ZEVACHIM 99 (TISHA B'AV) - Dedicated by Rabbi Dr. Eli Turkel of Ra'anana, Israel, in memory of his father, Reb Yisrael Shimon ben Shlomo ha'Levi Turkel, whose Yahrzeit is on 10 Av.

1)

TOSFOS DH Tevul Yom u'Mechusar Kipurim Einam Cholkim... (cont.)

úåñôåú ã"ä îúðé' èáåì éåí åîçåñø ëéôåøéí àéðí çåì÷éí... (äîùê)

ôé' áðîöà çåõ ìéøåùìéí ãìà âæøå òì ñô÷ ëìéí äðîöàéí áéøåùìéí ëãàîø áô''÷ ãôñçéí (ãó éè:)

(a)

Explanation: [The Kli] was found outside Yerushalayim, for they did not decree on Safek Kelim in Yerushalayim, like it says in Pesachim (19b);

åáé''ã ùåçè áä îéã ãîñúîà äèáéìåäå îàúîåì ëãé ùéäà ìå äòøá ùîù

1.

[If he found it] on the 14th he slaughters with it immediately, for presumably [the owner] immersed it yesterday so it will have Ha'arev Shemesh.

åìà çééùéðï ùîà ðèîà áèåîàä ãøáðï ãìà áòé äòøá ùîù åìà çù ìäèáéì òã é''ã åòãééï ìà äèáéì

(b)

Implied question: We should be concerned lest it became Tamei through a Tum'ah mid'Rabanan, which does not require Ha'arev Shemesh, and he was not concerned to immerse it before the 14th, and he did not immerse it yet!

äééðå îùåí ãëéåï ãäåæ÷÷ ìäèáéì áé''â îùåí èåîàä ãàåøééúà ìà çééùéðï ùîà ðèîà àçø ëê áùåí èåîàä

(c)

Answer #1: Since he needed to immerse it on the 13th due to Tum'ah mid'Oraisa, we are not concerned lest it became Tamei afterwards through any Tum'ah. (Sefas Emes asks that perhaps the owner had no concern for Tum'ah mid'Oraisa, and intended to immerse on the 14th for Tum'ah mid'Rabanan! Tosfos in Chagigah says that this is a Safek mid'Rabanan; Chachamim were not stringent. Alternatively, it is normal to immerse the night before. Our Tosfos could hold like the first answer.)

åòåã ëùâæøå òì ñô÷ ëìéí äðîöàéí îùåí çùù èåîàä ãàåøééúà âæøå åìà îùåí èåîàä ãøáðï

(d)

Answer #2: When they decreed about Safek Kelim that were found, they decreed due to Safek Tum'ah mid'Oraisa, and not due to Tum'ah mid'Rabanan.

åîéäå éù èåîàä ãøáðï ãáòéà äòøá ùîù

(e)

Observation: There is a Tum'ah that requires Ha'arev Shemesh.

ëãàùëçï áôñçéí áñåó äàùä (ãó öá.) ëì äôåøù îï äòøìä ëôåøù îï ä÷áø ãáòé äæàä ùìéùé åùáéòé åë''ù äòøá ùîù

(f)

Source #1: We find in Pesachim (92a) "anyone who separates from Orlah (becomes circumcised) is like one who separates from a grave." He must receive Haza'ah [with Mei Chatas] on days three and seven, and all the more so Ha'arev Shemesh.

åääéà ãøáé éùîòàì áï ÷îçéú áôø÷ äåöéàå ìå (éåîà ãó îæ.) ùðúæä öéðåøà ãäâîåï òì áâãå (öðåøà ãòøáé) (ö"ì ãòøáé òì áâãå - öàï ÷ãùéí) åðëðñå àçéå åùéîùå úçúéå àò''â ãèåîàú òëå''í ãøáðï áòéà äòøá ùîù

(g)

Source #2: A case occurred with R. Yishmael ben Kimchis (the Kohen Gadol) in Yoma (47a) in which spit of an Aravi splashed on him, and his brother served in place of him. Even though Tum'ah of Nochrim is mid'Rabanan, it requires Ha'arev Shemesh (so he could not serve that day).

