1)

(a)Discussing the differences between the Tana'im in our Mishnah and those in the Beraisa, Resh Lakish says Minchah ha'Ba'ah bi'Fenei Atzmah, le'Divrei Kulan Lo Teired. Kulan refers to - Rabban Gamliel, Rebbi Yehoshua and Rebbi Shimon.

(b)Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili and Rebbi Akiva hold - Teired.

(c)We have already discussed Minchah ha'Ba'ah Im ha'Zevach, where Rabban Gamliel and Rebbi Yehoshua both agree Lo Teired. When Resh Lakish says le'Divrei Kulan Teired, he is therefore referring to - Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, Rebbi Akiva and Rebbi Shimon.

2)

(a)According to Resh Lakish, in a case of Nesachim ha'Ba'im bi'Fenei Atzman, Rabban Gamliel and Rebbi Shimon rule Lo Yerdu - because Nesachim go on the Mizbe'ach and because they are independent, respectively.

(b)Kulan say - Yerdu.

(c)With regard to Nesachim ha'Ba'im Im ha'Zevach, the opinion of ...

1. ... Kulan is - Im Alu, Yerdu.

2. ... Rabban Gamliel is - Lo Yerdu.

3)

(a)Given each Tana's source, all the above are obvious, and Resh Lakish is coming to teach us the Chidush of Rava that - anyone may volunteer to bring an independent Minchas Nesachim, which is entirely burnt.

(b)The problem with Resh Lakish's lengthy statement is - why (bearing in mind that he lived long before Rava) he did not just teach us Rava's ruling.

(c)We learn from the Pasuk in Pinchas "Minchasam ve'Niskeihem" that - one may bring the Minchas Nesachim of a Korban at night or on the following day.

(d)Consequently, Resh Lakish found it necessary to include the other cases, to teach us that, in the case of Nesachim ha'Ba'ah Im ha'Zevach, even though one is permitted to bring the Nesech independently of the Korban, it is still considered secondary to it (and according to Rebbi Shimon, Im Alah, Yeired).

4)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that Lan, Yotzei, Tamei, and Nishchat Chutz li'Zemano ve'Chutz li'Mekomo - Im Alu, Lo Yerdu.

(b)Lan refers - both to the Dam and to the Emurim.

(c)The other two cases the Tana includes in his list are - Kiblu Pesulim ve'Zarku es Daman.

5)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah rules that Nishchat ba'Laylah, Nishpach Damah and Yatza Damah Chutz li'Kela'im' - Im Alu, Yerdu.

(b)Rebbi Shimon agrees with the Tana Kama. According to him, whatever is Pesulo ba'Kodesh' - if the P'sul took place after the animal entered the Azarah is included in Lo Yerdu (see Shitah Mekubetzes).

(c)He maintains that Rove'a, Nirva, Muktzah, Ne'evad ... and Ba'alei Mumin - are included in the list of Kodshim that are not Pesulan ba'Kodesh.

6)

(a)Rebbi Akiva disagrees - with Ba'alei Mumin (as we will explain in the Sugya).

(b)Rebbi Chanina S'gan ha'Kohanim - concurs with Rebbi Shimon regarding Ba'alei Mumin.

(c)The Tana rules that if those P'sulin that Im Alu, Lo Yerdu ...

1. ... were inadvertently taken down - Lo Ya'alu (they stay down).

2. ... ascended to the top of the Mizbe'ach whilst they were still alive - must be brought down.

3. ... were Shechted on top of the Mizbe'ach - they must be skinned, and cut into pieces there.

(d)Rebbi Yehudah learns from the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos ... Hi ha'Olah" - (incorporating three Mi'utin [since the Hey of ha'Olah also comes to exclude]) that Nishchatah ba'Laylah, Nishpach Damah and Yatza Damah ... Im Alu, Yerdu.

7)

(a)Based on "Toras ha'Olah" (in the same Pasuk) - Rebbi Shimon ...

1. ... incorporates Rebbi Yehudah's three cases in the list of Im Alu, Lo Yerdu, as he does...

2. ... ha'Nitnin Lematah she'Nasnan Lema'alah, and vice-versa; ha'Nitnin ba'Chutz she'Nasnan bi'Fenim, and vice-versa and Pesach ve'Chatas she'Shachtan she'Lo li'Sheman.

(b)Whereas from "Zos" (in the same Pasuk) - he learns the list of Im Alu, Yerdu in our Mishnah.

(c)He includes those in the first list, and excludes those in the second - on the basis of the S'vara that the former fall into the category of Pesulan ba'Kodesh, whereas the latter do not.

8)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah holds Lan be'Dam, Kasher', because Lan be'Emurin is Kasher, and 'Lan be'Emurin is Kasher' - because Lan be'Basar is Kasher.

(b)When Rebbi Yehudah says Lan be'Basar, Kasher, he is referring to - Basar Shelamim, which can be eaten for two days and the night in between.

(c)And he says Lo Yerdu in the case of ...

1. ... Yotzei - because Yotzei is Kasher by a Bamah.

2. ... Tamei" - because Tamei is Kasher by a Tzibur.

3. ... Chutz li'Zemano - because it brings Pigul into effect.

4. ... Chutz li'Mekomo - because it is compared to Chutz li'Zemano.

9)

(a)When Rebbi Yehudah declares Yotzei, Kasher, he is referring to - the limbs of an Olah and the Emurin of other Kodshim.

(b)We know that he is not referring to Dam - because it is one of the three things that he renders Pasul from "Zos ... hi ha'Olah".

(c)He prefers to invalidate the Emurei Kodshim rather than Nishchat Chutz li'Zemano - because the latter causes Pigul to take effect, as we just explained.

10)

(a)We object to learning Lan be'Emurim from Lan be'Basar, and Yotzei de'Mikdash from Yotzei de'Bamah - because one cannot learn something which is Pasul from something which is Kasher Lechatchilah.

(b)We answer that the above D'rashos are indeed insufficient on their own - and that we therefore rely on the Pasuk "Zos Toras ha'Olah" (which indicates that whatever goes on the Mizbe'ach, is not taken down), before applying them.