POINT BY POINT OUTLINE
Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim daf@dafyomi.co.il http://www.dafyomi.co.il
1) THE ARGUMENT ABOUT KEEPING A PAID LOAN DOCUMENT
(a) Answer #3 (Rava): All agree that a lender must validate
the document even when the borrower agrees that he
authorized it - they argue about whether or not we write
a receipt [and force the borrower to pay when he admits
that he owes and the lender claims that he lost the loan
document]:
1. The first Tana holds that we write a receipt (and
then the paid document is useless for the lender,
since he may not keep it; presumably, the borrower
does not want it for a cork, lest he lose the
receipt and the loan document will end up in the
hands of the lender);
2. R. Yehudah holds that we do not write a receipt
[lest the borrower lose the receipt and the lender
will collect again. If the lender paid and
temporarily accepted a receipt, the lender needs
the loan document - if he will not return it, he
must return the money.]
(b) Answer #4 (Rav Ashi): R. Yehudah says that borrowers keep
paid loan documents to show [potential lenders] that they
pay their debts.
2) THE "SHI'UR" OF "HOTZA'AH" FOR HIDE
(a) (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for hide is to make...
(b) Question (Rava): What is the Shi'ur to be liable for
Hotza'ah of hide?
(c) Answer (Rav Nachman - Mishnah): The Shi'ur for hide is to
make a Kemi'a.
(d) Question (Rava): What is the Shi'ur to be liable for
tanning hide?
(e) Answer (Rav Nachman): It is the same Shi'ur.
(f) Question: What is the source of this?
(g) Answer (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for the following is a
double Sit (as far as one can separate his thumb and
index finger, this is twice as much as he can separate
his middle and index fingers) - laundering, Menapetz,
dying and spinning;
1. The Shi'ur for weaving two threads is a Sit.
2. Inference: Because laundering, Menapetz and dying
are preparations for spinning, their Shi'ur is the
same as for spinning - likewise, because hide will
be tanned, the Shi'ur for Hotza'ah is the same as
for tanning.
(h) Question (Rava): What is the Shi'ur for hide that will
not be tanned?
(i) Answer (Rav Nachman): It is the same - also the Shi'ur
for tanned hide is the same.
(j) Question (Beraisa): If one was Motzi soaked ingredients
[for dye], the Shi'ur is to dye a sample [to show
potential buyers of dyed wool] the same size as an Ira (a
ball that seals the shuttle holding the woof thread).
1. This is less than the Shi'ur for ingredients that
were not soaked!
2. (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for nutshells, pomegranate
peels, Satis and Pu'ah (plants used to make dye) is
enough to dye a small garment in the middle of the
headdress.
(k) Answer (Rav Nachman): This is because people do not
bother to soak [less than this, e.g.] the amount needed
for a sample.
(l) Question: The Shi'ur for unplanted garden seeds is unlike
the Shi'ur for planted seeds [used to determine the
Shi'ur for other things for their sake]!
1. (Mishnah): One is liable for Hotza'ah of less than
k'Grogeres of garden seeds;
2. R. Yehudah ben Beseira is Mechayev for five seeds.
3. (Mishnah - R. Akiva): The Shi'ur for manure or fine
sand is enough to fertilize a stalk of cabbage;
4. Chachamim say, it is enough to fertilize a leek
stalk.
(m) Answer (Rav Papa): This is because people do not bother
to take out a single seed to plant.
(n) Question: The Shi'ur for mud before kneading is unlike
the Shi'ur after kneading!
1. (Beraisa): Chachamim agree that the Shi'ur for
Hotza'ah of waste water is a Revi'is.
2. Question: What use is there for waste water?
3. Answer (R. Yirmeyah): It can be used to knead mud.
4. (Beraisa): The Shi'ur for mud is to make an opening
[for a bellows] in a furnace.
(o) Answer: One is not liable for less than a Revi'is because
people do not bother to knead [less than this, e.g.] the
amount needed for a furnace opening.
(p) Question: R. Chiya bar Asi taught that there are three
hides - Matzah, Cheifah and Diftara;
1. Matzah is a hide that was not salted or treated with
flour or gallnuts.
2. Question: What is the Shi'ur for [Hotza'ah of]
Matzah?
3. Answer (Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah): It is enough to
wrap a small weight.
4. Question: What is the size of this weight?
5. Answer (Abaye): It is a quarter Litra of Pumbadisa.
6. Cheifah is a hide that was salted but not treated
with flour or gallnuts.
7. Question: What is its Shi'ur?
8. Answer (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for [Cheifah] hide is
enough to write a Kemi'a.
9. Diftara is a hide that has been salted and treated
with flour, but not with gallnuts; its Shi'ur is the
size to write a Get.
10. Summation of question: We said that the Shi'ur for
Matzah is enough to wrap a small weight; Abaye
explained, this is the quarter Litra of Pumbadisa
(this is larger than for tanned hide)!
(q) Answer: The Matzah referred to is moist, freshly flayed
hide (it is not ready to be tanned).
(r) Question (Mishnah): The Shi'urim to receive Tum'as Medras
for fabric is three by three [Tefachim]; the Shi'urim for
sackcloth, leather and matting to receive Tum'as Medras
or Tum'as Mes are, respectively, four by four, five by
five and six by six.
1. (Beraisa): For cloth, Sak and hide, the Shi'urim for
Tum'ah and Hotza'ah are the same (The Shi'ur for
hide is five Tefachim - we must say because it was
not tanned, the Shi'ur is bigger!)