åëé ääéà ãçåîø á÷åãù (çâéâä ãó ëâ.) ãùôåôøú ùçúëä ìçèàú ø' éäåùò àåîø éèîà åéèáéì

(h)

Source #3: The case in Chagigah (23a) of a tube cut for [Mei or Efer] Chatas - R. Yehoshua says, he is Metamei it and immerses it (and uses it the same day, to show that Ha'arev Shemesh is not needed).

åôøéê ãçúëä îàï àé ãçúëä çáø ì''ì èáéìä åàé ãçúëä òí äàøõ áäà ðéîà øáé éäåùò éèîà åéèáéì îùîò áäãéà ãèåîàú òí äàøõ áòéà äòøá ùîù

1.

[The Gemara] asks, who cut it? If a Chaver cut it, why does it need Tevilah? If an Am ha'Aretz cut it, would R. Yehoshua say about this "he is Metamei it and he immerses it?" (It is already Tamei!) This explicitly connotes that [elsewhere] Tum'as Am ha'Aretz requires Ha'arev Shemesh. (If not, we would say that an Am ha'Aretz cut it, and he is Metamei it to show that even when Ha'arev Shemesh is normally needed, it is not needed for Parah!)

åääéà ãëäï äùåøó àú äôøä ùäéå àçéå äëäðéí ñåîëéï éãéäï òìéå ëãé ìèîàåúå ìòùåú (ìäëòéñ) (ö"ì äéëøà - ùéèä î÷åáöú, öàï ÷ãùéí) ìöãå÷éí ùäéå àåîøéí áîòåøáé ùîù äéúä ðòùéú

(i)

Source #4: The case of the Kohen who burns Parah Adumah, his fellow Kohanim put their hands on them to be Metamei him, for a Heker (overt disproval) for the Tzedukim, who said that it was done only through people who had Ha'arev Shemesh;

åáâãé àåëìé ÷åãù îãøñ ìçèàú åîùîò ãáòé äòøá ùîù

1.

Garments [even] of people who eat Kodesh are Midras (considered Tamei) for Chatas, and it connotes that [elsewhere, such Tum'ah] requires Ha'arev Shemesh.

2)

TOSFOS DH Eino Cholek b'Basar she'Ne'emar ha'Makriv...

úåñôåú ã"ä àéðå çåì÷ ááùø ùðàîø äî÷øéá...

(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses whether this text can be defended.)

ø''ú ì''â ìéä îùåí ãáâî' (ì÷îï ãó ÷á:) áãéðà ãø''à áø''ù ãøéù ìéä î÷øà àçøéðà îãëúéá äæåø÷ àú ãí äùìîéí

(a)

Correction: R. Tam's text does not say so, because in the Gemara (102b), in the Kal v'Chomer of R. Elazar b'Ribi Shimon, he expounds this from a different verse "ha'Zorek Es Dam ha'Shelamim";

åäàé ÷øà ãî÷øéá àúà ìëäï ùàéðå îåãä áòáåãä ëããøùéðï áçåìéï áô' äæøåò (ãó ÷ìá:) ëãôéøù á÷åðèøñ áâî' ìú''÷ ãàáà ùàåì

1.

This verse "ha'Makriv..." comes for a Kohen who does not admit to Avodah, like we expound in Chulin (132b), like Rashi explained in the Gemara according to the first Tana of Aba Sha'ul.

åîéäå é''ì ãëåìä îéìúà ãøùéðï î÷øà ãäî÷øéá ãîåàú äçìá ãøùéðï ëäï ùàéðå îåãä áòáåãä åäî÷øéá ãøùéðï ùéäà èäåø áùòú æøé÷ä

(b)

Defense (of our text): We can say that we expound everything from the verse ha'Makriv. We expound about a Kohen who does not admit to Avodah from "v'Es ha'Chelev", and we expound ha'Makriv to teach that he must be Tahor at the time of Zerikah;

åùîà äðê úøé ÷øàé öøéëé çã ìæøé÷ä åçã ì÷áìä

1.

