that far exceeded the value of the goats.
Shmuel's father ruled - that the Nizak was only believed to claim as much as the goats were worth, because he had a 'Migu' (in that he could have claimed that he had purchased them from him).
We reconcile this with Resh Lakish's principle 'ha'Godros Ein lahem Chazakah' - by differentiating between other animals and goats, which (because they are wild), would be handed to a shepherd, and would therefore not be able to stray into someone's field, or to be found wandering in the street and taken into his possession.
Neither are we afraid that in the morning when the goats would customarily make their own way to the shepherd, or in the evening, when they would make their own way home from the town-centre, that they perhaps strayed into the Machzik's field (in which case he would not be believed when he claimed that he had purchased them) - because in Neherda'a, there were a lot of Arabs who would steal the animals if they were allowed to go unaccompanied in the streets.
8)
We learned in our Mishnah that, with regard to a Sadeh Beis ha'Ba'al, Rebbi Yishmael requires only eighteen months to establish a Chazakah, whereas Rebbi Akiva requires fourteen. We suggest that perhaps the basis of their Machlokes is whether Nir constitutes a Chazakah or not. What do we mean by that? What is 'Nir'?
On what grounds do we reject this suggestion? Why would Rebbi Akiva not then require fourteen months?
We therefore conclude that even according to Rebbi Akiva, plowing does not constitute a Chazakah. Then what is the basis of their Machlokes?
8)
We learned in our Mishnah that, with regard to a Sadeh Beis ha'Ba'al, Rebbi Yishmael requires only eighteen months to establish a Chazakah, whereas Rebbi Akiva requires fourteen months. We suggest that perhaps the basis of their Machlokes is whether Nir (plowing) constitutes a Chazakah or not - Rebbi Akiva considers plowing a Chazakah, whereas according to Rebbi Yishmael, a Chazakah must consist exclusively of eating the fruit.
We reject this suggestion however, on the grounds - that Rebbi Akiva would not then require fourteen months, but twelve months and two days (since plowing a field does not take longer than a day).
We therefore conclude that even according to Rebbi Akiva, plowing does not constitute a Chazakah, and the basis of their Machlokes is - whether a Chazakah comprises a full harvest (e.g. barley, oats and lentils, that grow in three months [Rebbi Yishmael]), or whether even picking Shachas (or the vegetable harvest) will suffice (Rebbi Akiva).
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9)
We learned in a Beraisa that plowing alone does not constitute a Chazakah. What do Yesh Omrim say?
We establish 'Yesh Omrim' in this case as Rebbi Acha, who disputes the Tana Kama's opinion in another Beraisa. What does Rebbi Acha say there in connection with leaving a field fallow)? In which case does he argue with the Tana Kama?
How does he substantiate his opinion?
Rav Bibi attributes Rav Acha's ruling to the fact that a person would not remain silent whilst a stranger plowed his field. How would the Rabbanan counter that?
9)
We learned in a Beraisa that plowing alone does not constitute a Chazakah. Yesh Omrim say - 'Harei Zeh Chazakah'.
We establish 'Yesh Omrim' in this case as Rebbi Acha, who disputes the Tana Kama's opinion in another Beraisa. There he says - that leaving a field fallow one year (which means that he plowed it but did not sow it), sowing it one year, and leaving it fallow the third year, constitutes a Chazakah.
He substantiates his opinion - by citing all the Gedolei ha'Dor, whose opinion he sought, and who told him that 'Nir Havi Chazakah'.
Rav Bibi attributes Rav Acha's ruling to the fact that a person would not remain silent whilst a stranger plowed his field. The Rabbanan would counter that - on the contrary, the owner would be only too happy to let the would-be Machzik break his plow on his field in the process of softening his earth, before taking his field back for sowing.
10)
How did Rav Nachman respond when Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda, in reply to a She'eilah from the people of Pum Nahara, cited Rebbi Acha and all the Gedolei ha'Dor who hold 'Nir Havi Chazakah'?
What statement did Rav Yehudah Amar Rav (citing the Chachamim) make from which Rav Nachman extrapolates that Rav holds that, according to Rav, plowing alone is not a Chazakah)?
How do we know in the opinion of the Rabbanan, plowing does not constitute a Chazakah?
The basic difference between Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva on the one hand, and the Rabbanan on the other, has to do with their respective reasons for Chezkas Shalosh Shanim. What is then the reason of ...
... Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva?
... the Rabbanan?
10)
When Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda, in reply to a She'eilah from the people of Pum Nahara, cited Rebbi Acha and all the Gedolei ha'Dor who hold 'Nir Havi Chazakah', Rav Nachman - with a statement that his list was no big deal, seeing as Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah, as well as Rav and Shmuel in Bavel, all hold that plowing does nor constitute a Chazakah.
Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, commenting on the opinions of Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah, concludes - that the Chachamim require three full years from day to day (from which Rav Nachman extrapolates that, according to Rav, plowing alone is not a Chazakah).
We know that, in the opinion of the Rabbanan, plowing does not constitute a Chazakah - because if they disagree with the Chazakah of 'Peira Rabah and Peira Zuta' of Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva, then they certainly disagree with that of plowing (which even Rebbi Yishmael and Akiva disagree with [though in any event, if plowing constitutes a Chazakah, then one year and two days would suffice, as we learned earlier]).