(s) Answer: That refers to cooked, hardened leather for a
seat, bed or table.
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3) THE "SHI'UR" OF "HOTZA'AH" FOR PARCHMENT
(a) (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for Klaf (parchment) is to write
the smallest Parshah [in Tefilin, i.e. Shma]. (Hide has
two layers, they are peeled apart; the outer layer is
Klaf, the inner layer is Duchsustus.)
(b) Contradiction (Beraisa): The Shi'ur for Klaf and
Duchsustus is to write a Mezuzah (Parshas. Shma and
"V'Hayah Im Shamo'a").
(c) Resolution: The Beraisa means, to write a Mezuzah
(parchment) of Tefilin (each of the four Parshiyos in
head Tefilin is on its own parchment).
(d) Question #1: Would the Tana call Tefilin 'Mezuzah'?!
(e) Answer: Yes!
1. (Beraisa): Tefilin straps on Tefilin Metamei hands,
the straps by themselves do not Metamei hands;
2. R. Shimon ben Yehudah says, R. Shimon is Metaher
hands that touch the straps, unless they touched the
boxes;
3. R. Zakai says, R. Shimon is Metaher, unless they
touched the Mezuzah itself.
(f) Question #2 (Seifa [*of the Beraisa*]): The Shi'ur for
Klaf is to write the smallest Parshah in Tefilin, i.e.
Shma.
1. This implies that the Reisha truly discusses a
Mezuzah! (Tosfos - the Beraisa contradicts itself
regarding Klaf - the Gemara prefers to ask the
contradiction between the Mishnah and Beraisa.)
(g) Resolution #2: The Beraisa means, what is the Shi'ur for
Klaf and Duchsustus? The Shi'ur for Duchsustus is to
write a Mezuzah; the Shi'ur for Klaf is to write the
smallest Parshah in Tefilin, i.e. Shma.
4) MAY "DUCHSUSTUS" BE USED FOR WRITING "TEFILIN"?
(a) (Rav): Duchsustus is like Klaf - one may write Tefilin on
it, just like on Klaf.
(b) Question (Mishnah): The Shi'ur for Klaf is to write the
smallest Parshah in Tefilin, i.e. Shma.
1. Inference: This is the Shi'ur for Klaf, but not for
Duchsustus!
(c) Answer: L'Chatchilah, one should write Tefilin on Klaf
(therefore, Duchsustus is not normally used for Tefilin).
(d) (Beraisa): A tradition from Moshe from Sinai teaches that
Tefilin are written on Klaf, Mezuzos are written on
Duchsustus.
1. On Klaf, we write on the inner side (that faced the
animal's flesh), on Duchsustus, we write on the
outer side (that faced the hair).
(e) Answer: That is l'Chatchilah (b'Diavad, Tefilin on
Duchsustus is Kosher).
(f) Question (Beraisa): If one deviated, it is Pasul.
(g) Answer: That refers only to writing Mezuzah on Klaf (but
Tefilin on Duchsustus is Kosher).
(h) Question (Beraisa): If one deviated in either of these,
it is Pasul.
(i) Answer #1: This refers to writing Mezuzah on the wrong
side of either parchment, i.e. on the outer side of Klaf
or on the inner side of Duchsustus.
(j) Answer #2: Tana'im argue about this (Rav holds like R.
Acha):
1. (Beraisa): If one deviated in either of these, it is
Pasul;
2. R. Acha is Machshir.
(k) Answer #3 (Rav Papa): Rav holds like Tana d'vei Menasheh:
1. (Tana d'vei Menasheh): If one wrote on paper or a
rag, it is Pasul; on Klaf, Gevil (the full double
layer of hide) or Duchsustus, it is Kosher.
2. Question: What did he write?
3. Answer #1: He wrote a Mezuzah.
4. Rejection: Mezuzah may not be on Klaf!
5. (Implied answer #2: Rather, he wrote Tefilin.)
(l) Rejection (of Answer #3 and implied Answer #2): Tefilin
may not be on Gevil!
1. Answer #3 (to Question r:2): He wrote a Sefer Torah.
(m) Support (for Rav - Beraisa #1): (The Reisha taught that
hand Tefilin may be used for head Tefilin, but not
vice-versa, because [head Tefilin are more Kodesh -] we
ascend in Kedushah, we do not descend.) Similarly, if
(parchments of) a Sefer Torah or Tefilin became worn,
they may not be used for a Mezuzah, for we do not descend
in Kedushah.
1. Inference: If it was permitted to descend in
Kedushah, they could be used for a Mezuzah!
2. Suggestion: They [are Kosher for Mezuzah because
they] were written on Duchsustus (this shows that
Duchsustus is Kosher for Tefilin)!
(n) Rejection: No, they were written on Klaf.
(o) Question: May one write a Mezuzah on Klaf?!
(p) Answer: Yes (according to R. Shimon ben Elazar, Beraisa
#1 is like him)!
1. (Beraisa): If one wrote [a Mezuzah] on Klaf, paper
or a rag, it is Pasul;
2. R. Shimon ben Elazar says, R. Meir used to write on
Klaf, because it lasts.
(q) Retraction: Rav did not say that Duchsustus is like Klaf,
rather, that Klaf is like Duchsustus - one may write
Mezuzah on Klaf, just like on Duchsustus. (Tosfos - Rav
merely said that Klaf and Duchsustus are the same - the
Gemara thought that he meant that Duchsustus is like
Klaf, to Machshir Tefilin on it.)
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