Perhaps we need these two verses, one for Zerikah and one for Kabalah;

ãäî÷øéá îùîò ÷áìä ëããøùéðï áô''÷ (ìòéì éâ.) åä÷øéáå æå ÷áìú äãí

i.

Ha'Makriv connotes Kabalah, like we expounded above (13a) "v'Hikrivu" - this is Kabalas ha'Dam.

åîéäå îã÷àîø äúí áçåìéï åáä÷åîõ øáä (îðçåú ãó éç:) [ö"ì îðéï - ùéèä î÷åáöú] ìøáåú ä÷áìåú åääæàåú îùîò ãàëúé ìà éãòéðï ÷áìä

2.

Disclaimer: However, since it says there in Chulin and in Menachos (18b) "what is the source to include Kabalah and Haza'ah?", this connotes that we still do not know Kabalah (we do not learn it from ha'Makriv).

3)

TOSFOS DH v'Harei Katan d'Ein Ra'uy l'Chituy v'Ochel

úåñôåú ã"ä åäøé ÷èï ãàéï øàåé ìçéèåé åàåëì

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why we do not answer that the Torah included a minor.)

åà''ú àîàé ìà îùðé ÷èï øçîðà øáééä ëãîùðé áúø äëé âáé áòì îåí ìáúø ãîñé÷ îàé éàëìðä éçì÷ðä

(a)

Question: Why don't we answer that the Torah included a minor (it is an exception to the Klal "whoever cannot be Mechaper, may not eat"), like it answers afterwards about a Ba'al Mum, after it concludes "what is `he will eat'? He will divide!"? (A Ribuy teaches that a Ba'al Mum divides, unlike the Klal.)

åé''ì ëéåï ã÷èï åáòì îåí (àåëì) (ö"ì àåëìéí - ùéèä î÷åáöú) îàé àúà ÷øà ìàùîåòéðï

(b)

Answer #1: Since a minor and a Ba'al Mum eat, what does [this Klal that we learn from] the verse come to teach?!

àé ðãøåù ùàéðå îçèà àéðå àåëì àé ìîòåèé èáåì éåí åîçåñø ëéôåøéí

1.

Suggestion: We will expound that "one who cannot be Mechaper cannot eat" excludes a Tevul Yom or Mechusar Kipurim.

äà ðô÷à ìï áô' äòøì (éáîåú ãó òã:) î÷øà àçøéðà ãäáéà ëôøúå àåëì á÷ãùéí

2.

Rejection: We learn them from another verse in Yevamos (74b) that one who brought his Kaparah eats Kodshim!

äéìëê ðãøåù àéðå çåì÷

3.

Therefore we expound that ["does not eat" means that] he does not divide.

à''ð àé äåä îùðé øáééä ÷øà úé÷ùé ìéä àëúé îáòì îåí ëãôøéê áñîåê

(c)

Answer #2: Had we answered that the Torah included [a minor], it would still be difficult from a Ba'al Mum (also he cannot be Mechaper, and he eats), like it asks below. (It is better to expound so there is only one exception to the rule - Olas Shlomo.)

4)

TOSFOS DH Hagahah Ra'uy l'Chituy Cholek

úåñôåú ã"ä (ä''â) (ö"ì äâ"ä - ùéèä î÷åáöú) øàåé ìçéèåé çåì÷

(SUMMARY: Tosfos points out that there are exceptions to this rule.)

åúéîä äøé ëä''â àåðï åèîà á÷øáðåú öéáåø ãøàåééï ìçéèåé åàéðí çåì÷éï ëãáñîåê

(a)

Question: A Kohen Gadol Onen, or a Tamei regarding Korbanos Tzibur, they are proper to be Mechaper, but they do not divide, like it says below!

é''ì ãòé÷ø ÷øà àöèøéê ìãéå÷ ùàéðå øàåé ìçéèåé àéðå çåì÷

(b)

Answer: The verse primary is needed for the inference that one who is not proper to be Mechaper does not divide.

