Question (Rebbi Mana): What was your source for saying that Rebbi Meir holds that one burns even a Rabbinic Teluyah?

Answer (Beraisa): One is Toleh items that entered the home of a gentile. Rebbi Yosi bei Rebbi Yehudah says that one burns them.

(Rebbi Chuna quoting Rebbi Zeira): Rebbi Meir holds that one burns Teluyah the entire year (not just on Erev Pesach).

Question (Beraisa): Rebbi Meir says that Terumah Teluyah and temeyah are burned on Friday afternoon close to nightfall. The Chachamim say that it is destroyed at its correct time.

Conclusion of question: If you are correct that Rebbi Meir holds that one burns Teluyah the entire year, why should he not burn it in the morning? (Why wait until nightfall to burn it?)

Answer #1: The case here is that he was lazy and he did not burn it earlier.

Proof: The Beraisa there is also discussing Terumah temeyah (which certainly could be burned earlier) and it still says that they are burned on Friday afternoon. This proves that the cases must be when the person was lazy.

Rejection (Aba Mari): One cannot prove anything from here since it became (safek) Tamei close to nightfall (and was not yet Tamei in the morning).

(Rebbi Yochanan): Rebbi Shimon and Rebbi Yehoshua have the same opinion.

Rejection (Rebbi Ila): [Rebbi Yochanan is referring to] Rebbi Shimon in Bechoros (A Bechor (firstborn) that was taken by a blood congestion, Rebbi Shimon permits letting its blood. Since it will anyway not survive without it, the owner may perform this procedure even though it will certainly cause a blemish (which is usually) prohibited to make.) and Rebbi Yehoshua in Terumos (see earlier 17-1(a) 2. - he allows exposing the Terumah since it will anyway be going to waste). However, they do not agree with each other - Rebbi Yehoshua only permitted indirectly causing it to become Tamei and Rebbi Shimon permitted actively letting the blood. Rebbi Shimon permits letting the blood since it will certainly die but he would not permit allowing the Terumah to become Tamei as perhaps Eliyahu the Prophet will come and pronounce it pure.

Objection (Rebbi Zeira): It is logical that Rebbi Shimon would agree to Rebbi Yehoshua. (If Rebbi Shimon permitted actively making a blemish in the Bechor, he would certainly allow passively causing the Terumah Teluyah to become Tamei.)

Question (Rebbi Bun bar Chiya to Rebbi Zeira): According to you that Rebbi Shimon would agree to Rebbi Yehoshua (and vice-versa), why does the Beraisa (authored by Rebbi Shimon) say, "(But how could Teluyah be burned with temeyah?) Rebbi Eliezer agrees to Rebbi Yehoshua that they are burned separately''. Surely they can be burned together (if Rebbi Shimon permits blemishing the Bechor)?

Answer: On a Torah level it is tehorah, since at the 6th hour the Torah still permits eating it. It is just a Rabbinic decree that it must be destroyed as if it is Tamei. Therefore, it is not comparable to a Bechor.

Question: Nevertheless, the Terumah at the 6th hour should be Tamei since he removed his attention from guarding it, as Rebbi Yochanan said that removing one's attention from guarding Terumah causes it to have a Torah pasul..?!

Conclusion of question: Just as in the case of the Bechor taken with blood congestion, according to Rebbi Shimon, the Torah permits blemishing it since it will anyway be going to waste; and similarly in the case of the second barrel, according to Rebbi Meir, the Torah permitted actively being Metamei it since it will anyway be going to waste; [so too Terumah in the 6th hour should be permitted to burn since the Torah has made it pasul when he removed his attention from it]?!

Answer: It did not become pasul, since his attention remained with it in order that it not touch and be Metamei other taharos.

Question (Rebbi Yitzchak): It is resting on the coals and does not need to be guarded (so why is it prohibited to increase its tumah and burn them together?!)

Answer: When it will be put there, it will be permitted (but before that is prohibited) (Note: This follows the understanding of Rav Chaim Kanievsky).

Question (Rebbi Mana to Rebbi Simi): You say that Rebbi Shimon agrees to Rebbi Yehoshua (and vice-versa). Even Rebbi Yehoshua does not agree to himself! (In the first case of the barrel, Rebbi Yehoshua said that one may not burn Teluyah in order not to waste it; but here (which is referring to Teluyah throughout the year), Rebbi Yehoshua said that they are both burned together?!)

Answer: There is a dispute as to the opinion of Rebbi Yehoshua. The case here (that states that both are burned together) is Rebbi Shimon's understanding of Rebbi Yehoshua. The case in Terumos is Rebbi Meir's understanding of Rebbi Yehoshua (that since in the first case of the barrel it will not be going to waste, one may not burn it.)