1)

(a)According to Shmuel, the decree on Nochri oil was due to the exuding of Tamei vessels into the oil. What does Rav say?

(b)What problem do we have with Shmuel's reason?

(c)So how do we amend it?

1)

(a)Shmuel maintains that the decree of Nochri oil was due to the exuding of Tamei vessels into the oil. According to Rav - it was a decree issued by Daniel.

(b)The problem with Shmuel's reason is - that seeing as most people were not worried about eating Tum'ah, why should the Chachamim issue a decree on it.

(c)So we amend it to read - that the Isur of Nochri oil was due to the exuding of forbidden vessels into the oil.

2)

(a)What did Rebbi Simla'i from Lud Darshen in Netzivin with regard to the Isur of Nochri oil?

(b)Why did Shmuel feel at ease with that statement?

(c)He tried to prove Rav wrong, based on a Mishnah in Iduyos. What does the Mishnah there say about one Beis-Din negating the ruling of another?

(d)Why is that a Kashya on Rav?

2)

(a)Rebbi Simla'i from Lud Darshened in Netzivin - that the Isur of Nochri oil was rescinded by Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'ah.

(b)Shmuel felt at ease with that statement - because since the taste that the vessels exuded was an unpleasant one, it was a question of 'Nosen Ta'am li'Fegam', giving good Halachic grounds for rescinding the prohibition.

(c)Shmuel tried to prove Rav wrong, based on a Mishnah in Iduyos, which specifically prohibits one Beis-Din from rescinding the decrees of another, unless it is greater in wisdom and numbers ...

(d)... a Kashya on Rav - because how could Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'a then rescind a decree issued by Daniel?

3)

(a)Rav queried the source of the statement (that Rebbi Yehudah and his Beis-Din had lifted the ban on oil) based on the fact that it was quoted by Rebbi Simla'i from Lud. What was his objection?

(b)What was Rav's reaction when Shmuel threatened to pass on what Rav had said to Rebbi Simla'i himself?

(c)Rav therefore cited the Pasuk in Daniel "Va'yasem Daniel al Libo asher Lo Yisga'el be'Pas Bag ha'Melech u'be'Yein Mishtav". What did he extrapolate from the word "Mishtav" (which has plural connotations)? What did he try to prove from there?

(d)How did Shmuel counter Rav's proof?

3)

(a)Rav queried the source of the statement (that Rebbi Yehudah Nesui'ah and his Beis-Din had lifted the ban on oil) based on the fact that it was quoted by Rebbi Simla'i from Lud, - since the Ludians were known to misquote the Chachamim (see Ya'avatz).

(b)When Shmuel threatened to pass on what Rav had said to Rebbi Simla'i himself - Rav became embarrassed.

(c)Rav therefore cited the Pasuk in Daniel "Va'yasem Daniel al Libo asher Lo Yisga'el be'Pas Bag ha'Melech u'be'Yein Mishtav". He extrapolated from the word "Mishtav" (which has plural connotations) - that Daniel also decreed on something to do with feasting besides wine, namely oil.

(d)Shmuel counters Rav's proof - by explaining that although Daniel had in mind to issue such a decree, he did not actually do so.

4)

(a)We query Rav's earlier statement (that Daniel decreed on Nochri oil) from a statement by Ba'ali quoting Avimi Nusa'a in the name of Rav. Who, according to him, were the instigators of the decree on bread, oil, wine and Nochri daughters?

(b)On what grounds do we reject the suggestion that Daniel ...

1. ... tried to decree on oil but it was not accepted until Beis Hillel and Beis Shamai decreed, and it was?

2. ... decreed in the town, and Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel extended the prohibition to the field?

(c)This Kashya would be valid even if one Beis-Din could normally rescind the ruling of another, due to a statement of Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan. What did Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about the 'eighteen decrees of Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel'?