5)

TOSFOS DH Hagahah Ha d'Asach Daitei v'Chulei

úåñôåú ã"ä (ä''â) (ö"ì äâ"ä - ùéèä î÷åáöú) äà ãàñç ãòúéä ëå'

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains that Hesech Da'as disqualifies for Kodshim.)

äéñç äãòú ôåñì á÷ãùéí

(a)

Explanation: Hesech Da'as disqualifies for Kodshim.

åäà ãð÷è àåðï

(b)

Implied question: Why did it mention an Onen? (The same applies to anyone who had Hesech Da'as!)

îùåí ãøâéì ìàñåçé ãòúéä ìôé ùàéðå éëåì ìàëåì

(c)

Answer: It is common that he has Hesech Da'as, because he cannot eat.

6)

TOSFOS DH mi'Davar ha'Metameini

úåñôåú ã"ä îãáø äîèîàðé

(SUMMARY: Tosfos discusses what is Tamei for Terumah, but not for Kodesh.)

èåîàä ãàåøééúà ãáòéà äòøá ùîù åìà îãáø äôåñìðé ìàëéìú ÷ãùéí îãøáðï ãìà áòéà äòøá ùîù [ä''â øù''é

(a)

Version #1: [He was careful about something that would be Metamei him] Tum'ah mid'Oraisa, which requires Ha'arev Shemesh, but not from something that disqualifies him mid'Rabanan from eating Kodshim, which does not require Ha'arev Shemesh. This is Rashi's text.

åðøàä ãä''â áàåîø ìà ðùîøúé îãáø äôåñìðé ì÷åãù àáì ðùîøúé îãáø äôåñìðé îúøåîä]

(b)

Version #2: It seems that the text says "the case is, he says 'I was not careful about something that disqualifies me from Kodesh, but I was careful about something that disqualifies me from Terumah.'"

ãàåðï àñåø ìàëåì ÷åãù åìëê ìà ùîø òöîå îãáø äôåñìå ì÷åãù åìà ðúï ìáå ùéäà îåúø ìòøá

1.

An Onen is forbidden to eat Kodesh. Therefore he did not guard himself from something that disqualifies him from Kodesh, and he did not put his mind [to be careful] so he will be permitted at night;

àáì ìúøåîä îåúø àôéìå [áå] áéåí ëãàîøéðï æøåú àîøúé ìê åìà àðéðåú åìëê ùîø òöîå îãáø äôåñìå ìúøåîä

2.

However, he is permitted to Terumah even during the day, like we say [about Terumah] "I (the Torah) forbade Zarus to you, but not Aninus." Therefore he guarded himself from something that disqualifies him to Terumah.

åà''ú îàé ðéäå àåúä èåîàä ã÷àîø ãèîà áä ì÷åãù àáì ìà ìúøåîä ã÷úðé îúðé' ãçâéâä (ãó ë:) öøéëéï èáéìä ì÷åãù àáì ìà ìúøåîä

(c)

Question: What is that Tum'ah that is Tamei for Kodesh, and not for Terumah, that the Mishnah in Chagigah (20b) taught that Tevilah is needed for Kodesh, but not for Terumah?

åîôøù ä''ø çééí ëâåï ãàëì ëëø ùìéùé ùì úøåîä ùâåôå ùðé ì÷ãù àáì ìà ìúøåîä ëãàîø áôø÷ ùðé ãçåìéï (ãó ìâ:)

(d)

Answer #1 (R. Chaim): The case is, he ate a Terumah loaf that was a Shelishi [l'Tum'ah]. His body is a Sheni l'Tum'ah for Kodesh, but not for Terumah, like it says in Chulin (33b). (Olas Shabbos - the Torah forbids eating a Shelishi of Terumah! Rather, the loaf was Chulin Al Taharas Terumah. Even this disqualifies him to eat Terumah until he immerses. Now Tosfos holds that he must immerse before touching Kodesh, but not before touching Chulin.)