The basic difference between Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva on the one hand, and the Rabbanan on the other, is based on their respective reasons for Chezkas Shalosh Shanim. According to ...
... Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva - it is because the owner did not make a Mecha'ah (for which eighteen months will suffice); whereas according to ...
... the Chachamim - it is someone who acquires a field cannot be expected to keep his Sh'tar for more than three years.
11)
How does Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel quote the Rabbanan, who disagree with Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva?
Seeing as either way, the Rabbanan require three full years for a Chazakah, Rav and Shmuel appear to be saying the same thing as before. How does Abaye therefore explain the Machlokes between Rav and Shmuel in the way they interpret the Rabbanan? What are then the respective opinions of Rav and Shmuel with respect to the dates that grow on a young date-palm?
Rabeinu Chananel explains this quite differently. According to him, 'Dekel Na'arah' means a date-palm that sheds its dates. How does he then explain the respective opinions of Rav and Shmuel?
11)
Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel quotes the Rabbanan, who disagree with Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva, as saying - that they require three full harvests of dates, grapes or olives (which normally constitutes three years).
Seeing as either way, the Rabbanan require three full years for a Chazakah, Shmuel appears to be saying the same thing as Rav. Abaye however, explains the Machlokes between Rav and Shmuel with respect to the dates that grow on a Dekel Na'arah (a young date-palm), which are ready to harvest before the end of the year. According to Shmuel therefore, this will constitute a Chazakah (seeing as the Machzik has picked three harvests of dates), whereas according to Rav, who requires three full years, it will not.
Rabeinu Chananel explains this quite differently. According to him, 'Dekel Na'arah' means a date-palm that sheds its dates - which is not a Chazakah according to Shmuel (since the Machzik does not harvest the fruit), though it is according to Rav (since three years have elapsed).
12)
According to a second Lashon, 'Dekel Na'arah' is the equivalent of a 'Dekel D'yup'rin'. What ia a 'Dekel D'yup'rin'?
According to Rav, the Chazakah is not effective, because a Chazakah in any case, requires three years. What do the Rabbanan hold, according to Shmuel?
12)
According to a second Lashon, 'Dekel Na'arah' is the equivalent of a 'Dekel D'yup'rin', which is - a date-palm that produces two crops annually.
According to Shmuel - the Rabbanan consider the Chazakah effective after one and a half years (after three crops have been picked), whereas according to that of Rav, they do not, because a Chazakah requires three years, period.
13)
What does Abaye say about Reuven, who establishes a Chazakah on ten out of thirty trees in a field the size of three Beis-Sa'ah (ten trees per Beis-Sa'ah) one year, a second ten, in the second year, and the third ten, in the third year, according to the Rabbanan (in the opinion of Shmuel)?
And he extrapolates this from Rebbi Yishmael in our Mishnah? What did Rebbi Yishmael say that serves as a basis for Abaye's observation?
On what grounds does Abaye learn the one from the other?
This Chazakah requires two further details in order to be effective. What do we mean when we say that ...
... they did not produce fruit? Why should fruit-trees not produce fruit (according to Rabeinu Chananel)?
... they are spread out?
13)
Abaye states that, according to the Rabbanan (in the opinion of Shmuel) if Reuven establishes a Chazakah on ten out of thirty trees in a field the size of three Beis-Sa'ah (ten trees per Beis-Sa'ah) one year, a second ten, in the second year, and the third ten, in the third year - it is considered a Chazakah on all thirty trees.
And he extrapolates this from Rebbi Yishmael, who says in our Mishnah - that if Reuven establishes a Chazakah on produce, olives and figs in one year, it is as if he has established a three-year Chazakah.
Abaye learns the one from the other - on the grounds that Rebbi Yishmael only argues with the Rabbanan inasmuch as where they require three years, he suffices with three crops in one year. Conversely however, whatever Rebbi Yishmael considers a Chazakah in one year, the Rabbanan consider a Chazakah in three.
This Chazakah requires two further details in order to be effective. When we say that ...
... they did not produce fruit, we mean - that the twenty trees each year that did not participate in the Chazakah did not produce fruit that year (because if they did, and Reuven did not benefit from them, there would be no Chazakah). This is possible, explains Rabeinu Chananel, in a case of 'B'nos Shu'ach' (wild fig-trees, that only produce fruit once every three years).
... they are spread out, we mean that - the ten trees that did produce fruit, and which Reuven picked, were spread evenly in each of the three Beis-Sa'ah (three in one, three in the other and four in the third).
14)
What will be the Din, regarding Chazakah, if there are ...
... ten trees in an area that is less than a Beis-Sa'ah?
... less than ten trees in a Beis-Sa'ah?
14)
If there are ...
... ten trees in an area that is less than a Beis-Sa'ah - the Chazakah will not take effect, since due to the compact space (which renders the field more like a forest), this is not the way that people make a Chazakah in a field.
... less than ten trees in a Beis-Sa'ah - the Chazakah will not take effect either, though it will acquire the trees, together with the amount of land that each tree requires.