4)

(a)We query Rav's earlier statement (that Daniel decreed on Nochri oil) from a statement by Ba'ali quoting Avimi Nusa'a in the name of Rav, who cites - Beis Shamai nd Beis Hillel as the instigators of the decree on bread, oil, wine and their daughters.

(b)We reject the suggestion that Daniel ...

1. ... tried to decree on oil but it was not accepted until Beis Hillel and Beis Shamai decreed, and it was - because then Rav's statement that Daniel issued the decree would be meaningless.

2. ... decreed in the town and Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel extended the prohibition to the field - because then we are left with the question how Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'ah could rescind a decree issued by Beis Shamai and beis Hillel.

(c)This Kashya would be valid even if one Beis-Din could normally rescind the ruling of another due to a statement of Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, who stated - that the 'eighteen decrees of Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel' may under no circumstances ever be rescinded (even by Eliyahu ha'Navi and his Beis-Din).

5)

(a)How do we finally solve the problem? How could Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'ah rescind the decree on oil, even if it was one of the eighteen decrees?

(b)In fact, he relied on statements by Raban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rebbi Elazar bar Tzadok. What did they say in this regard?

(c)What is the meaning of the Pasuk in Mal'achi ...

1. ... ''ba'Me'eirah Atem Ne'arim"?

2. ... "ve'Osi Atem Kov'im"?

(d)How does Rav Ada bar Ahavah Darshen the conclusion of the Pasuk "ha'Goy Kulo"?

5)

(a)We finally solve the problem - by pointing out that the decree on oil was never accepted in the first place, in which case even if it was one of the eighteen decrees, Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'ah could rescind it.

(b)And he relied on statements by Raban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rebbi Elazar bar Tzadok, who ruled - that a Beis-Din cannot issue decrees that effect the community unless the majority of the community can live by them.

(c)The meaning of the Pasuk in Mal'achi ...

1. ... ''ba'Me'eirah Atem Ne'arim" is - that first Yisrael accept decrees that are issued with a curse, and then ...

2. ... "ve'Osi Atem Kov'im" - they rob (Hash-m of the curses).

(d)Rav Ada bar Ahavah Darshens the conclusion of the Pasuk "ha'Goy Kulo" - that decrees should only be issued if all (i.e. the majority) of the people can stand up to them).

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6)

(a)We spoke earlier about the decree on bread, oil, wine and their daughters (issued by Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel). According to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, they decreed an Isur Nidus on their daughters from birth. What does G'niva in the name of Rav say?

(b)Rav's explanation is based on a statement by Rav Acha bar Ada Amar Rebbi Yitzchak. Why do we amend his words 'Gazru al Pitan Mishum Shamnan' to read 'Gazru al Pitan ve'Shamnan Mishum ... '?

(c)So he says 'Gazru al Pitan ve'Shamnan Mishum Yienan, ve'al Yeinan Mishum Benoseihen'. How does he conclude his statement?

(d)How do we initially reconcile the decree on their daughters with the Pasuk in Va'eschanan "Lo Sischaten Bam", rendering adultery with a Nochris d'Oraysa?

6)

(a)We spoke earlier about the decree on bread, oil, wine and their daughters (issued by Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel). According to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak they decreed an Isur Nidus on their daughters from birth; whereas according to G'niva in the name of Rav - they prohibited their daughters (as we shall see shortly), as well as their bread, oil, wine - because of Avodah-Zarah.

(b)Rav's explanation is based on a statement by Rav Acha bar Ada Amar Rebbi Yitzchak, whose words 'Gazru al Pitan Mishum Shamnan' we amend to read 'Gazru al Pitan ve'Shamnan Mishum ... ' - because there was no reason to initially forbid their bread any more than their oil.

(c)So he says 'Gazru al Pitan ve'Shamnan Mishum Yienan, ve'al Yeinan Mishum Benoseihen - ve'al Benoseihen Mishum Davar Acher ve'al Davar Acher Mishum Davar Acher'.