åáñîåê ìéëà ìôøåùé äëé âáé (ëìé) [ìáé] òì äñì åìà òì äîâøéôä èîàä ìôñåì ÷åãù åàéðä ôåñìú ôéøåú úøåîä ùáñì ãëëø àéðå ôåñì ëìé

(e)

Implied question: Below we cannot explain so regarding "my mind was on the basket, but not on the rake, [the rake] is Tamei to disqualify Kodesh, but it does not disqualify Terumah Peros in the basket"! [We cannot say so,] for a load does not disqualify a Kli. (What Tum'ah is discussed there?) (This Dibur continues on Amud B.)

99b----------------------------------------99b

åàé îù÷éï ãîèîå ëìé âæéøä' îùåí îù÷ä æá åæáä

1.

Suggestion: It is liquids. They are Metamei a Kli due to a decree due to fluids of a Zav or Zavah.

à''ë àôéìå ìúøåîä ðîé

2.

Rejection: If so [they should be Metamei] even for Terumah!

åàé îù÷éï ùðâòå ìèáåì éåí ãàéðå úçìä (àìà - æáçé àôøéí îåç÷å) ì÷ãù ëãúðï (ôøä î''ç î''æ) ëì äôåñì äúøåîä îèîà îù÷éï ìäéåú úçéìä çåõ îèáåì éåí

3.

Suggestion: It is liquids that a Tevul Yom touched. They are not a Rishon for Kodesh, like a Mishnah (Parah 8:7) teaches "anything that disqualifies Terumah, it is Metamei liquids to be a Rishon, except for a Tevul Yom."

à''ë àôéìå ÷ãù ðîé ìà (îèîà) [ö"ì [ðøàä ùö"ì îèîàå] ø÷ ìôñåì ëãàéúà áîòéìä øéù ô' çèàú äòåó (ãó ç.) åà''ë ìà éèîàå äîâøéôä ìôñåì ÷ãù

4.

Rejection: If so, also for Kodesh [the liquids] are not Metamei, only to disqualify, like it says in Me'ilah (8a). If so, they would not be Metamei the rake to disqualify Kodesh. (Zivchei Efrayim - this is like R. Meir there, who says that a Tevul Yom is like a Sheni for Kodesh. Tosfos assumes that all Tana'im agree with the Mishnah he cited. The liquid he touches is a Shelishi. A Kli receives Tum'ah only from an Av ha'Tum'ah, or mid'Rabanan from a liquid that is a Rishon! Eliyahu Rabah says that Kelim that will contact Kodshim are like Kodshim.)

ãèîàä îùîò ìòùåú ôñåì àçøé ëï îãìà ÷àîø îâøéôä ôñåìä

i.

"Tamei" connotes to make Pasul afterwards, since it does not say "the rake is Pasul."

ãëé [ö"ì äàé âååðà] àîøéðï ô''÷ ãôñçéí (ãó ë.) âáé äáùø èîà ìîàé àé ìîðåú øàùåï åùðé áçéáú ä÷ãù úôùåè ãáòé ø''ì öøéã ùì îðçåú ëå'

ii.

Source: We say like this in Pesachim (20a) regarding "the meat is Tamei - for what? If it is to count (levels of Tum'ah of matters that touch it, i.e.) Rishon and Sheni through Chibas (the dearness of) ha'Kodesh, we should resolve the question of Reish Lakish, if a dry Minchah" [became Tamei, does it make a Sheni, i.e. can it be Metamei other foods? It was not Huchshar through a liquid, only through Chibas ha'Kodesh.]

ìëê ðøàä ìôøù ãîùëçú ìä áîòú ìòú ùáðãä ãàîøéðï ô''÷ ãðãä (ãó å.) ì÷åãù àáì ìà ìúøåîä

(f)

Answer #2: We find [Tum'ah for Kodesh, and not for Terumah] through the 24 hours of Nidah (when she first becomes Nidah, she is retroactively Temei'ah, lest the blood left the Makor earlier). We say in Nidah (6a) that it is for Kodesh, but not for Terumah.

à''ð ááâãé [ö"ì àåëìé - ùéèä î÷åáöú] úøåîä ãîãøñ ì÷åãù

(g)

Answer #3: Garments of people who eat Tum'ah are Midras for Kodesh.