(d)Initially, we reconcile the decree on their daughters with the Pasuk in Va'eschanan "Lo Sischaten Bam", rendering adultery with a Nochris d'Oraysa - by establishing that Pasuk by the seven nations, whilst Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel are referring to other Nochrim (not of the seven nations).

7)

(a)The problem with this answer lies in the opinion of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai. What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the Pasuk there "Ki Yasir es Bincha me'Acharai"?

(b)We refute the suggestion that the Torah forbids intermarriage, whilst Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel decreed adultery with a Nochris, on the basis of the Pasuk in Vayeishev "Va'yomer Yehudah Hotzi'uhah Ve'sisaref". What do we learn from there, that clashes with that suggestion?

(c)If, as we answer, the Beis-Din of Shem decreed on a bas Yisrael having relations with a Nochri, on whom did Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel then decree?

7)

(a)The problem with this answer lies in the opinion of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai, who learns from the Pasuk there "Ki Yasir es Bincha me'Acharai" - that all Nochrim are included in the Isur. According to him then, what did Beis-Shamai and Beis Hillel decree?

(b)We refute the suggestion that the Torah forbids intermarriage, whilst Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel decreed adultery with a Nochris, on the basis of the Pasuk in Vayeishev "Va'yomer Yehudah Hotzi'uhah Ve'sisaref", from which we learn - that Yehudah (i.e. the Beis-Din of Shem) was the one to issue this decree, preceding Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel by some fifteen hundred years.

(c)We answer that Shem's Beis-Din decreed on a bas Yisrael (who will easily be swayed to follow in his ways) having relations with a Nochri - whereas Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel extended it to a Yisrael having relations with a Nochris (where the fear of being convinced to serve idols is less).

8)

(a)What does Mar say about someone who has relations with a Nochris?

(b)How do we reconcile what we just said (ascribing the decree to Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel) with Mar's statement?

(c)What did Rav Dimi mean when, upon arriving from Eretz Yisrael, he declared that the Beis-Din of the Chashmona'im decreed on a Yisrael who had relations with a Nochris because of 'Nashga'? If the 'Nun' and the 'Shin' stand for Nidah and Shifchah, what do the 'Gimel' and the 'Alef' stand for?

(d)What did Rav Dimi mean with that statement?

8)

(a)Mar rules that if someone has relations with a Nochris - 'Kana'in Pog'in Bo' (someone who is zealous may kill him on the spot).

(b)We reconcile what we just said (ascribing the decree to Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel) with Mar's statement - by confining the latter to an act performed in public (like that of Zimri with Kozbi), whereas Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel's decree pertains to acts performed privately.

(c)When Rav Dimi, upon arriving from Eretz Yisrael, declared that Beis-Din of the Chashmona'im decreed on a Yisrael who had relations with a Nochris because of 'Nashga' he meant because of Nidah, Shifchah - Goyah (through marriage) and Eishes Ish.

(d)What he meant was - that we are afraid that a man who has relations with a Nochris, will go on to have relations with any of these four (who are all forbidden min ha'Torah, and loosely incorporated in a Nochris), so they decreed an Isur de'Rabbanan on having relations with a Nochris, incorporating all four.

9)

(a)When Ravin arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he referred to the decree as 'Nashgaz'. What does the 'Zayin' stand for?

(b)How do we now resolve the She'eilah? What did the Beis-Din of the Chashmona'im decree, and what did that of Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel decree?

(c)To which episode is Rav Yehudah referring, when he states that the Beis-Din of David ha'Melech decreed on Yichud?

(d)So how do we then reconcile what we just said (that Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel decreed on Yichud) with Rav Yehudah's statement?

9)

(a)When Ravin arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he referred to the decree as 'Nashgaz' - replacing Eishes Ish with Zonah (a woman who had relations with a man who was forbidden to her).

(b)We now resolve the She'eilah, by establishing the Beis-Din of the Chashmona'im's decree - by intimacy, and that of Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel - by Yichud (secluding oneself with them them).

(c)When Rav Yehudah states that the Beis-Din of David ha'Melech decreed on Yichud - he is referring to the episode of Amnon's rape of Tamar.

(d)And we reconcile our current statement (that Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel decreed on Yichud) with Rav Yehudah's statement - by restricting Rav Yehudah's case to the Yichud of a Yisre'elis, whereas Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel extended it to Yichud with a Nochris.

10)

(a)What problem do we have with the Pasuk in Re'ei "Ki Yesischa Achicha ben Imecha ... "?

(b)How does Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak solve it? Why does the Torah mention specifically ''ben Imecha"?

(c)So how can we attribute Yichud of a Yisre'elis to the Beis-Din of David ha'Melech?

(d)Whom did Beis-Samai and Beis Hillel then add to the decree?

(e)Rebbi Yitzchak concludes that the Chachamim decreed 'Davar Acher Mishum Davar Acher' as we explained. How does Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak explain this?

10)

(a)The problem with the Pasuk in Re'ei "Ki Yesischa Achicha ben Imecha ... " is - why the Torah writes specifically "ben Imecha", as if it was only a maternal brother who convinces one to serve idols and not a paternal one.

(b)Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak learns from this Pasuk - that of all the Arayos, the only one with whom Yichud is permitted, is one's mother, a proof that Yichud with all other Arayos is d'Oraysa.

(c)Nevertheless, we attribute Yichud of a Yisre'elis to the Beis-Din of David ha'Melech - by confining the Torah's prohibition to Yichud of a married woman (besides the women that constitute incest), whereas David decreed on unmarried (Jewish) women.

(d)Whereas Beis-Samai and Beis Hillel added - Nochri women to the decree.

(e)Rebbi Yitzchak concludes that the Chachamim decreed 'Davar Acher Mishum Davar Acher', as we explained. Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak explains this to mean - that they decreed every young Nochri child to be a Zav (to avoid Jewish children playing with them and indulging in homosexuality).

11)

(a)What difficult She'eilah in connection with the later decree did Rebbi Zeira have that he passed on to Rebbi Asi, who passed it on to Rebbi Yochanan ... Rebbi Yanai ... Rebbi Nachman ben Amram and finally Rebbi?

(b)Rebbi ruled - that they decreed on a Nochri from the day that he is born. What did Rebbi Chiya say?

(c)What did Rebbi have to say, when Rebbi Nachman ben Amram told him what Rebbi Chiya had said?

11)

(a)The difficult She'eilah in connection with the later decree that Rebbi Zeira passed on to Rebbi Asi, who passed it on to Rebbi Yochanan ... Rebbi Yanai ... Rebbi Nachman ben Amram and finally Rebbi was - from which age this latter decree takes effect.

(b)Rebbi ruled - that they decreed on a Nochri from the day that he is born. According to Rebbi Chiya, it is - from the age of nine (from the time that his Bi'ah is considered a Bi'ah).

(c)When Rebbi Nachman ben Amram told Rebbi what Rebbi Chiya had said - Rebbi instructed him to ignore his own ruling, and to accept that of Rebbi Chiya, which was more logical than his (as we just explained).

12)

(a)What did Ravina extrapolate from the above ruling, regarding a Tinokes Ovedes-Kochavim?

(b)Why did he find it necessary to say that? Why is it not obvious?

12)

(a)Ravina extrapolated from the above ruling - that by the same token, a Tinokes Ovedes-Kochavim will be considered a Zavah from the age of three (since that is the age when her Bi'ah is considered a Bi'ah).

(b)Ravina found it necessary to say that, because we might otherwise have thought - that such a young girl does not have sufficient sense to entice someone to commit adultery with her, and that the age for the decree of Zivus of a Nochris will be nine, like that of a Nochri.

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