åäà ãàîø (åìà ùîøúéä îãáø äôåñìä) (ö"ì ùîøúéä îãáø äîèîàä - èäøú ä÷åãù) àò''ô ùîèîàä ì÷ãù

(h)

Implied question: Why does he say "I guarded [the rake] from something that is Metamei it?" [The Nidah or garment] made [the rake] Metamei for Kodesh!

ëì ãáø ùàéðå (òåùä ùìéùé åòåùä) (ö"ì òåùä ëìåí - èäøú ä÷åãù) åòåùä àçøé ëï ì÷ãù ÷øé ôåñìä ëîå (ùìéùé) (ö"ì ùðé - èäøú ä÷åãù) ùì çåìéï

(i)

Answer: Anything that does not do anything (to its own kind, e.g. Chulin or Terumah), and later it does so (is Metamei) to Kodesh, is called Pesulah, like a Sheni of Chulin.

7)

TOSFOS DH Hachi Garsinan Hacha Nami b'Achilah Avud Rabanan Mailah

úåñôåú ã"ä ä''â ä''ð áàëéìä òáåã øáðï îòìä

(SUMMARY: Tosfos favors Rashi's Perush.)

ôéøù á÷åðèøñ åäà ãúðï àåðï öøéê èáéìä ààëéìä úðï àáì ðåâò à''ö ìèáåì

(a)

Explanation #1 (Rashi): The Mishnah says that an Onen needs Tevilah in order to eat [Kodshim], but he need not immerse in order to touch.

åäùúà ìà ÷àé ùéðåééà ãøáé éåçðï

(b)

Consequence: Now, R. Yochanan's answer above (99a, that an Onen or Mechusar Kipurim may touch Kodesh only after immersing) is not sustained!

åðøàä ãàôùø ì÷ééîå ãìòåìí îúðé' áùèáì åääéà ãçâéâä áãìà èáì àáì äà ãàîø àåðï ùèáì ãàðéðåúå çåæøú òìéå äééðå áàëéìä

(c)

Explanation #2: One can sustain [his answer]. Really, our Mishnah discusses when he immersed, and in the Mishnah in Chagigah, he did not immerse. This that it says that an Onen who immersed, his Aninus returns to him, this is regarding eating.

åô''ä òé÷ø

(d)

Conclusion: Rashi's Perush is primary.

8)

TOSFOS DH Onen Tovel v'Ochel Pischo la'Erev Aval Lo b'Kodshim

úåñôåú ã"ä àåðï èåáì åàåëì ôñçå ìòøá àáì ìà á÷ãùéí

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains why the text does not say Mechusar Kipurim.)

îùðä äéà áôñçéí áôø÷ äàùä (ãó öà:) åì''â îçåñø ëéôåøéí ãàåðï ãå÷à äåà ãìà àëéì á÷ãùéí ìòøá îùåí àðéðåú ìéìä

(a)

Assertion: This is a Mishnah in Pesachim (91b), and the text does not say Mechusar Kipurim, for only an Onen does not eat Kodshim at night, due to Aninus of the night;

àáì îçåñø ëéôåøéí ëéåï ùäáéà ëôøúå åèáì ìîä ìà éàëì

1.

However, a Mechusar Kipurim, since he brought his Kaparah and immersed, why should he not eat?!

9)

TOSFOS DH Amar Rav Chisda Pesach Kedi Nasbei

úåñôåú ã"ä àîø øá çñãà ôñç ëãé ðñáéä

(SUMMARY: Tosfos explains the conclusion.)

áîñ÷ðà îùðé ëàï ÷åãí ùùçèå åæø÷å òìéå ëàï ìàçø ùùçèå åæø÷å òìéå

(a)

Remark: In the conclusion (100b), we answer "this is [when his relative died] before they did Shechitah and Zerikah for him, and [there] is after they did Shechitah and Zerikah for him";

ãääéà ìà éáéà ôñçå ëùîú ÷åãí ùùçèå åæø÷å òìéå åääéà ãèåáì åàåëì ìòøá ëùîú ìàçø ùùçèå åæø÷å òìéå

1.

The case that he does not bring his Pesach is when he died before they did Shechitah and Zerikah for him. The case when he immerses and eats at night is when he died after they did Shechitah and Zerikah for him.

àáì äðê àîåøàé ìà áòå ìùðåéé äëé îùåí ã÷ñáøé àëéìä ìà îòëáà åëéåï ãìà îòëáà àîàé ãçéà àëéìúä àðéðåú ìéìä ãøáðï èôé îùàø ÷ãùéí

2.

The other Amora'im did not want to answer like this, for they hold that eating [Korban Pesach] is not Me'akev (Pesachim 75b). Since it is not Me'akev, why should eating it override Aninus of the night, which is mid'Rabanan, more than other Kodshim?!

àáì äéëà ãîú ÷åãí ùùçèå àó òì âá ãàëéìä ìà îòëáú àé ìà ùøéú ìàåëìå ìà îééúé

(b)

Distinction: However, when he died before they did Shechitah, [they agree that he may eat at night,] even though eating is not Me'akev, [for] if we do not permit him to eat, he will not bring.

åéù ìúîåä ãîùîò ãùøé ø''ù ìùçåè åìæøå÷ àçø ùîú ìå îú îùåí ãàðéðåú ìéìä ãøáðï

(c)

Question: It connotes that R. Shimon permits to do Shechitah and Zerikah after his relative died, because Aninus of the night is mid'Rabanan;

åäìà àðéðåú éåí ãàåøééúà åãì àëéìä îäëà î''î ä÷øáä áéåí àñåø (áçèàú) (ö"ì ëçèàú - ùéèä î÷åáöú, öàï ÷ãùéí) òåìä åàùí ãàñåø ìäáéà ëùäåà àåðï îãëúéá ÷øáðå ëì ùùîå ÷øáï

1.

Aninus of the day is mid'Oraisa! Ignore eating - in any case offering during the day is forbidden, like for Chatas, Olah and Asham. He may not bring when he is an Onen, since it says "Korbano" - whatever is called Korban! (Perhaps Tosfos mentioned these because we include them even though they are very unlike Shelamim - PF.)

åëé úéîà îùåí ãàúé òùä ãôñç åãçé òùä ãàðéðåú ãëùäåà ùìí îáéà

2.

Suggestion: The Aseh of Pesach overrides the Aseh of Aninus that he may bring [only] when he is complete (not an Onen).

à''ë äéëé ãéé÷ îéðä àðéðåú ìéìä îãøáðï àôéìå äéà ãàåøééúà ãçéà

3.

Rejection: If so, how do we infer that Aninus of the night is mid'Rabanan? Even if it were mid'Oraisa, [Korban Pesach] would override it!

åîúåê ôé' ä÷åðèøñ îùîò ãñáø äùúà ãëåìä àñîëúà áòìîà

(d)

Answer #1: Rashi connotes that [the Gemara] holds now that it is all a mere Asmachta. (The Isur for an Onen to offer any Korban is only mid'Rabanan.)

åðøàä ìôøù ëéåï ãòé÷ø ôñç ìà áà àìà ìàëéìä ëãúðï (ôñçéí ãó òå:) ôñç äáà áèåîàä ðàëì áèåîàä ùòé÷øå ìà áà àìà ìàëéìä

(e)

Answer #2: It seems that primarily, Pesach comes only to be eaten, like the Mishnah (Pesachim 76b) says that Pesach brought in Tum'ah is eaten in Tum'ah, for primarily it comes only to be eaten. (If we would not eat it b'Tum'ah, we would not bring it);

äìëê ìà çééùéðï áéä ìàðéðåú áæîï ä÷øáä àìà áæîï àëéìä åàó òì âá ãàëéìä ìà îòëáú:

1.

Therefore, we are not concerned for Aninus at the time of offering, rather, at the time of eating, even though eating is not Me'akev. (For other Korbanos, Hakravah is primary, so the Torah forbids an Onen to offer them.)

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